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post #301 of 3025
Your previous post suggested that Peace is automatically a better writer than Abbott because he is, to paraphrase, from the streets, that he is automatically better because he's lived the things he's writing about, rather than making them up or studying them.

I would argue that it's harder to convincingly write a character with whom you don't have a lot in common, and that Abbott has done so pretty damn well so far. One of the reasons Song is You is better than Queenpin in my humble is because it's very easy to see Abbott as the narrator of the novel, whereas Song is You is a character whom she has zero in common with -- and it's a brilliant character to boot. Song is You also is very, very period specific in a lot of ways that I admire, and the specificity, the familiarity, of a novel that takes place in the film industry in the 40s, albiet a one with fake characters alongside real ones, is something that I think make Abbott's creds as a professor and scholar worthwhile.

So it's a weird tack for you to take, and an unfair one. But let it be said that some of my favorite crime books, ones I have raved about in these very forums, come from that same place of writing what you know, being it old folks in Boca or porn stars on a roaring rampage of revenge.

I'm not bashing Peace. I think the guy's very good. I wish Red Riding 1983 would come out already. I just think that it's unfair to say his writing's automatically better because he lived it.
post #302 of 3025
Sorry, Rath, I didn't make myself clear. I'd take Peace without hesitation, absolutely. But really, it doesn't mean he's a better writer than Abbott, or anyone else for that matter. In terms of crime fiction, I might actually take Kent Anderson over Peace. On some intrinsic level, I strongly relate to the fierce qualities of Peace's writing, from his style and the idiosyncrasies of his writing to the subject matter he chooses (or chooses him). But ultimately, it’s taster’s choice.

I've reached a point of diminishing returns in arguing the merits of Peace’s writing, but among the writers I love, I notice there is a recurring theme of their life experience, to various degrees, impacting their work. Peace, Ellroy, Conrad, Willeford, Tolkien, Pynchon, Hemingway, Faulkner, Vonnegut. Talking other crime guys, Don Winslow, Chester Himes, Jim Thompson, Joe Gores, Hammett, Mosley, Block...It's not a hard-and-fast rule, there are ex-cops and crooks who can't write for shit and there is no substitute for talent, but when you have that synthesis of life experience and ability, I don't think you can match it.
post #303 of 3025
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I've reached a point of diminishing returns in arguing the merits of Peace’s writing, but among the writers I love, I notice there is a recurring theme of their life experience, to various degrees, impacting their work. Peace, Ellroy, Conrad, Willeford, Tolkien, Pynchon, Hemingway, Faulkner, Vonnegut. Talking other crime guys, Don Winslow, Chester Himes, Jim Thompson, Joe Gores, Hammett, Mosley, Block...It's not a hard-and-fast rule, there are ex-cops and crooks who can't write for shit and there is no substitute for talent, but when you have that synthesis of life experience and ability, I don't think you can match it.
Personally, I'd add Andrew Vachss to that list. He has certainly seen and lived with the subject matter that he writes about.
post #304 of 3025
Absolutely. And Vachss has always spoken with a pretty unique voice. I read Vachss before I read Westlake, I remember reading Blue Belle on its release back when I was 13 maybe, and I remember being pretty shocked at reading a modern protagonist in crime fiction who had no problem killing cops, who was completely on the other side of society. Vachss' style became more mainstream after his first several novels, but always piercing criticism.
post #305 of 3025
I picked up 'The Song is You' by Megan Abbott, it's gooing to be tough not to compare this to Ellroy's Black Dahlia seeing as they're both based on the same true crime.
post #306 of 3025
No, they're not. Jean Spangler actually disappeared in 1949.
post #307 of 3025
That's weird, on the back it says the book was based on the true story of 'daughter of black dahlia' case, I didn't realize there were two separate cases.
post #308 of 3025
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Sorry, Subotai, but Megan Abbott, not your boy David Peace, is the real heir to James Ellroy. Queenpin will kick your ass and does a lot of interesting things with the tropes of the genre. If I had to describe it, I would say it's' part Casino, part the Cooler, but starring Peggy from Mad Men. (I actually had a hard time not seeing Elisabeth Moss as the narrator.) Abbott, being a professor of literature/crime fiction, gets how wrapped up sex and violence are when it comes to these types of books, and she does the psychological aspects of those as well as anyone since the Demon Dog.
I'll have to disagree with this. Having just read Queenpin I found it pretty underwhelming and with it's short length lacking quite a bit of depth. I like a lot of the concepts but there wasn't really enough meat to it.
post #309 of 3025
Queenpin is probably her lightest. Read her other stuff. There's still plenty of interesting things in Queenpin, especially the perspective and the way she chooses to tell her story. It's basically a straight up noir thriller, except it's from the woman in over her head, rather than the man.
post #310 of 3025
I finished 'The Song is You' last night, it's a very solid novel, definitely Abbott's best so far. Abbott has definitely shown she has a complete understanding of the fifties era, her descriptions are vivid. The hollywood underbelly has been explored pretty thoroughly but Ms. Abbott's is definitely a strong entry.
post #311 of 3025
Yeah, like I said, Queenpin is a very solid thriller IMO, but it's hurt by the fact that Abbott wrote a short story covering similar ground as the first 100 so pages (like, exact) in the you-should-buy-it-now collection "A Hell of A Woman." She's also got a new story in the crime collection that just came out about cheerleaders.

