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Skull & Bones and the 2004 election, Kerry was never going to win....

post #1 of 76
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The 2004 election was rigger from top to bottom. We know the 2000 election was just a dry run for the techniques that would be used again in 2004. But the powers that be couldn't run the risk of a real Democratic contender with and vision or charisma going up against Bush because even a fucking Speak & Spell could win against that inarticulate r-tard. Their system of Diebold machines and voter suppression can only work providing that voter apathy is strong enough that the people don't feel the need to mobilize against a sitting President and vote the fucker out. This is why John Kerry was the Democratic nominee and why he was never going to win.

John Kerry is a member of Skull & Bones as is Bush. Kerry was put in the position of Democratic frontrunner because they, that is the real people in charge, went to him and said "Listen, John, we need you to take one for the team, so here's the deal, you run against Bush but your going to lose, but only by a small margin, so nothing looks to suspicious, because we need monkey boy sitting in that Oval office and in exchange you'll concede the election with tens of millions of dollars in Democratic donations, that you can keep for your service to Skull & Bones".

This is the only explanation as to why Kerry was nominated in the first place because the guys a fucking stiff. Who ever heard of him before, say, 2002? Is this really the ONLY person that the Dems could get to go up against the Chimp? And despite this David Gale look-a-like's Frankenstein like demeanor, I still can't believe that anyone with any sense would vote against an actual Vietnam Veteran as opposed to that shit flinging redneck who sat out that War in the Texas National Guard because of his Daddy's connections.
post #2 of 76
I knew The Skulls was more than a movie!

Seriously, though, come on. You honestly think it had something to do with some "secret" society? Is that how Ted Kennedy got to kill somebody and walk away from it (oh snap!)? Look, the candidates were off on both sides and people went with Bush because to shake stuff up at the time, in the middle of the Iraq thing, would have caused too much trouble.
post #3 of 76
Dude, shhhhhhhh......
.....they watch this place too.

Let me let you in on another little secret: You think Don Piano was banned for being an asshole? If so, I'm going to blow your mind...

He's dead.

What you have to understand is that it all started with Heath Ledger. He had taken his involvement in a super hero movie too seriously. By night he had started a campaign against the secret forces running the country.... He went too deep. The trilateral commission noticed that he was digging close to the truth - something that they couldn't have. They informed their lackeys in skull and bones to take care of it. They did.

But they couldn't have the world suspicious - it had to look like an accident so the world would mourn normally, not think anything was unusual. It wouldn't make any sense if a guy with no visible problems just offed himself. So they tried to make it look like an accident, even sending out agents like Don Piano all over the media and internet to make sure public sentiment was that of disappointed mourning rather than active suspicion. Unfortunately for them, Don Piano went rogue. He spread more venom and cynicism and callousness instead of his true mission. They tracked him down, and the rest is history.....

The story they try to put out there "oh Don Piano was banned for being threatening and baiting" or "Holy shit, there might actually be some people that happen to fucking disagree with you" is bullshit people. That's not sexy! That doesn't have narrative! How could that possibly be true?

You are a pitiful mind if you don't think the major world changing stories of our time aren't perpetrated by a massive network of secret individuals working events into a strict engineered agenda in such a way that not one person would find out. What idiot thinks they don't have a vast pool of individuals that are perfectly willing to go against all human nature and keep their mouths shut about it forever. Do you think the world would actually just happen to go differently than how we think it should from time to time in the natural order of things and aren't giant plots?

Fools.

EDIT: And CrackInTheCrown - I hope that wool over your eyes is nice and soft... tool.
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Dude, shhhhhhhh......
.....they watch this place too.

Let me let you in on another little secret: You think Don Piano was banned for being an asshole? If so, I'm going to blow your mind...

He's dead.

What you have to understand is that it all started with Heath Ledger. He had taken his involvement in a super hero movie too seriously. By night he had started a campaign against the secret forces running the country.... He went too deep. The trilateral commission noticed that he was digging close to the truth - something that they couldn't have. They informed their lackeys in skull and bones to take care of it. They did.

