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post #51 of 162
2/5/08 at 7:15pm
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Originally Posted by Moltisanti View Post
I've always thought Selleck would have made a good Indy. It has nothing to do with what Ford did with the role, Selleck just has a similar likeability to him.
High Road to China gives a pretty good indication of what we might have seen. He's much more entertaining in that than the movie itself. It does have a nice John Barry score, though.
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post #52 of 162
2/5/08 at 7:16pm
I have always thought about this one, and I still wonder what Selleck would have done with the role. I'm going to go out on a limb here and assure that it would still have been a huge hit.

But then do we get Harrison Ford in Lassiter?
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post #53 of 162
2/5/08 at 7:26pm
I was always surprised they didn't get Selleck to play Fedora in the beginning of Last Crusade.
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post #54 of 162
2/5/08 at 7:28pm
I would have liked to have seen him show up as Indy's half-brother in the new film. I'm sure Henry got around.
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post #55 of 162
2/5/08 at 7:29pm
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Originally Posted by Amphibatron View Post
I was always surprised they didn't get Selleck to play Fedora in the beginning of Last Crusade.
Shit, that would have been inspired.
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post #56 of 162
2/5/08 at 7:44pm
According to Mankiewicz, they had Jon Voight waiting in the wings (for alot of $$$) in case Christopher Reeve didn't work out.
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post #57 of 162
2/5/08 at 7:48pm
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Originally Posted by Greg David View Post
Actually, those were different projects.
Crap, you're right. I read both bits of info in the same issue of Starlog back in the day...
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post #58 of 162
2/5/08 at 8:13pm
Wasn't David Niven going to be Alfred in that Mankiewicz Batman? Cosmically perfect casting.

OCEAN'S ELEVEN: Bruce Willis was going to be the Andy Garcia (would've been a hueg improvement); Mark Wahlberg was going to be the Matt Damon; Owen and Luke Wilson were going to be the bickering brothers, and Bill Murray was going to be some Vegas lounge act who got involved. But I think there was an actors' strike around the time and they bailed.
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post #59 of 162
2/5/08 at 8:22pm
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Originally Posted by Greg David View Post
It's interesting to note that based solely the success of The Amityville Horror, Kidder was more successful post-Superman than Reeve. Other than that, those roles didn't do much for either of them.
Reeve has Deathtrap and Remains of the Day on his resume. Advantage: Reeve
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post #60 of 162
2/5/08 at 8:35pm
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Originally Posted by Moltisanti View Post
I've always thought Selleck would have made a good Indy. It has nothing to do with what Ford did with the role, Selleck just has a similar likeability to him.
Also the fact that he's already in his 60's like Ford, but still looks incredibly youthful would help him out if Indy would have been succesful, and he'd be doing Kingdom now. But yeah, Selleck has charisma.



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Originally Posted by Moltisanti View Post
I would have liked to have seen him show up as Indy's half-brother in the new film. I'm sure Henry got around.
"She talks in her sleep."
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post #61 of 162
2/5/08 at 9:13pm
Richard Dreyfuss was discussed for Alan Grant in Jurassic Park, being Spielberg's go to guy for some years. I prefer Sam Neill personally.

The Al Swearengen role on Deadwood was initially intended for Ed O'Neill, until Ian McShane claimed it in an audition.

Danny DeVito was originally going to play Chili Palmer in Get Shorty.

And I'm sure everyone remembers Warren Beatty was gonna be in Kill Bill.
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post #62 of 162
2/5/08 at 9:41pm
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Originally Posted by Ratty View Post
Reeve has Deathtrap and Remains of the Day on his resume. Advantage: Reeve
In quality, perhaps. But Deathtrap was a big fat flop, along with Monsignor and Somewhere In Time and Street Smart. Remains of the Day was both a great film and a success, but Reeve's role was extremely small. It's like giving Kidder extra credit for fucking Richard Pryor.
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post #63 of 162
2/5/08 at 10:03pm
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Originally Posted by Greg David View Post
It's like giving Kidder extra credit for fucking Richard Pryor.
Actually, she should get extra credit for that.
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post #64 of 162
2/5/08 at 10:06pm
She might have, but he probably didn't remember any of it.
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post #65 of 162
2/5/08 at 10:59pm
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Originally Posted by Paul McCartney View Post
Wasn't David Niven going to be Alfred in that Mankiewicz Batman? Cosmically perfect casting.

