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Leviathan (1989)

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In a year when 3 aquatic based thrillers appeared (Deepstar Six, The Abyss, Leviathan) Leviathan is my clear favorite. Terribly underrated, and has great creature effects and performances by all. Weller, Crenna, Pays, and Hudson were tops. As was Daniel Stern, already sporting his "Marv" look a year ahead.

Still, it pisses me off to no end that they capped Ernie Hudson at the end of the flick. Unnecessary.
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Deepstar Six started strong at the box office; unfortunately, it had no legs.
post #3 of 54
And they killed Hudson off by sharks. They've all escaped and think they're safe, guess what, sharks. And to anyone who hasn't seen Leviathan let me point out, this is not a killer shark movie. Hilarious.
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Deepstar Six started strong at the box office; unfortunately, it had no legs.
Sure it did. Big crab legs, if I remember correctly.
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And they killed Hudson off by sharks.
Honestly, a Zedmore without a moustache has no reason to live. It's just not seemly.
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Sure it did. Big crab legs, if I remember correctly.
That guy in the BioShock suit sure didn't, though.

Hey, which was the movie where the monster follows them up to the surface and munches on one of the surviving co-stars?
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Deepstar Six started strong at the box office; unfortunately, it had no legs.
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Sure it did. Big crab legs, if I remember correctly.
I believe Minsky's referring to the scene where whatshisnuts is bitten in half. Genius Minsky....genius.

And for what it's worth, Greg Evigan gives Deep Star Six the upper hand in my book.

ETA: damn my slow computer, damn it to hell.
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Originally Posted by Rene (Mr.Eko) View Post
Terribly underrated, and has great creature effects and performances by all.
Totally agree on the creature effects. This is a surprisingly nasty movie, and a hugely fun exercise in the genre. Sure there's not an original idea in it, but at least it knows exactly what it's doing.

Decent Goldsmith score, too. Jesus that guy would score anything.
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Hey, which was the movie where the monster follows them up to the surface and munches on one of the surviving co-stars?
It's been a long time, but Leviathan I believe. Is there a decent DVD for this? I remember digging it.
post #10 of 54
None of the various "deeps" are available in HD yet (Deepstar Six, Deep Rising, Deep Blue Sea, Deep Thr...), and Leviathan sure ain't.

On the bright side, we have several versions of Ultraviolet!
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Totally agree on the creature effects. This is a surprisingly nasty movie, and a hugely fun exercise in the genre. Sure there's not an original idea in it, but at least it knows exactly what it's doing.

Decent Goldsmith score, too. Jesus that guy would score anything.
Goldsmith's score was great. The man knew his synth music as well as Carpenter.
post #12 of 54
I'm disappointed we didn't have more deep underwater films. Deepstar Six was going in the right direction. And Leviathan was too.
post #13 of 54
Agreed. There aren't enough good of them. The last being... Sphere and Deep Blue Sea?

The showdown of Leviathan.
post #14 of 54
I'll always remember Leviathan because Richard Crenna and Amanda Pays (Max Headroom) was in it.

For me, i'll take The Abyss: The Directors Cut anyday. I even bought the Novelization by Orson Scott Card.
post #15 of 54
Lisa Eilbacher was a cutie in this. What a pair indeed.

I probably watched this a dozen times before I realized she was Jenny from Beverly Hills Cop.
post #16 of 54
Ugh. It's been a long time but I remember thinking the creature in Leviathan was too generic and the dialogue was Sci-Fi Channel bad. Plus points for Weller and Col. Troutman, though.
post #17 of 54
Deep Rising with Famke Janssen isn't too bad as well.
Especially, the ending.
post #18 of 54
for classic Weller horror I will take Screamers over Leviathan.
post #19 of 54
I remember this poster coming out with (what I thought) was one of the coolest tag-lines/images ever...

HOW LONG CAN YOU HOLD YOUR BREATH?

Don't remember seeing that on the final poster...
[might be a European thing]

AHHHH!!....found it...
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Still, it pisses me off to no end that they capped Ernie Hudson at the end of the flick. Unnecessary.
To be fair, it does have Amanda Pays in a white bikini!
post #21 of 54
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Originally Posted by Rene (Mr.Eko) View Post
In a year when 3 aquatic based thrillers appeared (Deepstar Six, The Abyss, Leviathan) Leviathan is my clear favorite. Terribly underrated, and has great creature effects and performances by all. Weller, Crenna, Pays, and Hudson were tops. As was Daniel Stern, already sporting his "Marv" look a year ahead.

