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Natalee Holloway's 'killer' confesses.

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America, I apologise in advance for Dutch investigative journalists.

You'll soon get very bored of watching this guy toking on joints...

Again, apologies.
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To summarize: He said, on tape, that he had sex with the girl, she died for no reason, he called his friends, they took her body out to sea and dumped her.

Then he said he was lying when he said all that.
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Mos' office announced prosecutors were reopening their probe into Holloway
That's just wrong. Have they no shame? She a corpse!
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Originally Posted by MikeShaynePI View Post
That's just wrong. Have they no shame? She a corpse!
Hey, why do you think people go on those wild tropical vacations to places like Aruba? You can count on some crazy shit happening there.
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Hey, why do you think people go on those wild tropical vacations to places like Aruba? You can count on some crazy shit happening there.
Turistas and the trailer for The Ruins have effectively killed off jungle paradise vacations. Clearly, something evil is looking both to kill me and rob me blind, and not necessarily in that order.

Oh, and it was awesome the first time, and it's till awesome now: 1000 posts again! Ha ha!
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No one's probing me after I die.
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Hey, why do you think people go on those wild tropical vacations to places like Aruba? You can count on some crazy shit happening there.
You've never been to Aruba, I take it? It's like vacationing in Delaware, but with a better beach.
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You've never been to Aruba, I take it? It's like vacationing in Delaware, but with a better beach.
You're right, I've never been there. Also quoted 'cos you're funny.
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You're right, I've never been there. Also quoted 'cos you're funny.
Honestly, I'm glad that didn't come off snarky. I wanted it to sound playful, but it sounded blunt no matter how I worded it.
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Say what you will about Wayne's World, but the Delaware joke has held up over the years simply because it's perhaps one of the truest statements ever jotted down in the entire history of the world. Fuck, I'd love to get kidnapped and killed in Delaware, just so I can tell my boys in heaven (or hell) that, 'Well, shit, at least something happened as I was passing through.'
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As much as I like rich white girls...
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This asshole killed another woman.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37492667...news-americas/

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SANTIAGO, Chile - Dutch murder suspect Joran van der Sloot is on his way to Peru, where authorities are likely to charge him with the killing of a 21-year-old woman from the capital of Lima.

Chilean police say van der Sloot has proclaimed his innocence in Sunday's slaying of Stephany Flores in a Lima hotel room.

The 22-year-old van der Sloot also remains the prime suspect in the 2005 disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway on the Dutch Caribbean island of Aruba.
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Rich kid globetrotting on his dad's nickel.

I bet its because both girls wouldnt shag him.
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Originally Posted by The Closer View Post
Rich kid globetrotting on his dad's nickel.

I bet its because both girls wouldnt shag him.
Horrible.

This is why I view all rich people with deep suspicion.
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Edit: Nevermind
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This is why I view all rich people with deep suspicion.
If they're rich and have Asperger's I bet you'd lose your shit.
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Originally Posted by JudgeSmails View Post
If they're rich and have Asperger's I bet you'd lose your shit.
Imagine if they were Chinese Communists on top of all of that.
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Say what you will about Wayne's World, but the Delaware joke has held up over the years simply because it's perhaps one of the truest statements ever jotted down in the entire history of the world. Fuck, I'd love to get kidnapped and killed in Delaware, just so I can tell my boys in heaven (or hell) that, 'Well, shit, at least something happened as I was passing through.'
Sorry to derail.

But what's this joke about Delaware beaches?
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A rich, arrogant little shit who has been raised to believe that he is untouchable and superior treats women like disposable objects rather than worthwhile people?

I am shocked.
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Originally Posted by JudgeSmails View Post
If they're rich and have Asperger's I bet you'd lose your shit.
I fail to see the humor here. I've never said I didn't like people who claim to have aspergers. I've never said anything of the sort.

As for rich people, the worst people I've met in my life have all been rich.
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Sorry to derail.

But what's this joke about Delaware beaches?
It's not a joke about Delaware beaches. In Wayne's World, Wayne and Garth are monkeying around in front of a blue screen. The operator is throwing up post cards from various states and Wayne and Garth are pretending to be in those states (pretending to surf in Hawaii, etc.). Finally, the operator throws up a post card from Delaware which stumps the pair. It culminates with Wayne fumblingly stating, "Or imagine being able to be magically whisked away to... Delaware. Hi... I'm in Delaware."

Hmmmm, now I kinda want to watch Wayne's World again.
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He confessed to authorities.