But they couldn't have the world suspicious - it had to look like an accident so the world would mourn normally, not think anything was unusual. It wouldn't make any sense if a guy with no visible problems just offed himself. So they tried to make it look like an accident, even sending out agents like Don Piano all over the media and internet to make sure public sentiment was that of disappointed mourning rather than active suspicion. Unfortunately for them, Don Piano went rogue. He spread more venom and cynicism and callousness instead of his true mission. They tracked him down, and the rest is history.....

The story they try to put out there "oh Don Piano was banned for being threatening and baiting" or "Holy shit, there might actually be some people that happen to fucking disagree with you" is bullshit people. That's not sexy! That doesn't have narrative! How could that possibly be true?

You are a pitiful mind if you don't think the major world changing stories of our time aren't perpetrated by a massive network of secret individuals working events into a strict engineered agenda in such a way that not one person would find out. What idiot thinks they don't have a vast pool of individuals that are perfectly willing to go against all human nature and keep their mouths shut about it forever. Do you think the world would actually just happen to go differently than how we think it should from time to time in the natural order of things and aren't giant plots?

Fools.
Wonderful. I think I just went gay for you. Thanks a lot. Thanks a fucking lot.
post #5 of 76
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Originally Posted by TheMonsterZero View Post
Dude, shhhhhhhh......
.....they watch this place too.

Let me let you in on another little secret: You think Don Piano was banned for being an asshole? If so, I'm going to blow your mind...

He's dead.

What you have to understand is that it all started with Heath Ledger. He had taken his involvement in a super hero movie too seriously. By night he had started a campaign against the secret forces running the country.... He went too deep. The trilateral commission noticed that he was digging close to the truth - something that they couldn't have. They informed their lackeys in skull and bones to take care of it. They did.

But they couldn't have the world suspicious - it had to look like an accident so the world would mourn normally, not think anything was unusual. It wouldn't make any sense if a guy with no visible problems just offed himself. So they tried to make it look like an accident, even sending out agents like Don Piano all over the media and internet to make sure public sentiment was that of disappointed mourning rather than active suspicion. Unfortunately for them, Don Piano went rogue. He spread more venom and cynicism and callousness instead of his true mission. They tracked him down, and the rest is history.....

The story they try to put out there "oh Don Piano was banned for being threatening and baiting" or "Holy shit, there might actually be some people that happen to fucking disagree with you" is bullshit people. That's not sexy! That doesn't have narrative! How could that possibly be true?

You are a pitiful mind if you don't think the major world changing stories of our time aren't perpetrated by a massive network of secret individuals working events into a strict engineered agenda in such a way that not one person would find out. What idiot thinks they don't have a vast pool of individuals that are perfectly willing to go against all human nature and keep their mouths shut about it forever. Do you think the world would actually just happen to go differently than how we think it should from time to time in the natural order of things and aren't giant plots?

Fools.

EDIT: And CrackInTheCrown - I hope that wool over your eyes is nice and soft... tool.
First of all, Don Piano's not with us anymore? That saddens me. I enjoyed those pointless posts.

Second, I'm so sorry I don't agree with you. I'll just go tattoo Craftsman across my forehead. That way you can sleep better at night.
post #6 of 76
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This is the only explanation as to why Kerry was nominated in the first place because the guys a fucking stiff.
Right no one would ever vote for someone as stiff as John Kerry, that's just silly. Obviously he had to have been a fake candidate there's no other explanation.

Wait you're probably another troll, why am I bothering?
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You honestly think it had something to do with some "secret" society? Is that how Ted Kennedy got to kill somebody and walk away from it (oh snap!)?
Ted Kennedy went to Harvard, not Yale.
post #8 of 76
I know. I was just making a joke. That, and the bastard just kind of freaks me out. He could totally be in a secret society.
post #9 of 76
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Right no one would ever vote for someone as stiff as John Kerry, that's just silly. Obviously he had to have been a fake candidate there's no other explanation.