Still, it pisses me off to no end that they capped Ernie Hudson at the end of the flick. Unnecessary.
You're forgetting 'The Rift'.
With the great tagline..."You can't hold your breath and scream at the same time..."
Genius!!
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To be fair, it does have Amanda Pays in a white bikini!
No doubt about that. No doubt at all.
post #23 of 54
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And they killed Hudson off by sharks. They've all escaped and think they're safe, guess what, sharks. And to anyone who hasn't seen Leviathan let me point out, this is not a killer shark movie. Hilarious.

If memory serves Hudson was killed by the creature, but there were indeed sharks around at the time (they really served no purpose.) After the creature kills Winston is when Robocop gives his immortal line, "Say AHH motherfucker!"
post #24 of 54
I would've liked Samuel Jackson to say that.
post #25 of 54
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I also dug Lisa Eilbacher's line "ooooo, look at those white legs!"

Although "Say ahhhh motherfucker!" trumps all.
post #26 of 54
It's pretty much Alien Underwater, but yeah, the creature effects are nice, and what can I say, I always enjoy Ernie Hudson. But, come one...this and Deepstar Six are barely B-grade sci-fi/horror schlock. No way either of them are better than The Abyss (either cut.)
post #27 of 54
I surprised nobody has mentioned Miguel Ferrer in Deepstar Six. He played an asshole rather well.

post #28 of 54
Is this the film that had the alien egg in the hip flask of vodka? I remember reading about it in a newspaper review and thinking it had to be a misprint.
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Is this the film that had the alien egg in the hip flask of vodka? I remember reading about it in a newspaper review and thinking it had to be a misprint.
That's Leviathan.
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I surprised nobody has mentioned Miguel Ferrer in Deepstar Six. He played an asshole rather well.

His last scene pretty much put me off wanting to travel to the ocean floor and back.

That and the Diving pool person still in the diving suit monster coming up and chomping him scene (very vague, haven't seen the film since last century)

Now that i think of it, both Deepstar 6 movie and Leviathan have convinced me it is never safe to go back into the water. I does verily needith to rewatch these, to the video store!
post #31 of 54
Actually it was the poster of JAWS that gave me water phobia and nightmares even now.

I remember being a kid and I saw a large poster of JAWS was hanging at my local Cinema. It so frightened me that even today cold water and showers sometimes frighten me.
post #32 of 54
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Is this the film that had the alien egg in the hip flask of vodka? I remember reading about it in a newspaper review and thinking it had to be a misprint.
Wow. I haven't thought about this movie in a very long time.

When I was younger (12? 14?) my Minister used to get some of the kids together for activities outside normal services. We hit Six Flags, had a few retreats, that sort of thing. On one of those retreats we ended up watching this flick - and it scared the bejeezus out of me.

Sort of wish it was on dvd so I could go back and revisit it.
post #33 of 54
Of the three mentioned, Leviathan is the only one I haven't watched. Should I be ashamed of myself? I think I should be ashamed of myself...

As far as I know there's no dvd of it, making it harder for me to track that movie down.
post #34 of 54
I can't remember, but doesn't Peter Weller induct Meg Foster and her smug face into the Nation's Punched at the very end of the movie?
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As far as I know there's no dvd of it, making it harder for me to track that movie down.
You have no excuses.
http://www.deepdiscount.com/viewprod...ductId=5754678
post #36 of 54
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Deep Rising
I prefer to think of this as an unofficial sequel to Leviathan.
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Awesome...
Thanks, Peter Weller alone should make the $10 bucks worth it...

I'm still wondering why is it that this is the only movie that is mentioned so far in this thread I still haven't seen especially when you consider the cast list. Should be fixed soon.
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I can't remember, but doesn't Peter Weller induct Meg Foster and her smug face into the Nation's Punched at the very end of the movie?
I believe it's Amanda Donohue that does the punching.

Bitch deserved it since she sold out Nada if you ask me.
post #39 of 54
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No, it was Peter Weller who punched Meg Foster.
post #40 of 54
You're right. It was Amanda Pays not Donahue anyway. Double fuck. I'm way off the past couple of days.
post #41 of 54
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Originally Posted by Rene (Mr.Eko) View Post
Although "Say ahhhh motherfucker!" trumps all.
Better than Busta's "Trick or Treat, motherfucker" from Halloween 8?