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According to La Republica newspaper, he said that his anger exploded and he broke Stephany Flores' neck after she grabbed his laptop without his permission, and found out that he was involved in the disappearance of an American woman.

The paper quoted Van der Sloot as saying, "I did not want to do it. The girl intruded into my private life."
THAT'LL restart the Natalee Holloway case... not to mention the rain of "obstruction of justice" cases that'll probably spring from that well.
post #23 of 83
Hum ... this guy kind of has the makings of a serial killer.

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The same journalist, Peter de Vries, reported later in 2008 that van der Sloot was recruiting Thai women in Bangkok for sex work in the Netherlands.
I hope somebody traces back all his steps and tries to figure out if he's killed more girls along the way.
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I hope somebody traces back all his steps and tries to figure out if he's killed more girls along the way.
Yeah two girls on the same day exactly five years apart certainly suggests the tip of a grizzly iceberg to me.
post #25 of 83
He killed this girl 5 years to the day after Holloway disappeared. That's what worries me. Definitely the makings of (at least a wannabe) serial killer.

Edit: DAMN IT, Rain Dog, you beat me to my favorite fact from this horrible, horrible story. Van der Sloot is a piece of garbage, and I hope he rots in jail.
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Originally Posted by ZombieFever View Post
Sorry to derail.

But what's this joke about Delaware beaches?
Ah, the Delaware joke in Wayne's World. Makes me laugh every time. (Yes, I watch Wayne's World on a somewhat regular basis. We all have our guilty pleasures.)
post #27 of 83
Didn't know it was the same day ... strange.

Watching Peruvian news, his admission is partly BS ... he obviously killed her, but his reasons to kill her are probably to avoid the longer sentence. If the authorities go with his version, they consider it a "simple homicide", meaning it had no premeditation and would carry a maximum of 20 years.

Otherwise the max is 35 years, however if they prove he stole from her he could face life in prison.
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I suspect there's probably a lot more stuff he got away with. Maybe it would be good for the Dutch police to have a look at his vacations in the last five years.
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Yeah two girls on the same day exactly five years apart certainly suggests the tip of a grizzly iceberg to me.
I'm thinking this title for a sequel to Grizzly Park, this time with Polar bears instead.
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From what I understand, conditions in your average Peruvian jail aren't that comfortable.

Hopefully one of his bunkmates gets a bit stabby at the tail end of the 34th of his 35 year sentence.
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It's news stories like these that make the fact that I've yet to do much traveling in my life less depressing than it otherwise would be. I almost went on a 3 month trip on Amsterdam after highschool, and now I'm (almost) glad I didn't. Knowing that there are deranged dutchmen out there globe trotting tends to make you pause and think before booking any travel plans. Brokedown Palace, Taken ETC all teach us the lesson that sometimes the best vacation is one spent at home.
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It's news stories like these that make the fact that I've yet to do much traveling in my life less depressing than it otherwise would be. I almost went on a 3 month trip on Amsterdam after highschool, and now I'm (almost) glad I didn't. Knowing that there are deranged dutchmen out there globe trotting tends to make you pause and think before booking making any travel plans. Brokedown Palace, Taken ETC all teach us the lesson that sometimes the best vacation is one spent at home.
No. I've done more than my fair share of travel through Europe and never had a problem. Use common sense and don't go off with men that you just met and you'll be perfectly fine.
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Good call, Princess. Very wise. Europe = Hostel and, to a lesser extent, Hostel II.
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Originally Posted by HarleyQuinn22 View Post
No. I've done more than my fair share of travel through Europe and never had a problem. Use common sense and don't go off with men that you just met and you'll be perfectly fine.
Eh... my sister is currently in Europe and has been for about 6 months now, and I have friends who have traveled extensively. So far she's not run into any problems that I know of. However I am not so confident that I'd fair so well. Someone who goes to the local college just got crushed by a ski accident in Switzerland, and my sister had dinner with that girl who got killed by that crazy guy in 2009. I have bad luck, or I guess maybe bad luck swirls around me, and I don't want to tempt fate

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Good call, Princess. Very wise. Europe = Hostel and, to a lesser extent, Hostel II.
It's a legitimate concern at least
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Because nothing bad has ever happened in Massachusetts.
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Originally Posted by The Closer View Post
Because nothing bad has ever happened in Massachusetts.
That's not true, obviously, but I just think going abroad puts you at greater risk

EDIT: Or at least I'd feel at risk and be uncomfortable. I don't like crowds or cities.
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1) I was not talking about the Congo
2) Your link does not work.