Wait you're probably another troll, why am I bothering?
Open your eyes and see past the bullshit man! Of course people voted for him. The Sickness said above that it had to be close, or folks would get suspicious. That's why they called in their connection with the Shriners. Do I need to hold your hand here? Shriners... are old people. Now look, who runs polling places...? Hmmm?

.......did I just blow your fucking mind Insildur's Bangs?

They engineered this shit from the begninning! Of course it's not obvious or everyone would know, but I'd think the good folks at CHUD might have enough brains between them to see how this plot could be explained in a single paragraph with a little simplified logic. Go with your gut folks.
post #10 of 76
This thread would've still been stupid in 2004. The fact that it's 2008, well,....
post #11 of 76
I'm going to be honest, Soul Ahn Ice: I came for a philosophical discussion of the 2000 masterpiece The Skulls. Imagine my surprise!
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This thread would've still been stupid in 2004. The fact that it's 2008, well,....
Well of course! Look past the fact that it would be utterly convenient to bring this topic back up right now and is an easy way to explain away our discontent with past events, and see the truth.... they've let their guard down in these four years, that's why we can bring the light for you people now.
post #13 of 76
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I'm going to be honest, Soul Ahn Ice: I came for a philosophical discussion of the 2000 masterpiece The Skulls. Imagine my surprise!
Gawd, can you people stop talking about movies for three fucking seconds? For fucks' sake - this isn't the place for it! Stop dismissing the well-thought explanation we are giving you for this huge event! I know it sounds ridiculous and completely fucking dumb... to a conformist.
post #14 of 76
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Most people responding to this thread = BLAH BLAH BLAH

Yeah, there are no conspiracies, people don't get together and CONSPIRE to do shit like, say, falsify intelligence to start a war or CONSPIRE to spread fear so you fucking sheeple will give up your Right's to be safe, kinda like the shit George Orwell wrote about in 1948.

Most of you tools have been conditioned to respond to any suggestion that thing's might not be as they seem with references to tinfoil hats.

So keep making references to The Skulls, which I haven't seen btw because it stars that douche from Dawson's Creek, and sleep because all is well.

What's really telling is how many of your are more concerned with how Warner Brothers is going to market The Dark Knight after the death of Heath Ledger then the way your right to elect your Goverment Representitives is being taken away from you.
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Most people responding to this thread = BLAH BLAH BLAH

Yeah, there are no conspiracies, people don't get together and CONSPIRE to do shit like, say, falsify intelligence to start a war or CONSPIRE to spread fear so you fucking sheeple will give up your Right's to be safe, kinda like the shit George Orwell wrote about in 1948.

Most of you tools have been conditioned to respond to any suggestion that thing's might not be as they seem with references to tinfoil hats.

So keep making references to The Skulls, which I haven't seen btw because it starts that douche from Dawson's Creek, and sleep because all is well.

What's really telling is how many of your are more concerned with how Warner Brothers is going to market The Dark Knight after the death of Heath Ledger then the way your right to elect your Goverment Representitives is being taken away from you.
Preach. Fucking. It.
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Preach. Fucking. It.
Thank you TheMonsterZero, even though my sarcasm detector is going off, but I guess I can't hit people here with a cold dose of reality without being made fun of. Not suprising for a site dedicated towards the manufacturing of illusion.
post #17 of 76
How are those tazer burns healing, Sickness?
post #18 of 76
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Right no one would ever vote for someone as stiff as John Kerry, that's just silly. Obviously he had to have been a fake candidate, there's no other explanation.
And people voted for Bush over Gore because they thought he was someone they could have a beer with.
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How are those tazer burns healing, Sickness?
All you have is snark and, in your mind, pithy little jokes as a psychological defense against the fact that you, the individual who has a voice that matters, is slowly coming to an end in this country.
post #20 of 76
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Most of you tools have been conditioned to respond to any suggestion that thing's might not be as they seem with references to tinfoil hats.
This is one thing that bugs me the most, I'm hoping you can help.