Having rewatched Leviathan lately. I noticed that it it's also quite similar to another underrated boat / water / monster flick: VIRUS. Anyone seen that one? There's even a scene in it in which Donald Sutherland gives a creepy hommage to Richard Crenna becoming one with the Leviathan.
post #42 of 54
Virus was okay. Deep Rising was better though.
post #43 of 54
Leviathan doesn't deserve the love. I just rewatched it and it has aged horribly. While there are some good character moments and the cast is fun thats about it. I was really disappointed this last go-round. Crenna stole all of his scenes, wish he was in it more.

Virus is one of those movies that sucks but I still watch it from time to time on TV as background noise. But it is lousy although I do like the crazy guy who makes the personal escape rocket.
post #44 of 54
I got laid by my hot college girlfriend while watching LEVIATHAN and still thought it sucked.
post #45 of 54
I'm sorry, but I always thought that this movie was incredibly lame. The creature was totally unconvincing, the cast looked bored (especially Crenna), and the plot was totally predictable. 'Deepstar 6' was more fun, frankly.
post #46 of 54
Virus was not okay. I mean, it was pretty far from okay. It had a mecha Donald Sutherland.

At one point, Billy Baldwin or Jamie Lee Curtis shoots himself out of the ship on a missile. I may be misremembering. But the movie's only good moment was Sutherland looking annoyed at having to take a gun out of his mouth.
post #47 of 54
Deepstar Six was awesome. Especially the harpoons that made people explode from compressed air.
post #48 of 54
SAY AHHHHHH, MOTHERFUCKER!

I just got done watching this for the first time. I'm amazed that I dug the shit out of this as much as I did. You'd think RoboCop, Col. Trautman, Winston Zeddemore and others versus a gene-mutating alien that comes from a bottle of vodka would be stupid, but it isn't. Hand it to George P. Cosmatos, who also made a silly premise something very special with the underloved Of Unknown Origin with Weller, to give us an above average Alien and Thing knockoff with a Lovecraftian Stan Winston creation of beauty that looks like it came straight out of a Cronenberg movie. We also get enough deep voices (Weller, Hudson, Meg Foster, Amanda Pays) to warrant the attraction of whales, which unfortunately don't appear. Amanda Pays appears in revealing outfits more than once, giving you a hard-on and a hate-on for Corbin Bernsen. Meg Foster's eyes are as icy as her reprisal of her They Live bitch routine. Costamos uses his Rambo: First Blood Part II and Cobra magic to tie the action together, and David Webb Peoples of Blade Runner and Die Hard co-writer Jeb Stuart deliver a cool script. All in all a greatly above average B picture.
post #49 of 54
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Glad you enjoyed it, Hunter. It really is a sci-fi masterpiece, and I hold fast that it's terribly underrated. If it would have come out any other year it'd have made more money and be held in higher regard.

The amphibious mutants and the slow mutating of the crewmembers are awesome and disgusting.
post #50 of 54
Just watched this and it was pretty great. There are some serious "geography" problems on the ship during all the tunnel chases, and the movie kinda loses focus in the third act (oh no sharks??), but it was still creepy and entertaining. The quote on the back says "Alien under water" but there should be some Thing in there too.

Maybe I'll get flamed for this but I found this concept of "science gone wrong" way creepier than Splice. We tried to create a weird underwater human and the result was this slimy, body-fusing mutating creature, and everyone it sucks up is still alive inside of it! "...kill me!" is not new, but the idea of what happens to your body after you die is something that always gets under my skin in horror movies, especially if there are mutations or whatnot involved. The idea that this used to be a perfectly average human being and somehow now it's a bloody, inside-on-the-outside monster mass is very disturbing to me.

And the creature can barely be killed! I bet even Weller's bomb was unsuccessful and there are millions of little murderous chunklets creeping around the ocean floor.

I agree with Rene that Ernie Hudson should have made it. It was cheap for him to die in the sense that it should have been this perfect big scare to end the movie and yet it was sort of poorly-shot and awkward. I imagine a great slow-motion shot of him climbing into the copter and this creature just rising out of the water behind him, kinda like Friday the 13th, but instead it's these vague shots of him flailing in the water and then suddenly he's sinking. I like Weller and "Say 'ah', motherfucker!" is great but I think I'd have preferred him getting chomped or maybe making a noble sacrifice. Hudson also looks a bit quiet and ill in the water, I almost wonder if they once considered a version where they take him back to the ocean post and he Hector Elizondos all over the place, which I would have also accepted.

I'm not saying they should, but if they remake Leviathan, Lizzy Caplan should be a lock for the Amanda Pays role. I was trying to think of others and the farthest I got was Wesley Snipes taking over for Hudson.

EDIT: Looking at a recent picture of his slimmer but still beefy self, I think: John Goodman as Crenna's replacement?
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