I'm reading Bob Sloan's The Middle of Nowhere, the third in the Lenny Bliss series, right now. I picked it up thinking "Oh, cop investigates rich kids on the Upper East Side. This'll be light and fun." Wrong. This book is pretty goddamn beautifully written and also fucking depressing. There are some passages, including a date rape scene, that are terribly heartbreaking to read. The last crime book I've read that's affected me this much was Cook's The Chatham School Affair, and that was when I was in high school.

Cameron and I were talking about what the best Crime Novels of the decade would be. I forget what all was on his list, but even though it came out this year and this has been a fantastic year, a fantastic decade, for this stuff, mine would have to be Money Shot. I've read it twice already this year. That book is like a rocket to your gut and a candle under your ass and all kinds of other forced metaphors. It's the Blood and Bone of pulp thrillers, shockingly smart, self-aware, and funny. And, of course, it's well-written, feels authentic, and has an amazing narrator/lead character. I can't say enough about it. It is my very favorite book.

That being said, the fantastic Dawn Patrol by our beloved Don Winslow would be a very, very, very close second.
post #312 of 3025
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Yeah, like I said, Queenpin is a very solid thriller IMO, but it's hurt by the fact that Abbott wrote a short story covering similar ground as the first 100 so pages (like, exact) in the you-should-buy-it-now collection "A Hell of A Woman." She's also got a new story in the crime collection that just came out about cheerleaders.

I'm reading Bob Sloan's The Middle of Nowhere, the third in the Lenny Bliss series, right now. I picked it up thinking "Oh, cop investigates rich kids on the Upper East Side. This'll be light and fun." Wrong. This book is pretty goddamn beautifully written and also fucking depressing. There are some passages, including a date rape scene, that are terribly heartbreaking to read. The last crime book I've read that's affected me this much was Cook's The Chatham School Affair, and that was when I was in high school.

Cameron and I were talking about what the best Crime Novels of the decade would be. I forget what all was on his list, but even though it came out this year and this has been a fantastic year, a fantastic decade, for this stuff, mine would have to be Money Shot. I've read it twice already this year. That book is like a rocket to your gut and a candle under your ass and all kinds of other forced metaphors. It's the Blood and Bone of pulp thrillers, shockingly smart, self-aware, and funny. And, of course, it's well-written, feels authentic, and has an amazing narrator/lead character. I can't say enough about it. It is my very favorite book.

That being said, the fantastic Dawn Patrol by our beloved Don Winslow would be a very, very, very close second.
Money Shot? Really? Its great, but hardly the best of the decade. Maybe ONE of the best.

You know my choice for book of the decade. Power of The Dog, though a case could be made that The Dawn Patrol is the best P.I. novel of the decade.

It's not out until March, but David Corbett's Do They Know I'm Running is my favorite book of 2010 so far. I will be fucking pleased if there's a better book. Its about an 18 year old Mexican kid that has to go to Mexico to give some money to some people to get his uncle and an arab across the border. Things go..badly and he has to do it himself.

Crime fiction in general is too hard, so I'll just do my 12 favorite thrillers.

What I have right now

Lost Echoes by Joe R. Lansdale

Bury Me Deep by Megan Abbot

Power of the Dog/Frankie Machine/Dawn Patrol(Can't figure out which to choose, all have their merits for being on the list)

Mad Dogs by James Grady

The Android's Dream by John Scalzi(Imagine Hiassen or Ross Thomas doing an episode of Futurama)

Head Games by Craig McDonald

The Faithful Spy by Alex Berenson

Hard Man by Allan Guthrie

Do They Know I'm Running?(Not out yet, but I will be very happy if there's a better novel in 2010.)