Is part of the conditioning to make use perceive most of the conspiracy people as basically less intelligent than everybody else or is that fact just a coincidence?
post #21 of 76
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And people voted for Bush over Gore because they thought he was someone they could have a beer with.
Gore won the popular vote you dolt. With very few exceptions in our history a Presidential Candidate who wins the popular vote almost always wins the electoral vote. But sometimes shit gets rigged. Voting machines malfunction. One candidate may have a brother who is the governor of a particular state, and the people said governor hired to handle the election in that particularly state might be loyal to the governor's brother who is running for the office of President, as well as the people who actually make the voting machines. This can cause all sorts of shit to be stirred up. African American's and other minorities become disenfranchised, absentee ballots are wrongfully disqualified, etc. etc.

And you see when this happens the state electors end up giving their vote up to the guy who was actually the less popular candidate, and thusly he becomes the President.

It's got nothing to do with fucking Skull and Bones.
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This is one thing that bugs me the most, I'm hoping you can help.

Is part of the conditioning to make use perceive most of the conspiracy people as basically less intelligent than everybody else or is that fact just a coincidence?
There is no conditioning you snarky shit, we're just a few wise people that have opened our minds enough to see the sometimes major shit has super-duper complicated stuff going on behind it. Is it so hard to believe that not everything is as it seems? Open your eyes, the truth is out there.
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One question. Are you down with The Sickness?
post #24 of 76
Dammit! Beat me to it.
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One question. Are you down with The Sickness?
Come on, get up out of your sarcastic bullshit Jake.

You fuckers have to drop your immaturity sometime.
post #26 of 76
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There is no conditioning you snarky shit, we're just a few wise people that have opened our minds enough to see the sometimes major shit has super-duper complicated stuff going on behind it. Is it so hard to believe that not everything is as it seems? Open your eyes, the truth is out there.
No I'm serious, most of the time it seems the "conspiracy people" (I'm trying to restrain myself here) are plainly just less intelligent than your average poster. I'm not talking about ignorance or being uninformed, but just people who are typically not "up to par" in the brains department.

Look at the first post in this "discussion" and tell me with all seriousness than you don't see my point?
post #27 of 76
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This is one thing that bugs me the most, I'm hoping you can help.

Is part of the conditioning to make use perceive most of the conspiracy people as basically less intelligent than everybody else or is that fact just a coincidence?
Tampa Florida? So did you actually vote in 2004? Did the election rigging of 2000 put you off? Did you vote at all or were you more concerned about seeing that weeks movie releases?
post #28 of 76
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Gore won the popular vote you dolt. With very few exceptions in our history a Presidential Candidate who wins the popular vote almost always wins the electoral vote. But sometimes shit gets rigged. Voting machines malfunction. One candidate may have a brother who is the governor of a particular state, and the people said governor hired to handle the election in that particularly state might be loyal to the governor's brother who is running for, as well as the people who make the voting machines. This can cause all sorts of shit to be stirred up. African American's are disenfranchised, absentee ballots are wrongfully disqualified, etc. etc.

And you see when this happens the state electors end up giving their vote up to the guy who was actually the less popular candidate, and thusly he becomes the President.

It's got nothing to do with fucking Skull and Bones.
Oh my fucking GAWD, are you actually suggesting that there was a.....say it quietly.......CONSPIRACY?!? What size is your tinfoil hat or do you just wrap tinfoil around your body underneath your clothes? How do you operate microwave ovens?
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One question. Are you down with The Sickness?
Come on Jake, get up Come on get down with the sickness.
post #30 of 76
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One question. Are you down with The Sickness?
Madness is a gift to me.
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Dammit! Beat me to it.
I picked that name just for the satisfaction of watching one of you dipshits make that reference. Because I knew you would.....
post #32 of 76
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There is no conditioning you snarky shit, we're just a few wise people that have opened our minds enough to see the sometimes major shit has super-duper complicated stuff going on behind it. Is it so hard to believe that not everything is as it seems? Open your eyes, the truth is out there.
Alright Monster, I thought you were joking at first, but obviously this is real.

