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post #3001 of 3025
3/31/13 at 11:34am

On a side note, I forgot completely that Frank wrote the screenplay for the underrated Heaven's Prisoners (should've been the start of a Dave Robicheaux franchise).

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post #3002 of 3025
3/31/13 at 12:59pm
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On a side note, I forgot completely that Frank wrote the screenplay for the underrated Heaven's Prisoners (should've been the start of a Dave Robicheaux franchise).


Baldwin was a perfect Dave with that rough, gravelly voice that sounded like it was coming from a throat that had been drenched with alcohol for decades.

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post #3003 of 3025
3/31/13 at 2:18pm

Yes, and solid direction from Phil Joanou...I remember waiting for that flick being delayed for a year or two.  A shame, it was unlikely to break records but Baldwin clearly had a love for crime writers, and I don't doubt he would've been up for such a good role again. 
 

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post #3004 of 3025
3/31/13 at 2:47pm

I'm so glad I'm not the only person who liked Heaven's Prisoners as an adaptation.

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post #3005 of 3025
4/1/13 at 12:44am
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Bosch coming to TV makes me wish even harder for a Dawn Patrol series. I even think California Fire and Life could work as a kick-ass crime series about an insurance investigator on house fires. It'd be a different kind of procedural, at least. Lots of different ways to commit arson. Only thing about the book is that it's tied so closely to its mid-90's roots what with having the Big Bad being a former KGB officer turned mobster. That could be dropped, but it was an interesting story for a villain. Too bad Olyphant is tied up with Justified. Maybe Jeffrey Donovan, of Burn Notice fame? Good actor, in shape. I've heard rumors that the next season is the last.

 

Of course, this is all moot. I lack the ability to make my fanboy dreams come true with just the power of my mind.*

 

 

*I did suggest Jon Hamm for Art Keller in Power of the Dog today and Don liked that. That movie comes to pass, I'm gonna try my hardest to play an extra that gets killed in one of the shoot-outs.

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post #3006 of 3025
4/1/13 at 6:58pm

I just want a new Dawn Patrol book. I'd drop whatever book I'm reading to buy/read that the day it came out.

 

Also, if you have a kindle, Kings of Cool is 3 bucks for the month of April! GOGOGOGOGOGO!


Edited by thecallahan - 4/1/13 at 7:10pm
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post #3007 of 3025
4/2/13 at 8:14pm
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Just got Robert Wilson's newest thriller, Capital Punishment, and it's his first book set where he's from and currently lives-England (Not his first Brit character.  That would be be Bruce Medway as a "fixer" in his hard boiled noir thrillers set in West Africa.), where the daughter of a prominent Indian businessman, she drunk as a skunk, gets into the wrong cab and is kidnapped. Enter British kidnapping and retrieval expert Charlie Boxer (GREAT name). The action splits between Mumbai and London and Wilson writes both settings equally well, especially England's, uh, colorful history with India. Wilson doesn't just have British authority and crime figures, but India's much less written about version of both.  I don't want to get too much into the plot, but it soon gets bigger and more complicated than a simple kidnapping for ransom

 

Great book(so far!) and I really like how Wilson changes up his style for this one. Don Winslow fans should pick it up.

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post #3008 of 3025
4/2/13 at 10:24pm

No idea if this'll be covered on the front page, but it's been a day or so: Chloe Grace Moretz is joining Charlize Theron in the film version of Gillian Flynn's Dark Places. Potentially a trickier film to cast than Gone Girl*, because of the time shifts, and the role of the mother is actually the one I'm most intrigued to see cast. It's also important that they really catch the economic desperation that pervades the book, and not simply go Hollywood-shabby with it. IMHO, the book doesn't completely stick the landing, but done right, it could be quite a gutpunch of a movie.

 

 

 

*Actually, casting Gone Girl is a slam dunk: Bradley Cooper and Jennifer Lawrence.

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post #3009 of 3025
4/3/13 at 5:16pm
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The great David Morrell (seriously, First Blood is not just one of the best thrillers ever, but one of the best anti-war novels ever written.) has a new book out next month called Murder as a Fine Art about the Radcliffe Highway murders, not as famous as Jack The Ripper, but was just as notorious back then, and its protagonist is the real life Thomas de Quincey, author of Confessions of an Opium Eater.

 

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post #3010 of 3025
4/3/13 at 9:26pm

I read The Friends of Eddie Coyle. The dialogue is amazing, it makes me wonder if Elmore Leonard didn't read this and take a few tips on how to create interesting characters (there's even a quote on the cover from Leonard 'the best crime novel ever written). I'm really thankful that the film Killing Them Softly engineered a reprinting of Higgin's work, I'm reading The Digger's Game next.