Hollywood Station by Joseph Wambaugh(Gotta have Wambaugh's return to fiction...)

Altered Carbon by Richard K. Morgan

Money Shot by Christa Faust(What a nice surprise, considering her earlier novels weren't that good)

The Tin-Roof Blowdown by James Lee Burke.

The 90's are so much easier.

The Concrete Blonde by Michael Connelly
Everybody Dies by Lawrence Block
Gone, Baby, Gone by Dennis Lehane
Stone City by Mitchell Smith
The Death and Life of Bobby Z by Don Winslow
Drowned Hopes by Donald E. Westlake
Mucho Mojo/Freezer Burn by Joe R. Lansdale
Rum Punch by Elmore Leonard
King Suckerman by George Pelecanos
post #313 of 3025
Frankie Machine's pretty fucking good. I'm trying to plow through it and The Time Traveler's Wife right now so that I can get them off my plate, and while I REALLY REALLY REALLY like TTW, Frankie Machine's so much more fun.
post #314 of 3025
Frankie Machine really is the coda to the trilogy of American mob myth that started with Godfather, continued with Goodfellas, and ended with Sopranos. In a lot of ways.
post #315 of 3025
I read Frankie Machine a few months back and it was good, but stacked up against Power of the Dog or California Fire and Life...no contest. Then again PotD towers over anything that I've read since.
post #316 of 3025
I can't wait to read Power of the Dog. It's next on my holds list, I believe.
post #317 of 3025
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I read Frankie Machine a few months back and it was good, but stacked up against Power of the Dog or California Fire and Life...no contest. Then again PotD towers over anything that I've read since.
I'm so happy my massive hyping of Dog hasn't ruined it for anyone.
post #318 of 3025
If I had to choose a crime book of the decade it would be George Pelecanos Hell to Pay.
post #319 of 3025
The Ragged Edge of Nowhere.

Cameron told me I should read this. Now I say you should read it.
post #320 of 3025
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The Ragged Edge of Nowhere.

Cameron told me I should read this. Now I say you should read it.
Toldja.

I wasn't wild about the flashbacks, but solid book.
post #321 of 3025
I picked up L.A. Rex in hardback for 5 or 6 bucks today at Barns&Noble. Was interested in it since the screenplay by the author made the Blacklist this week.
post #322 of 3025
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I picked up L.A. Rex in hardback for 5 or 6 bucks today at Barns&Noble. Was interested in it since the screenplay by the author made the Blacklist this week.
Just curious, but have you read any Joseph Wambaugh? L.A. Rex is great, but Wambaugh's best stuff wipes the floor with it. The Choirboys is the best beat cop novel ever written. L.A. Rex is very much inspired by Wambaugh, particularly The New Centurions.
post #323 of 3025
I reeeeeeally liked L.A. Rex, so I'll check out Wambaugh. Should I start with The New Centurions?
post #324 of 3025
I haven't. I literally picked this up because it was there for cheap and the Black List. I might pick them up after this one if they are that good.
post #325 of 3025
I'd say The Choirboys is a better place to start than The New Centurions, since Wambaugh had really hit his stride by that point. Not to say The New Centurions is bad, but The Choirboys is such a great book.
I'd also recommend picking up The Onion Field, his non-fiction book about the murder of a police officer and the aftermath, afterward. Both books were re-released not too long ago in trade paperback with introductions from James Ellroy and are well worth seeking out.

I have a few days off coming up, so I picked up a few books to go through in my holiday spare time. I have The Thief Who Couldn't Sleep and The Sins of the Father by Lawrence Block, and The Black Echo by Michael Connelly. I've never read anything from Block, so I'm fairly excited about those two.
post #326 of 3025
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I reeeeeeally liked L.A. Rex, so I'll check out Wambaugh. Should I start with The New Centurions?
Wambaugh almost literally created the realistic cop novel with The New Centurions, but it doesn't really matter where you start. I like The Choirboys best, but there's a very nice and important cameo in The Choirboys by a character from The New Centurions.

Ed McBain created the defining long-term police series, but it was never totally in the real world, and that's why Wambaugh is a legend. The Wire and The Shield owe a shit-load to Wambaugh. NBC's Southland is The New Centurions all but in name, but without the intelligence or humor. There would be no Ellroy, Michael Connelly or Will Beall without him.