OCEAN'S ELEVEN: ... and Bill Murray was going to be some Vegas lounge act who got involved.
Aw man! Too awesome for words on both of these.

Isn't the Stallone/BEVERLY HILLS COP snafu the reason why COBRA came about?

EDIT: Wikipedia had these things to say:

Sylvester Stallone was originally intended to play Axel Foley. After his departure due to differences in scope (he wanted more action than the producers would budget for) the role was re-written for Murphy. Stallone went on to use his version of the film as the basis for his movie Cobra. According to Eddie Murphy on Inside the Actor's Studio, Stallone also envisioned a "harder edged" screenplay. The character of Jenny Summers was originally a Stallone love interest, but was rendered only an "old friend" to Murphy's Foley. Mikey was originally supposed to be Stallone's brother.

On the DVD featurette, Producer Jerry Bruckheimer claimed that the part of Axel Foley was first offered to Mickey Rourke, who signed a holding contract to do the film. When revisions and other preparations took longer than expected, Rourke left the project to do another film. It was then offered to Stallone.

BHC2: In the scene where the cops return to Billy's (Judge Reinhold) apartment, there is a poster of Sylvester Stallone's Cobra. This is a reference to the fact that Stallone was originally cast as Axel Foley. After being released from the movie, Stallone made Cobra, where Stallone put his ideas into. A Special Edition of Beverly Hills Cop I details Stallone's involvement in the film project. During filming of BHCII, Stallone was married briefly to Brigitte Nielsen.
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post #66 of 162
2/6/08 at 2:58am
www.notstarring.com

Have at it.

By the way, Heath Ledger in No Country For Old Men.

And Paul Reubens as Gozer.
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post #67 of 162
2/6/08 at 3:04am
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Johnny Depp: Francis Ford Coppola's first choice for Jonathan Harker. The idea was voided by the studio.
Ouch.
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post #68 of 162
2/6/08 at 3:55am
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Originally Posted by The Gayest View Post
Of course, it's all user-submitted, so I'd think twice about the reliability of the information presented.
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post #69 of 162
2/6/08 at 4:47am
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Originally Posted by Greg David View Post
In quality, perhaps. But Deathtrap was a big fat flop, along with Monsignor and Somewhere In Time and Street Smart. Remains of the Day was both a great film and a success, but Reeve's role was extremely small. It's like giving Kidder extra credit for fucking Richard Pryor.
Whoa whoa whoa -- she did what with who?
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post #70 of 162
2/6/08 at 9:41am
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Originally Posted by Paul McCartney View Post
OCEAN'S ELEVEN:Mark Wahlberg was going to be the Matt Damon...But I think there was an actors' strike around the time and they bailed.
Nope. Wahlberg was set to do O11, but then opted to do Planet of the Apes instead.

Nice decision, Mark!
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post #71 of 162
2/6/08 at 1:48pm
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Originally Posted by Aranion View Post
Nope. Wahlberg was set to do O11, but then opted to do Planet of the Apes instead.

Nice decision, Mark!
Tim Roth decided that Planet of the Apes was better than the role of Severus Snape in the Harry Potter series. They offered it to him and everything. Whoops!
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post #72 of 162
2/6/08 at 2:20pm
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Originally Posted by Warrior Angel View Post
Whoa whoa whoa -- she did what with who?
Uh, welcome back, Warrior Angel...?

Kidder and Pryor were briefly a couple. I choked up when she said in an interview that the only two friends/co-workers who called to check on her during her "crazy in a bush with no dentures" chapter was made public were paralyzed Chris Reeve and MS-riddled Richard Pryor.
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post #73 of 162
2/6/08 at 2:25pm
What? Jackie Cooper couldn't find time to give Kidder a call? What an asshole.
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post #74 of 162
2/6/08 at 3:33pm
I heard Nicholson was offered Dreyfuss' role in Close Encounters, but turned it down because he thought the special effects would overshadow his performance.
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post #75 of 162
2/6/08 at 5:58pm
I think I actually read somewhere on another thread that Scott Baio admitted to turning down Top Gun in an interview.

2 questions:

What did he do instead, Zapped?

Isn't that the kind of career fuck-up you'd rather people didn't know about?