As an expert of sorts when it comes to these sort of things let me assure you: There's no puppeteer pulling all the invisible strings behind an invisible curtain, there's no connection between stupid college "secret societies" and who becomes our next President except that these "secret societies" are known for having members that are either really rich and well connected, really smart or the captain of their respective sports team, or a combination. They're also not so secret if people know about them.

Now there are things that happen behind the scenes some of which we don't really understand, because they are things that happen behind the scenes. Not in public view. Not open to public disclosure, but there are alot of actions and motivations led by certain loyalties that are as clear and transparent as day.

It isn't clear or even at all evident that Bush is a member of a Satanic Cult, however it is clear that he is completely loyal to Big Oil and much of his actions as President have been motivated through those loyalties.

There you see, you can talk about these kinds of things without being loony or snarky because you think you've been enlightened.
post #33 of 76
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No I'm serious, most of the time it seems the "conspiracy people" (I'm trying to restrain myself here) are plainly just less intelligent than your average poster. I'm not talking about ignorance or being uninformed, but just people who are typically not "up to par" in the brains department.

Look at the first post in this "discussion" and tell me with all seriousness than you don't see my point?
Internet Message Board Warfare Rules....

1# If you don't agree with someone, show that you are superior to them(despite no actual proof of this) by mocking their intelligence, masculinity, financial/social status.

2# If you can't shame the person into not responding with taunts about their intelligence, masculinity, financial/social status then hit them with the grammar and spelling tactic.

3# The snark/pithy joke tactic is also useful in an "Oh snap" sort-of-way without actually winning the argument. But you'll feel more clever and more superior to your opponent, despite no proof of this thus it is a hollow victory.

4# If all else fails go complain to a moderator that you don't like engaging others in arguments that you can't counter with insults, snark, sarcasm or pithy jokes. Hopefully there will be enough like minded drones like yourself on the board that you can get the person banned.
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Oh my fucking GAWD, are you actually suggesting that there was a.....say it quietly.......CONSPIRACY?!? What size is your tinfoil hat or do you just wrap tinfoil around your body underneath your clothes? How do you operate microwave ovens?
Actually, he put it plainly: 'It's got nothing to do with fucking Skull and Bones.' Which was what your original post purported (and provided no evidence for). It's more tangible to think that the problems of the 2000 (and 2004) election were due to disenfranchised voters (and a little bit of racism) and faulty voting machines than it is guv'mint boogeymen.

None of this is so much a conspiracy considering it was reported in the media and available to the public, but nevertheless we live in a country where people believe that racism has gone the way of the dodo and rugged individualism is still possible in a class-based society, so it's very easily forgotten.

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Alright Monster, I thought you were joking at first, but obviously this is real.
He is joking.
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Alright Monster, I thought you were joking at first, but obviously this is real.

As an expert of sorts when it comes to these sort of things let me assure you: There's no puppeteer pulling all the invisible strings behind an invisible curtain, there's no connection between stupid college "secret societies" and who becomes our next President except that these "secret societies" are known for having members that are either really rich and well connected, really smart or the captain of their respective sports team, or a combination. They're also not so secret if people know about them.

Now there are things that happen behind the scenes some of which we don't really understand, because they are things that happen behind the scenes. Not in public view. Not open to public disclosure, but there are alot of actions and motivations led by certain loyalties that are as clear and transparent as day.

It isn't clear or even at all evident that Bush is a member of a Satanic Cult, however it is clear that he is completely loyal to Big Oil and much of his actions as President have been motivated through those loyalties.

There you see, you can talk about these kinds of things without being loony or snarky because you think you've been enlightened.
Just because someone is dedicated, they have to be joking? I'm glad you are finally taking this as serious as it is. Maybe you should go back and reread those posts you thought "were a joke" just because they were "fucking ridiculous" and put some thought to them.