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post #3011 of 3025
4/3/13 at 9:45pm
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I read The Friends of Eddie Coyle. The dialogue is amazing, it makes me wonder if Elmore Leonard didn't read this and take a few tips on how to create interesting characters (there's even a quote on the cover from Leonard 'the best crime novel ever written). I'm really thankful that the film Killing Them Softly engineered a reprinting of Higgin's work, I'm reading The Digger's Trade next.

Leonard is a huge admirer of Higgins.

 

Track down The Agent. It's Glengary Glenn Ross in the world of sports agents. Jerry Maguire as narrated by Bob Sugar. It's Maguire with massive, dangling testicles.

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post #3012 of 3025
4/3/13 at 10:45pm

What was interesting to me is how unflattering the world of the criminals was, usually, there's a certain amount of seduction into the world of a professional criminal but here, it's profoundly unglamorous which is the point. The dialogue was the book's greatest strength, the plot seemed almost secondary to allow the character's to talk. I also have Michael Connelly's The Black Echo on my kindle which I'll get to after The Digger's Game.

 

That's great news about Dark Places, I like that Flynn delivers such wonderful complex female characters.

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post #3013 of 3025
4/4/13 at 8:17pm
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I'm taking a break from CHUD for awhile. This post http://www.chud.com/community/t/147442/nick-makes-a-rape-joke and http://everythingrhymeswithalcohol.tumblr.com/post/46992532244/trigger-warning-rape-culture-so-tonight-i explains why. Anyone who wants to contact me can PM me or here's my facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/cameron.hughes.986

It's been great and I really like all of you, and if I do return, I'll be treating this thread like Rick's in Casablanca.
Edited by Cameron Hughes - 4/5/13 at 10:50am
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post #3014 of 3025
4/4/13 at 10:38pm

Here's a question I'm sure someone here will probably know.  In David Fincher's film Panic Room, there's a dialogue exchange between Dwight Yoakam and Jared Leto...

 

 

Raoul (Yoakam):  Don't you take no tone with me jerk-wad.  'Cause I'll shove it up your ass and snap it off.
Junior (Leto): You know what?  You're a bus-driver, Raoul!  You live in Flatbush!  So don't start spouting some Elmore Leonard bullshit you just heard because I saw that movie too.
 
Just wondering...  Is there a specific novel or film being referring to, there?  Or is screenwriter Koepp making the Elmore Leonard reference just for the joke?  I was thinking it was a reference to maybe Get Shorty or Out of Sight, but I'm not sure.  Just one of those things that's been gnawing at me.
 
Thanks, in advance!
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post #3015 of 3025
4/5/13 at 5:15am
Could be wrong, but I don't think it's a reference to any specific film.
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post #3016 of 3025
4/11/13 at 7:54am

Speaking of Leonard, here's a piece he wrote for The Atlantic last year.

 

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/07/ice-man/309005/?single_page=true
 

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post #3017 of 3025
4/11/13 at 9:07am

And a piece by Joe Lansdale.

 

http://www.texasobserver.org/the-day-before-the-day-after/
 

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post #3018 of 3025
5/21/13 at 10:06am

Hey guys, I'm searching for something to read and figured some of you might be able to help me. I'm looking for some urban fantasy books - detective books with a supernatural bent, along the lines of Constantine or Cast a Deadly Spell. Any recommendations?

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post #3019 of 3025
5/21/13 at 10:13am

The Harry Dresden books are the first thing I think of.

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post #3020 of 3025
5/21/13 at 1:07pm

For something darker and a little more adult, Mike Carey's Felix Castor series.
 

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post #3021 of 3025
5/22/13 at 2:42am

No, the series you are looking for is the Sandman Slim novels. Much more Hellblazer and Lovecraft than the Dresden novels, which are more adventure type stuff (thou worth your time, but horror they ain't)  

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post #3022 of 3025
5/22/13 at 3:48am
Carey also wrote one of the best Hellblazer runs and is currently working on the excellent Unwritten.
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post #3023 of 3025
5/22/13 at 5:17am

Agreed on the Hellblazer point, but the Unwritten has never worked for me. Around the second year it just came across as a lesser version of Morrison's Invisables

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post #3024 of 3025
5/23/13 at 10:38am

Well, that's not necessarily a bad thing...
 

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post #3025 of 3025
5/23/13 at 10:55am

Ditto on the Felix Castor books, and Sandman Slim. You might also like Chris Holm's "The Collector" series - "Dead Harvest" and "The Wrong Goodbye." 

 

Nice to see some action in here.

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