And yes, you will be offended by his writing, that's the point, that's how cops talk when together.
post #327 of 3025
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I'd say The Choirboys is a better place to start than The New Centurions, since Wambaugh had really hit his stride by that point. Not to say The New Centurions is bad, but The Choirboys is such a great book.
I'd also recommend picking up The Onion Field, his non-fiction book about the murder of a police officer and the aftermath, afterward. Both books were re-released not too long ago in trade paperback with introductions from James Ellroy and are well worth seeking out.

I have a few days off coming up, so I picked up a few books to go through in my holiday spare time. I have The Thief Who Couldn't Sleep and The Sins of the Father by Lawrence Block, and The Black Echo by Michael Connelly. I've never read anything from Block, so I'm fairly excited about those two.
Block's Scudder was a very good realistic P.I. series, but he changed the game(for every writer to come since) with 8 Million Ways To Die. You're made of stone if you don't cry at the end of Eight Million. My dad went into AA last year, and his realization that he couldn't control his drinking, even when he went cold turkey, was a lot like Scudder's.
post #328 of 3025
I find the ending to A Stab in the Dark just as moving as 8 Million Ways to Die - Scudder's there but just can't make it. In any case, Balder's in for a treat.

The crime world does owe much to Wambaugh; his best work, unsurprisingly, was his early work. His recent books about Hollywood Division haven't done much for me. But I think The Wire and the Shield owe as much to folks like Chester Himes and Edward Bunker. Hill Street Blues and NYPD Blue are much more Wambaugh-esque. Wambaugh did what he did very well but he mostly walked only one side of the street.

Reading Lono Waiwaiole's Dark Paradise. This guy has the goods. Also Charles Willeford's Writing and Other Blood Sports. They don't make 'em like him any more.

Hope your old man's doing OK, Cameron.
post #329 of 3025
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I find the ending to A Stab in the Dark just as moving as 8 Million Ways to Die - Scudder's there but just can't make it. In any case, Balder's in for a treat.

The crime world does owe much to Wambaugh; his best work, unsurprisingly, was his early work. His recent books about Hollywood Division haven't done much for me. But I think The Wire and the Shield owe as much to folks like Chester Himes and Edward Bunker. Hill Street Blues and NYPD Blue are much more Wambaugh-esque. Wambaugh did what he did very well but he mostly walked only one side of the street.

Reading Lono Waiwaiole's Dark Paradise. This guy has the goods. Also Charles Willeford's Writing and Other Blood Sports. They don't make 'em like him any more.

Hope your old man's doing OK, Cameron.
What's funny is that I've seen recent complaints that Wambaugh's new books are too mean and offensive. It's like, the fuck? Where have you been, guys? Being offensive is Wambaugh's thing and there are few better at it. Hollywood Station was a great comeback. Crows wasn't as good, but Moon was better than it. Wambaugh was limited in what he wrote about, but he's the master at that particular part of the world.

Hill Street Blues owed more to McBain than Wambaugh. NYPD Blue was very much a Wambaugh show. Southland and The Unusuals should have written Wambaugh royalty checks. I'd kill for a TV series of The Choirboys on HBO or Showtime.

Chester Himes is an odd case. I'd never downplay his influence, and its sad that he seems more forgotten than not, but he was more important for being a black writer talking about black issues. Walter Mosley, Gary Phillips(The Ivan Monk series is wonderful. )and other black writers owe the man a lot.

Dark Paradise is great.
post #330 of 3025
HOLY SHIT the first five pages of Power of the Dog.

post #331 of 3025
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HOLY SHIT the first five pages of Power of the Dog.

It gets much much worse.

Seriously, best book of the decade. Blows everything else away.
post #332 of 3025
"Salvation Boulevard," about a Born Again Christian detective investigating the murder of an athiest by a Muslim, gets the Rath seal of approval. It's one of those books (like Money Shot) that leaves you wanting more books with the character, even if you're like "Well, where do they go?" It gets the world it's set in exactly right, and never stoops to be condescending.

I'm also a big fan of the two Mickey Haller books by Michael Connelly, "The Lincoln Lawyer" and "The Brass Verdict", both of which I read recently. I favor the first a bit more, but they're both great reads.
post #333 of 3025
Speaking of Connelly, just finished Nine Dragons. I like Connelly, but the hypothesis of anyone, even an elite detective, going to Hong Kong (for the first time!), locating and rescuing his kidnapped daughter in 48 hours is pretty hard to take. It would take a year just to explore the Chungking Mansions, for chrissake.