Why would Bush care about oil when he can just control the fucking world with the help of his S&B lackeys? Again, you people take the obvious motivations that are obviously logical and can be understood with common sense and buy it like fucking conformists. You have to look deeper, read between the lines, and accept that some of these "nutjobs" that have only "factual minutiae" that "seek out patterns" and makes "ad hoc arguments" might just have a point. You think patterns just emerge because you are looking for them too hard?

I can't believe how stupid people can be. Insildur, I hope you take this gift that has been given to you and open your eyes.
post #36 of 76
Damn it El Capitan,

Why can't you just fuck off and die
and get down with the sickness?
FUCK YOU, I don't need this shit
I'm down with the sickness.
You stupid, sadistic, abusive fucking whore
Get down with the sickness!

EDIT: all credit belongs to Jake for the complete set up.
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He is joking.
I don't see anything funny about ignorance Sado. Go ahead and rationalize and dismiss and make yourself feel better by saying that this is all a farce.
post #38 of 76
I'm going to say....JohnShade? It's a new tactic, but it just feels right.

Incidentally, El Capitan...you're entirely right. It's remarkable that all the people who see THE TRUTH about conspiracies are also those who don't see the point in punctuation or reasoned argument. So, you know..REP REP REP
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As an expert of sorts when it comes to these sort of things
I would love to know how this came about.
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I'm going to say....JohnShade? It's a new tactic, but it just feels right.

Incidentally, El Capitan...you're entirely right. It's remarkable that all the people who see THE TRUTH about conspiracies are also those who don't see the point in punctuation or reasoned argument. So, you know..REP REP REP
Go fukc yourself ld, why dont you elevate the discourse instead of pointing out bulshit. Go ahead an rep you're lacky - that's why you people want that back so you can just perpretuate the circle jerk of sucking each other off when you agree and shitting on those who dont even if they might be right,

Were trying to talk about something real even if assholes derail soemtimes.
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This is the only explanation as to why Kerry was nominated in the first place because the guys a fucking stiff.
Okay, thanks for clearing that up for us.

Any chance you could explain the collapse of Tower 7? Because I've still got some questions about that too.
post #42 of 76
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Alright Monster, I thought you were joking at first, but obviously this is real.

As an expert of sorts when it comes to these sort of things let me assure you: There's no puppeteer pulling all the invisible strings behind an invisible curtain, there's no connection between stupid college "secret societies" and who becomes our next President except that these "secret societies" are known for having members that are either really rich and well connected, really smart or the captain of their respective sports team, or a combination. They're also not so secret if people know about them.

Now there are things that happen behind the scenes some of which we don't really understand, because they are things that happen behind the scenes. Not in public view. Not open to public disclosure, but there are alot of actions and motivations led by certain loyalties that are as clear and transparent as day.

It isn't clear or even at all evident that Bush is a member of a Satanic Cult, however it is clear that he is completely loyal to Big Oil and much of his actions as President have been motivated through those loyalties.

There you see, you can talk about these kinds of things without being loony or snarky because you think you've been enlightened.
I did not say Satanic Cult. I said Skull & Bones of which TWO members were pitted against each other for the Presidency of the United States of America. The odd's of that are astronomical. It's like two people who grew up on the same street both becoming the Republican and Democratic nominee's.

Also, if the fact that John Kerry and George W. Bush both refuse to say anything about the group, it's members or it's activities doesn't get your tinfoil hat zinging then I don't know what will. I guess they just joined the group to sip cognac and smoke cigars in plush lounges.