EDIT: Now the link works, nevermind
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You are in no way in more danger in Amsterdam (hell, Europe) than you are in Massachusetts, so long as you don't make it painfully obvious that you're a tourist unfamiliar to the area. Do your homework and nothing bad will happen.
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You are in no way in more danger in Amsterdam (hell, Europe) than you are in Massachusetts, so long as you don't make it painfully obvious that you're a tourist unfamiliar to the area. Do your homework and nothing bad will happen.
I am tough and street smart in Massachusetts. I know these hills like the back of my hand and feel in control of my enviroment. As soon as you travel, all that goes right out the window. It gives an opening for thugs like Van Der Sloot to skulk through
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...so long as you don't make it painfully obvious that you're a tourist unfamiliar to the area..
We all know Kate is like our resident ninja. If anyone can blend in unseen and without making the entire world aware of her presence it's the Princess.
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We all know Kate is like our resident ninja. If anyone can blend in unseen and without making the entire world aware of her presence it's the Princess.
Nah, she's our resident Marcus Brody. "[Sh]e's got a two day head start on you, which is more than [s]he needs. [Princess]'s got friends in every town and village from here to the Sudan, [s]he speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom, [s]he'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see [her] again. With any luck, [s]he's got the grail already."
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
I almost went on a 3 month trip on Amsterdam after highschool, and now I'm (almost) glad I didn't. Knowing that there are deranged dutchmen out there globe trotting tends to make you pause and think before booking any travel plans.

Deranged globe trotting dutchmen don't tend to be in Amsterdam. Because of all the globe trotting and stuff. Eh, right?
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I am tough and street smart in Massachusetts. I know these hills like the back of my hand and feel in control of my enviroment. As soon as you travel, all that goes right out the window. It gives an opening for thugs like Van Der Sloot to skulk through
Only if you give them an opening. Like I said, do your homework. Study the areas you're traveling to. Don't go anywhere with total strangers. That's just common sense wherever you are.

I've been abroad a ton of times in my life and, following basic rules, been just fine. You're being paranoid.
post #45 of 83
Also, don't go strange places alone. Use the buddy system.
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Originally Posted by Mattioli View Post
Nah, she's our resident Marcus Brody. "[Sh]e's got a two day head start on you, which is more than [s]he needs. [Princess]'s got friends in every town and village from here to the Sudan, [s]he speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom, [s]he'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see [her] again. With any luck, [s]he's got the grail already."
damn you! I came in here to say the same damn thing....I even had the photo to go with it..well, I'm not going to waste the photo.

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We all know Kate is like our resident ninja. If anyone can blend in unseen and without making the entire world aware of her presence it's the Princess.
Eh, maybe. I don't know. I feel really self conscious in crowds, even though I know everyone is not paying attention to me it feels that way sometimes.

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Nah, she's our resident Marcus Brody. "[Sh]e's got a two day head start on you, which is more than [s]he needs. [Princess]'s got friends in every town and village from here to the Sudan, [s]he speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom, [s]he'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see [her] again. With any luck, [s]he's got the grail already."
Mattioli clearly paid close attention to the old proverb in my sig

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Originally Posted by agracru View Post
Only if you give them an opening. Like I said, do your homework. Study the areas you're traveling to. Don't go anywhere with total strangers. That's just common sense wherever you are.

I've been abroad a ton of times in my life and, following basic rules, been just fine. You're being paranoid.
I'm sure you're right, to some degree. I've traveled in Boston, NYC and even DC (late at night, during the Obama inauguration) without incident. All the same, I get freaked out thinking about people targeting me because of my nationality/race/sex. Paranoia or just common sense, whatever you want to call it I still get freaked out by unknown situations.

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Deranged globe trotting dutchmen don't tend to be in Amsterdam. Because of all the globe trotting and stuff. Eh, right?
Fair point. Though in fairness the charming backpacker/drug smuggler/rapist from TRANSIBERIAN was a Spanish guy.
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Originally Posted by HarleyQuinn22 View Post
No. I've done more than my fair share of travel through Europe and never had a problem. Use common sense and don't go off with men that you just met and you'll be perfectly fine.
Also know the rules, also if you go looking for trouble, it will always find you. Then again there are place like São Paulo and Mexico City, it just not worth going. It also helps if you know someone from said place. Speaking as a deranged globe trotting American, that is.
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No. I've done more than my fair share of travel through Europe and never had a problem. Use common sense and don't go off with men that you just met and you'll be perfectly fine.
Unless your dad is Liam Neeson.
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Has Greta Van Susteren already fired up the Fox News plane for Peru?
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