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2008: The Year Our Grandchildren Traveled Back From The Future To Kill Us

post #1 of 37
2/9/08 at 4:49am
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Our reality to be turned into sub-par episodes of Star Trek, wacky Russians say:

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The first time travellers from the future could materialise on Earth within a few weeks.

Physicists around the world are excitedly awaiting the start up of the £4.65 billion Large Hadron Collider, LHC - the most powerful atom-smasher ever built - which is supposed to shed new light on the particles and forces at work in the cosmos and reproduce conditions that date to near the Big Bang of creation.

Prof Irina Aref'eva and Dr Igor Volovich, mathematical physicists at the Steklov Mathematical Institute in Moscow believe that the vast experiment at CERN, the European particle physics centre near Geneva in Switzerland, may turn out to be the world's first time machine, reports New Scientist.

The debut in early summer could provide a landmark because travelling into the past is only possible - if it is possible at all - as far back as the point of creation of the first time machine.

That means 2008 could become "Year Zero" for temporal travel, they argue.
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post #2 of 37
2/9/08 at 5:14am
Why would time travel be limited to the origin of the first time machine?
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post #3 of 37
2/9/08 at 5:25am
Don't even know why I am bothering to guess since I know nothing about this shit... but maybe something like having a door to come out of to connect with the one you went in through?
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post #4 of 37
2/9/08 at 6:17am
First thing I'd do?

Mortgage my house on the Giants to win by three.
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post #5 of 37
2/9/08 at 6:23am
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Originally Posted by Greg Clark View Post
Why would time travel be limited to the origin of the first time machine?
Basically true, but didn't Primer present a workaround to this (he built a machine inside a machine so he could take one with him past the point of origin)?
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post #6 of 37
2/9/08 at 8:50am
Eh, not interested. There'll be bugs and shit they have to deal with before they get any sort of a time machine available. Hell, I'll lay even money on of these guys falls into the collider, goes back in time, and has to right wrongs and shit, while chatting with Dean Stockwell. Eventually, he or she may amke the leap home. Or not.

Wake me when we get one of these:
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post #7 of 37
2/9/08 at 2:44pm
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Originally Posted by Greg Clark View Post
Why would time travel be limited to the origin of the first time machine?
Maybe the theory has something to do with traveling through wormholes created by the machine. Or something.

I'll believe it when I see it.
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post #8 of 37
2/9/08 at 2:52pm
This is not the beginning of the time travel era.

Don't ask me how I know.
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post #9 of 37
2/9/08 at 2:53pm
Just like with everything else, the early adopters of time travel will probably get screwed.
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post #10 of 37
2/9/08 at 3:00pm
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Originally Posted by Cervaise View Post
This is not the beginning of the time travel era.

Don't ask me how I know.

Cervaise, you've been warned before about your loose lips.

Don't make me call the Council. You wanna go back to mucking out livestock stalls in medieval Poland?
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post #11 of 37
2/9/08 at 3:10pm
Wait a minute. Advancements in time travel. An evil Senator needs money to sustain their presidential campaign. Oh God, it's all happening again!
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post #12 of 37
2/9/08 at 3:56pm

DEY TOOK OUR JERBS!!
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post #13 of 37
2/9/08 at 3:57pm
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Originally Posted by Greg Clark View Post
Why would time travel be limited to the origin of the first time machine?
Maybe it's like a Stargate.
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post #14 of 37
2/9/08 at 5:12pm
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Originally Posted by Moltisanti View Post
Wait a minute. Advancements in time travel. An evil Senator needs money to sustain their presidential campaign. Oh God, it's all happening again!
I'll warn Mia Sara! You get Jean-Claude!
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post #15 of 37
2/9/08 at 5:17pm
Do these scientists not read books? This is going to kill us all! Although I am kind of looking forward to the inter dimensional zombie war that this starts.
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post #16 of 37
2/9/08 at 5:22pm
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Wait a minute. Advancements in time travel. An evil Senator needs money to sustain their presidential campaign. Oh God, it's all happening again!
Is it too late to join the force? I do a mean nearly-naked split in the kitchen.
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post #17 of 37
2/9/08 at 5:25pm
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Is it too late to join the force? I do a mean nearly-naked split in the kitchen.
Damn it Darkmite8. Now I'm wishing for the world to end to get that image out of my head.
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post #18 of 37
2/9/08 at 5:38pm
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Originally Posted by Moltisanti View Post
Wait a minute. Advancements in time travel. An evil Senator needs money to sustain their presidential campaign. Oh God, it's all happening again!
Someone kill Ron Silver before he gets a chance!

oh and Mike:




THEY TOOK MY JOB!
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post #19 of 37
2/9/08 at 5:39pm
Oh man, thank god I'm never going to have grand children, that sure sucks for you guys! Haha..aha..unggh...
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post #20 of 37
2/9/08 at 5:46pm
Wouldn't they know if it works by having someone come back now and saying, "Hey guys, it works."