But you make this claim that Bush is subservient to Big Oil. Isn't that a conspiracy theory? You also claim that the 2004 election was rigged? Don't you love America? Because if you question George W. Bush then we have to question your loyalties to this country. That means we have to listen to your phonecalls and read everything you do on the internet because you might be in league with the terrorist's. That means we can rendition you to a country to be tortured so you will admit to what you don't know. I know what your thinking "but I'm white, they only do that to brown people". Well we can't take any chances so don't bother saying goodbye to your family because we have cut your telephone and disconnected your internet and don't try to run because our agents have your home surrounded as you read this.
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Just because someone is dedicated, they have to be joking? I'm glad you are finally taking this as serious as it is. Maybe you should go back and reread those posts you thought "were a joke" just because they were "fucking ridiculous" and put some thought to them.
Dude I've looked at those posts and they were batshit insane. Clearly I was in another world, a world formed entirely of my own paranoid delusions. Fucking ridiculous doesn't begin to cover it, there is no truth in that line of thinking, to call such a person insane would be generous. Do not fall into this trap, it is folly!

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Why would Bush care about oil when he can just control the fucking world with the help of his S&B lackeys?
You mean these people?



Not if we close down the Country Kitchen Buffet!

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Again, you people take the obvious motivations that are obviously logical and can be understood with common sense and buy it like fucking conformists.
If it's clearly obvious and obviously logical then why wouldn't buy into it?

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You have to look deeper, read between the lines, and accept that some of these "nutjobs" that have only "factual minutiae" that "seek out patterns" and makes "ad hoc arguments" might just have a point. You think patterns just emerge because you are looking for them too hard?
You know how when you stair at a popcorn ceiling for a long time and you start to make out faces and creatures and the occasional death/rape threat from your dog for not changing their water? That's you. Sometimes you've just got to pull your focus away and you see the popcorn ceiling for what it really is, a fucking ceiling.

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I can't believe how stupid people can be. Insildur, I hope you take this gift that has been given to you and open your eyes.
Get off the crack pipe.
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Originally Posted by Sado View Post
Actually, he put it plainly: 'It's got nothing to do with fucking Skull and Bones.' Which was what your original post purported (and provided no evidence for). It's more tangible to think that the problems of the 2000 (and 2004) election were due to disenfranchised voters (and a little bit of racism) and faulty voting machines than it is guv'mint boogeymen.

None of this is so much a conspiracy considering it was reported in the media and available to the public, but nevertheless we live in a country where people believe that racism has gone the way of the dodo and rugged individualism is still possible in a class-based society, so it's very easily forgotten.

He is joking.
Why should voters be disenfranchised. Every vote counts, the 2000 elections proved that. Also, there is no racism in the USA. The Ab-fab way that the Goverment prepared for and responded to Katrina and it's victim's in New Orleans proved that when it comes to cities with a large African-American population, this Goverment see's no difference between white or black.

What are these faulty voting machine's you speak of? Yes, you tinfoil hat idiots complain that Diebold can't be trusted because they have ties to the Republican Party but these machines have been designed so that it is impossible to push a button and erase votes.

I don't know what you mean by class-based society? Sorry but you must be talking about England, not the United States of America, the most free, democratic society known to man where anyone can make themselves into something within our capitalist system, which is designed so that everyone can have a piece of the American Dream without fear that a few greedy corporations can buy up everything.

What's wrong with rugged individualism. President George W. Bush is his own man, self made and the type of guy you'd like to have a beer with?
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I'm going to say....JohnShade? It's a new tactic, but it just feels right.
Seems very likely, I figured this was the case since the day The Sickness joined. Almost immediately he began referring to really old message board shit, particularly my political beliefs (albeit, somewhat in passing, it was clear as day). Besides that he doesn't come off at all as a real person because he doesn't seem to have an actual personality, but rather changes it depending on what thread or forum he's posting in.

By the way, if you're really curious CrackInTheCrown feel free to click that link I provided in my last post.
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Originally Posted by Isildur's Bangs View Post
Damn it El Capitan,

Why can't you just fuck off and die
and get down with the sickness?
FUCK YOU, I don't need this shit
I'm down with the sickness.
You stupid, sadistic, abusive fucking whore
Get down with the sickness!