I also saw a really fun interview with Mickey Rourke that took place while he was getting a massage. He listed the films he turned down including Highlander and The Untouchables. For the latter he had to ask his massuer "yo, what was that Capone thing with Sean Connery?"
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post #76 of 162
2/6/08 at 7:58pm
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Originally Posted by Phil View Post
Kidder and Pryor were briefly a couple. I choked up when she said in an interview that the only two friends/co-workers who called to check on her during her "crazy in a bush with no dentures" chapter was made public were paralyzed Chris Reeve and MS-riddled Richard Pryor.
wow.
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post #77 of 162
2/6/08 at 8:07pm
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Originally Posted by Paulpatine View Post
I heard Nicholson was offered Dreyfuss' role in Close Encounters, but turned it down because he thought the special effects would overshadow his performance.
Also, Spielberg met with Steve McQueen for CLOSE ENCOUNTERS, and they hit it off when they met to discuss the movie (McQueen defended Spiel in a bar brawl), and McQueen really wanted to do it, but confessed that he couldn't/didn't want to cry onscreen, so had to bail.

I'm not sure if that's common knowledge or not, but for some reason I find that story touching.
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post #78 of 162
2/6/08 at 9:36pm
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Originally Posted by Paul McCartney View Post
Also, Spielberg met with Steve McQueen for CLOSE ENCOUNTERS, and they hit it off when they met to discuss the movie (McQueen defended Spiel in a bar brawl), and McQueen really wanted to do it, but confessed that he couldn't/didn't want to cry onscreen, so had to bail.

I'm not sure if that's common knowledge or not, but for some reason I find that story touching.
Interestingly, McQueen was also the first choice for Sorcerer.
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post #79 of 162
2/7/08 at 4:22am
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Originally Posted by The Gayest View Post
Richard Dreyfuss was discussed for Alan Grant in Jurassic Park, being Spielberg's go to guy for some years. I prefer Sam Neill personally.
I love Sam Neill's Alan Grant, too, but the thought of Dreyfuss delivering the 'raptors hunting monologue to the kid at the dig site makes me wish we'd gotten him.
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post #80 of 162
2/7/08 at 4:30am
A recent comment that Daniel Plainview was partially modeled after Dracula made me remember/hallucinate that Daniel Day-Lewis was actually a name Coppola had been after to play his Dracula.
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post #81 of 162
2/7/08 at 12:28pm
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Originally Posted by Phil View Post
A recent comment that Daniel Plainview was partially modeled after Dracula made me remember/hallucinate that Daniel Day-Lewis was actually a name Coppola had been after to play his Dracula.
I would have loved to have seen Day-Lewis' prep for that role.
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post #82 of 162
2/8/08 at 1:20pm
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Originally Posted by Moltisanti View Post
I would have liked to have seen him show up as Indy's half-brother in the new film. I'm sure Henry got around.
Wasn't Kevin Costner rumored to do this around the time Indy IV was about to get its first pass back in the early 90s?
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post #83 of 162
2/11/08 at 2:25am
(Wikipedia says) Adrien Brody, Robin Williams, Paul Bettany, and Steve Carell were considered for the Joker role in The Dark Knight.

Jim Carrey in the lead role in A Beautiful Mind? Ring a bell?
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post #84 of 162
2/11/08 at 2:43am
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Originally Posted by PsycheOut00 View Post
Wasn't Kevin Costner rumored to do this around the time Indy IV was about to get its first pass back in the early 90s?
I remember hearing that back in the day. Not sure if it had any validity or if the folks at Cinescape were throwing darts one day and ended up with that "rumor."
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post #85 of 162
2/11/08 at 2:57am
Shia LaBeouf was considered for the role of Robert Ford before it went to Casey Affleck.

That would have been a disaster. I've only seen the kid in two movies, and he played the same character in both: Disturbia + Transformers.