Also reading a couple of Michael A. Black's crime novels. Not the greatest prose stylist but he's got a rough edge and while he respects his fellow cops, he doesn't shine their shoes. Reminiscent of Wayne Dundee or those midwestern crime novelists of the late 80s.
post #334 of 3025
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"Salvation Boulevard," about a Born Again Christian detective investigating the murder of an athiest by a Muslim, gets the Rath seal of approval. It's one of those books (like Money Shot) that leaves you wanting more books with the character, even if you're like "Well, where do they go?" It gets the world it's set in exactly right, and never stoops to be condescending.
lol wtf seriously? I'll check it out.

Power of the Dog - still great.
post #335 of 3025
Rath: I'll grab that 'Salvation Blvd'. Anything that compares favorably to 'Money Shot' is definitely worth a look.

It sounds like I need to grab 'Power of the Dog' as well.

Currently, I'm in the middle of doing a full re-read of the entire Burke collection from Andrew Vachss. It's interesting to go back to those first books in the series and see just how much the characters change over the years. I must admit, I miss these BURKE AS HIJACKER/DETECTIVE novels; they are much more interesting than the later novels that kinda got into a rut of sameness.
post #336 of 3025
Money Shot and Salvation Boulevard are both examples of this pet theory of mine about how story matters little in crime fiction, especially modern crime fiction, and location, character, and style matter more. If you have an interesting style, you can do a familiar location or character, and you can rotate any of those three around. But I dig the novels I read that take a world that I know a little about, and fully explore it, like the porn industry in Money Shot or evangelical churches in Salvation. (And for the record, Salvation is not a "Christian novel" from one of those publishers.)
post #337 of 3025
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Received Barry Eisler's new book Inside Out today, with a nice note from him. Its about how dozens of CIA torture video's mysteriously vanish and special ops man Ben Treven is tasked to find them. Then a lot of people get in the way and Treven realizes the rabbit hole goes really deep. Its a paranoid suspense novel more than a thriller, much like James Grady's Six Days of the Condor(Or the movie 3 Days. )

It's like Steve Alten's Shell Game or anything by Vince Flynn, but not retarded or a blow-job to the Bush administration..
post #338 of 3025
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It sounds like I need to grab 'Power of the Dog' as well.
Do yourself a favour. It's the best crime book I've read in years.

Just finished Winslow's 'The Gentlemen's Hour', his sequel to 'Dawn Patrol'. So so good. Liked it quite a bit more than Dawn, actually.
post #339 of 3025
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Do yourself a favour. It's the best crime book I've read in years.

Just finished Winslow's 'The Gentlemen's Hour', his sequel to 'Dawn Patrol'. So so good. Liked it quite a bit more than Dawn, actually.
The Gentleman's Hour is San Diego's answer to Chinatown. You can't make a difference or change the world, you can only try to make things better and clean up your part of the world. I'm eager for the next one considering Boone is considerably worse off. For every person that will go to prison because of Boone's investigation, a dozen others will get off and continue to prosper.

And Corey Blasingame never ever learns his lesson.
post #340 of 3025
Just remember folks, for most people The Gentleman's Hour won't be available for a while. Winslow's getting a bit of a following here, so might be a good idea to be careful with the spoilers.
post #341 of 3025
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January Magazine's Best Crime Novels of 2009 in two parts. Some really great books here.

http://januarymagazine.com/2009/12/b...on-part-i.html

http://januarymagazine.com/2009/12/b...tion-part.html
post #342 of 3025
Solid write-ups there, Cameron. Did you check out Tafoya's Dope Thief? I'm kinda intrigued after reading that summary.

EDIT: And totally agreed about The Mystic Arts of Erasing All Signs of Death. I hated Webb at first, but he grew on me like crazy.
post #343 of 3025
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Solid write-ups there, Cameron. Did you check out Tafoya's Dope Thief? I'm kinda intrigued after reading that summary.

EDIT: And totally agreed about The Mystic Arts of Erasing All Signs of Death. I hated Webb at first, but he grew on me like crazy.
Dope Thief is really good. Looking forward to Tafoya's next.

I actually almost forgot to put Westlake's Get Real in there. Glad I came to my senses.