EDIT: all credit belongs to Jake for the complete set up.
Would it be clever of me if I posted the lyrc's to Supertramp's "Dreamer"?
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Okay, thanks for clearing that up for us.

Any chance you could explain the collapse of Tower 7? Because I've still got some questions about that too.
I'm sure you have some "conspiracy theories" about that event that are transmitted through your tinfoil hat.
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Alright, I've got to get some work done and I can't keep the joke up if I can't be around to respond to everything.

The Sickness, I'm sorry for cheapening your thread by immaturely satirizing conspiracy theorists in it. Make a thread about the Lunar Landing - I'll be mature, I promise.

It's my opinion that theorists like that are always looking for the romance, the story, the narrative behind events. They are looking for a big picture, beyond the big picture, that isn't there. Insildur has a great metaphor with the focus on the ceiling. (There is another good one about looking at a mountain, then realizing that it is a grand beautiful metaphor for god and the achievements of the universe - then realizing that it's just a fucking mountain.)

Humans have always looked for a deeper plan to the events surrounding them. I don't know what it is about most people that they must think that someone somewhere, be it god or some old white S&B member, is controlling things but it is a trend.... It sounds like some sort of grand psycho-babble to say that "we as a species are looking to get a hand on the randomness of a huge world" but maybe that is it. Dunno.

Shit fucking happens. If you look at it, in context, with enough time, thought, common sense, and logic - the truth isn't usually shrouded. The problem is, most of the time - we don't know all the details, all the players. But the conspiracy theories look to reoversimplify situations and that doesn't work any better.
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Alright, I've got to get some work done and I can't keep the joke up if I can't be around to respond to everything.
Ditto, the joke has been played out enough at this point.
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Alright, I've got to get some work done and I can't keep the joke up if I can't be around to respond to everything.

The Sickness, I'm sorry for cheapening your thread by immaturely satirizing conspiracy theorists in it. It's my opinion that theorists like that are always looking for the romance, the story, the narrative behind events. They are looking for a big picture, beyond the big picture, that isn't there. Insildur has a great metaphor with the focus on the ceiling. (There is another good one about looking at a mountain, then realizing that it is a grand beautiful metaphor for god and the achievements of the universe - then realizing that it's just a fucking mountain.)

Humans have always looked for a deeper plan to the events surrounding them. I don't know what it is about most people that they must think that someone somewhere, be it god or some old white S&B member, is controlling things but it is a trend.... It sounds like some sort of grand psycho-babble to say that "we as a species are looking to get a hand on the randomness of a huge world" but maybe that is it. Dunno.

Shit fucking happens. If you look at it, in context, with enough time, thought, common sense, and logic - the truth isn't usually shrouded. The problem is, most of the time - we don't know all the details, all the players. But the conspiracy theories look to reoversimplify situations and that doesn't work any better.
I've been on these boards for a long time. I know when one of you is taking time away from the work your supposed to be doing in your cubicle. No need to be sorry for making fun of my thread, it was obvious, unclever and I've read enough of your posts over time to know that you fit right in on these boards.

But you are partially right, there isn't meaning behind everyhing and sometimes thing's are as they seem. It's just my belief that, based on what I've read about human history/behavior, when it comes to power, money and most especally politicians you can't risk taking anything at face value. You would have to be stupid not to and I think the people of Germany would agree.

I would think that given how the Bush Administration has used 9/11 to it's advantage (in terms of eroding civil liberties, starting a war based on false pretenses and allowing the Oil companies to use said war as an excuse to drive oil to $100 per barrel) that people would be a bit more skeptical about the 2004 election with John Kerry and George W. Bush being a part of this little clique.

A group I'll add that Prescott Bush, GWB's grandfather, was a member of. He also happened to make his fourtune dealing with the Nazi's and then used that money to get into the energy industry, specifically Oil. Funny, that would almost sound like a conpiracy theory if it wasn't true.

But if you can't handle that then sleep well knowing that Oswald acted alone.
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