And because I want to pimp it, there's already a Time Traveler out there by the name of John Titor. Check out this short documentary for explanation: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...86630&hl=en-CA
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post #21 of 37
2/9/08 at 6:28pm
So this guy might be for real?

And what's Doc Emmett Brown and Marty McFly's take on all of this?
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post #22 of 37
2/9/08 at 8:36pm
Brundlefly had better see royalties out of this or he's going to be pissed.

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post #23 of 37
2/9/08 at 11:00pm
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So this guy might be for real?

And what's Doc Emmett Brown and Marty McFly's take on all of this?
I knew I should've bet on the cubbies.
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post #24 of 37
2/9/08 at 11:18pm
"To physicists, time is what’s measured by clocks. Using this definition, we can manipulate time by changing the rate of clocks, which changes the rate at which events occur. Einstein showed that time is affected by motion, and his theories have been demonstrated experimentally by comparing time on an atomic clock that has traveled around the earth on a jet. It’s slower than a clock on earth.”

Although the jet-flying clock regained its normal pace when it landed, it never caught up with earth clocks – which means that we have a time traveler from the past among us already, even though it thinks it’s in the future.
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post #25 of 37
2/9/08 at 11:53pm
This is heavy.
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post #26 of 37
2/10/08 at 12:11am
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Originally Posted by Greg Clark View Post
Why would time travel be limited to the origin of the first time machine?
Yeah, like other people are guessing, it seems to be a consequence of using wormholes. Wikipedia's article says:

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A proposed time-travel machine using a traversable wormhole would (hypothetically) work in the following way: One end of the wormhole is accelerated to some significant fraction of the speed of light, perhaps with some advanced propulsion system, and then brought back to the point of origin. Alternatively, another way is to take one entrance of the wormhole and move it to within the gravitational field of an object that has higher gravity than the other entrance, and then return it to a position near the other entrance. For both of these methods, time dilation causes the end of the wormhole that has been moved to have aged less than the stationary end, as seen by an external observer; however, time connects differently through the wormhole than outside it, so that synchronized clocks at either end of the wormhole will always remain synchronized as seen by an observer passing through the wormhole, no matter how the two ends move around. This means that an observer entering the accelerated end would exit the stationary end when the stationary end was the same age that the accelerated end had been at the moment before entry; for example, if prior to entering the wormhole the observer noted that a clock at the accelerated end read a date of 2007 while a clock at the stationary end read 2012, then the observer would exit the stationary end when its clock also read 2007, a trip backwards in time as seen by other observers outside. One significant limitation of such a time machine is that it is only possible to go as far back in time as the initial creation of the machine;[15] in essence, it is more of a path through time than it is a device that itself moves through time, and it would not allow the technology itself to be moved backwards in time. This could provide an alternative explanation for Hawking's observation: a time machine will be built someday, but has not yet been built, so the tourists from the future cannot reach this far back in time.
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post #27 of 37
2/10/08 at 12:17am
Essentially trying to explain this shit will always result in a headache or head explosion.

That's why I agree with Timothy, just get a TARDIS.
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post #28 of 37
2/10/08 at 12:50am
When the Army of the 12 Monkeys releases all the animals in the zoo, I'm taking that as a sign to get the fuck outta Dodge.
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post #29 of 37
2/10/08 at 12:56am
Tieman,

The more important thing here is that if you see David Morse at the airport, alert the cops immediately.
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post #30 of 37
2/10/08 at 1:22am
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Cervaise, you've been warned before about your loose lips.

Don't make me call the Council. You wanna go back to mucking out livestock stalls in medieval Poland?
What the fuck is wrong with you? What part of "Be excellent to each other" didn't you understand?
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post #31 of 37
2/10/08 at 10:46am
Time travel is not possible. Plain and simple.
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post #32 of 37
2/10/08 at 11:04am
the same with faster then light travel...how sad huh
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post #33 of 37
2/10/08 at 5:37pm
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Originally Posted by JuddL View Post
Time travel is not possible. Plain and simple.
Stan Marsh would agree with you, but...

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post #34 of 37
2/10/08 at 11:23pm
Awesome.

I can imagine this Summer, someone flipping on the power switch at the LHC , and a team of Skrulls materialize out of a Kirby-esque portal, and start punching people in the face.
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post #35 of 37
2/10/08 at 11:29pm
All this time travel talk is givin' me a Large Hardon of my own.
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post #36 of 37
2/12/08 at 3:56am
I recommend Asimov's The End of Eternity to anyone remotely intrigued by this thread.
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post #37 of 37
2/12/08 at 4:41am
Oh thank fucking God this'll make shit in Lost plausible.
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