And like I said, I won't be surprised if Mystic Arts becomes a TV show.
post #344 of 3025
"California Fire and Life," an early Don Winslow (or as I'm told, the first of the very good to great Winslow novels) is pretty good. It's not as good as Dawn Patrol or Frankie Machine, but boy, it sings. There's an edge to it like steel guitar wire.
post #345 of 3025
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"California Fire and Life," an early Don Winslow (or as I'm told, the first of the very good to great Winslow novels) is pretty good. It's not as good as Dawn Patrol or Frankie Machine, but boy, it sings. There's an edge to it like steel guitar wire.
Now go read Dog!
post #346 of 3025
Ken Bruen's "London Boulevard" is basically "Imagine if Sunset Boulevard's Gloria Swanson were a stage actress, and WIlliam Holden were an ex-con in London." That's it. There are some twists and turns, and it's Ken Bruen, so he's really entertaining to read, and I love what he does with style, but the story is pretty lacking. The novelty of seeing the Holden and Von Stroheim analogues go where he takes them is worth the read though, and you could bang this out in an afternoon. It just depends on whether or not you'll get tired of the constant shout-outs to Bruen's crime fiction homies.
post #347 of 3025
It's not fiction, but I'm currently reading a book I highly recommend to fans of Ellroy (or Chandler, or Chinatown, or Harry Bosch, or any L.A.-set crime story): L.A. Noir: The Struggle for the Soul of America's Most Seductive City , by John Buntin.

It's a nonfiction account of the history of crime and policing in L.A. from the 30's to the 60's, using as a framework the contrasting careers of gangster Mickey Cohen and legendary L.A. police chief William Parker, and the growth of the LAPD. It's all here: Prohibition, the Red Scare, Watts, with appearances by celebrated figures from Bugsy Siegel to Betty Grable.

As I near the end, I think there's less weight to the alternating stories than the author does, but it's still fascinating background reading for the setting of so much great crime fiction.
post #348 of 3025
I'd read quite a few of Don Winslow's novels (Fire and Life, Bobby Z, Frankie, Dawn Patrol) and I had been sitting on Power of the Dog for awhile (I'd had the advance reader copy since '05, the joys of working at a bookstore) and after reading all the recommendations decided to read it.
It occupies a weird space for me in that it might be his best but it's certainly not my favorite by him. Just a brutal, brutal book and not in a Jim Thompson way but in a this-is-only-a-slightly-fictional-account-of-what-really-happened way. I've read numerous articles about the 'War on Drugs' and in particular the brutality it's inflicted on the Mexican people. The amount of bodies that are disposed of in hideous ways becomes numbing over time. That's the point I guess but... definitely not an easy read. For whatever reason I actually found 'Blood Meridian' less disturbing. Maybe because it's a period piece and the archaic language.
post #349 of 3025
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I'd read quite a few of Don Winslow's novels (Fire and Life, Bobby Z, Frankie, Dawn Patrol) and I had been sitting on Power of the Dog for awhile (I'd had the advance reader copy since '05, the joys of working at a bookstore) and after reading all the recommendations decided to read it.
It occupies a weird space for me in that it might be his best but it's certainly not my favorite by him. Just a brutal, brutal book and not in a Jim Thompson way but in a this-is-only-a-slightly-fictional-account-of-what-really-happened way. I've read numerous articles about the 'War on Drugs' and in particular the brutality it's inflicted on the Mexican people. The amount of bodies that are disposed of in hideous ways becomes numbing over time. That's the point I guess but... definitely not an easy read. For whatever reason I actually found 'Blood Meridian' less disturbing. Maybe because it's a period piece and the archaic language.
Personally, The Dawn Patrol, followed by California Fire and Life are my favorites, but Dog is totally his best. He told me once that a lot of the violence was toned down from what actually happened over the decades as the cartels fought for dominance.

Blood Meridian, horrific as it is, is pretty clearly fictional. Dog could have been a documentary, and in the end, even when or if some bad guys go down, more and worse will pop up, because the system is fundamentally broken, and in the meantime, thousands of innocents will get hurt or die. Makes Traffic look like Barney.

George Pelecanos, Joseph Wambaugh, and Michael Connelly are very good at making their worlds feel real, like you could see it on the news.
post #350 of 3025
Robert B. Parker passed away.

I really didn't like his books for a long time, but over the last 10 years I mellowed and came to appreciate the Spenser books for what they are. No matter how smug he became, it was tough to stay clear of Spenser with his winning self-effacing sense of humour. Glad Parker got to see the Sox win the series.

His novel Appaloosa was adapted into a decent western by Ed Harris.
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