"You've got blue eyes, you know, and that's okay, 'cause I've got blue eyes too. And, no, no. I'm serious. We're both the same height, too."
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post #86 of 162
2/11/08 at 3:06am
I would have loved to have seen what Eric Stoltz would have done in Back to the Future. If only they filmed some of the movie with him in it.....oh wait.
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post #87 of 162
2/11/08 at 11:14am
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Originally Posted by dynamotv View Post
I would have loved to have seen what Eric Stoltz would have done in Back to the Future. If only they filmed some of the movie with him in it.....oh wait.
I like to imagine that Stoltz went straight from the set of Mask and played Marty McFly in his Rocky Dennis makeup. It would have been a very different movie; he goes back in time, accidentally prevents his parents from meeting, and despite his best efforts they decide getting together is a horrible idea.
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post #88 of 162
2/11/08 at 12:45pm
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Originally Posted by TheMantis View Post
(Wikipedia says) Adrien Brody, Robin Williams, Paul Bettany, and Steve Carell were considered for the Joker role in The Dark Knight.
I would absolutely had to have boycotted it if Robin Williams had been given the role. No matter how great he is in dramas, no matter how dark The Dark Knight is supposed to be, you know he wouldn't have been able to resist his constant mugging and hyperactive behavior for two seconds as the Joker.
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post #89 of 162
2/11/08 at 2:29pm
In an alternate universe, there is an insane version of Ghost of Mars with Courtney Love in the lead opposite Ice Cube.
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post #90 of 162
2/11/08 at 3:09pm
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Originally Posted by LisaNY View Post
I would absolutely had to have boycotted it if Robin Williams had been given the role. No matter how great he is in dramas, no matter how dark The Dark Knight is supposed to be, you know he wouldn't have been able to resist his constant mugging and hyperactive behavior for two seconds as the Joker.
I'm with you. Robin Williams would have been incredibly wrong for the movie. Steve Carrell also would have been a bad choice; he's funny, and sharp featured, but entirely the wrong kind of energy and humor.
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post #91 of 162
2/11/08 at 5:50pm
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Originally Posted by Ratty View Post
In an alternate universe, there is an insane version of Ghost of Mars with Courtney Love in the lead opposite Ice Cube.
Insane would be an improvement.
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post #92 of 162
2/11/08 at 8:27pm
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Insane would be an improvement.
Yep. And a documentary about the making of that movie would be riveting.
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post #93 of 162
2/11/08 at 8:37pm
I recently heard on TV that Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt weren't going to be Mr. & Mrs. Smith but ofcourse they changed their minds. Nicole Kidman was offered the role of Jane Smith and turned it down. I think that would have been terrible if Kidman played Jane Smith.
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post #94 of 162
2/11/08 at 11:45pm
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I think that would have been terrible if Kidman played Jane Smith.
Shiloh Pitt probably agrees with you.
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post #95 of 162
7/1/10 at 3:20pm
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Originally Posted by Ratty View Post
In an alternate universe, there is an insane version of Ghost of Mars with Courtney Love in the lead opposite Ice Cube.
I think that would still make the same bad movie.
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post #96 of 162
7/1/10 at 3:37pm
I've been thinking about this, and I'm glad this thread got bumped to give me a place to put it: what happens if, back in 1977, Mark Hamill doesn't survive that car accident? Does Empire still get made, just with a different actor? Or does Lucas decide he can't do it without the original Luke?
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post #97 of 162
7/1/10 at 3:53pm
There was always William Katt.
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post #98 of 162
7/1/10 at 4:07pm
As much as I loved Inglourious Basterds, I would have loved to have seen Sandler as Bear Jew. His goofy looks fit so much better with the group of normal looking guys that Aldo gathered than Eli Roth. Picture it, that ominous tapping in the tunnel and out comes Sandler's wide grinning face.
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post #99 of 162
7/1/10 at 4:22pm
Sean Connery was the original choice for Morpheus in The Matrix. As much as I like Fishburne in the role, the age difference between him and Reeves gives you the impression that the lifelong obsession with finding the One couldn't have been actively frustrating him for more than a few years, at most. Connery could have sold the idea of a captain who has been combing the system for decades and is desperate enough to break all protocol when he finally thinks he found what he has been looking for. He'd have brought the Captain Ahab/Simeon vibe to the role that the script for the first film was obviously shooting for.
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post #100 of 162
7/1/10 at 4:35pm
Sean Connery as Morpheus would've given the whole movie a completely different vibe. I can't even imagine it. Plus, the man simply didn't get the concept anyway. Does an actor have to 'get it' in order to deliver a good/fitting performance? Who knows? But I like Fishburne in the role too much to want to know.
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