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post #401 of 1552
2/29/08 at 3:36pm
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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
We're going by US release date. Which actually helps a lot with French films.
Wow. That statement just helped me add another pick to my list...
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post #402 of 1552
2/29/08 at 3:46pm
Starving Dog's (very nice) pick was #50. We're 1/4 to 200.
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post #403 of 1552
2/29/08 at 3:47pm
I was waiting for the shoe to drop on MEAN STREETS. That's a great pick. And, a better depiction of the reality of the mob than The Godfather movies.
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post #404 of 1552
2/29/08 at 3:47pm
Well, there have been some English movies.
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post #405 of 1552
2/29/08 at 3:47pm
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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
Is The Conformist the only foreign language film to be taken thus far? At this point in the 2000's draft we had like 10 foreign language selections already gone. I know this is America's decade and everything, but still.
It sure seems to be so far.
And I was thinking about the same when I skimmed through Rath List. But speaking for myself that has alot of "tactical" reasons. I just figure that the big and obvious US ones are way more in the focus and therefore off the table very soon. I am confident that there will be fine European and international movies sneaking into the draft soon enough, when the big guns are shot. I have quite a few European diamonds on my menue...
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post #406 of 1552
2/29/08 at 3:56pm
Thread Starter 
Please see the rules thread for a clarification on foreign films.
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post #407 of 1552
2/29/08 at 3:58pm
*Sadly crosses Godzilla vs. Megalon off his list*
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post #408 of 1552
2/29/08 at 3:59pm
Thread Starter 
I think that rule makes sense for movie snobs like us. I'm sure I know at one least one film that people would like to grab in this draft that was released in the US during this time but what was released was an edited dubbed version. How can you edit and dub the super cool? No thanks.
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post #409 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:02pm
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Originally Posted by Starving Dog
Wow. That statement just helped me add another pick to my list...
Please don't give me any credit, it'll just mean five other people blame me...

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Originally Posted by EvilTwin View Post
I was waiting for the shoe to drop on MEAN STREETS. That's a great pick. And, a better depiction of the reality of the mob than The Godfather movies.
Which sort of doesn't matter, because The Godfather is going for a different thing entirely. I love Mean Streets, I think it's the most purely Scorsese movie, though not his best. It incorporates his New York milieu, virtuoso camera work, skill with scoring movies to pop music, and major thematic concerns. "You don't make up for your sins in church, you do it on the street."
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post #410 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:02pm
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Originally Posted by Kirby Drummond View Post
I think that rule makes sense for movie snobs like us. I'm sure I know at one least one film that people would like to grab in this draft that was released in the US during this time but what was released was an edited dubbed version. How can you edit and dub the super cool? No thanks.
Shit, now I have to do research on one of mine.
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post #411 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:03pm
And Starving Dog does indeed take one of my pretty chickens (which literary reference might be a hint as to another stroming choice for someone more incluned than I.)

Damn. Good one Dog. The Last Picture Shows is such a wonderful picture and one which I was all set to pick and screen at the strax cineplex with supporting feature Targets with trailers for Red River, The Big Lebowski and Goodbye, Dragon Inn.
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post #412 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:04pm
And all of Malick is gone. Boo.

I was hoping DotD would hang out for Rusty, which he could have grabbed, but went classy. Well, stay classy Russ.
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post #413 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:08pm
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Originally Posted by Ratty View Post
Shit, now I have to do research on one of mine.
I don't want to make any rulings or all that crap so people are on the honor system. There was some debate on whether or not to even allow foreign flicks in this draft but I did allow it. But to be pure, you really should be looking at American films for the most part. But good foreign stuff obviously came out at this time. But shit that's 3, 4 years old that finally gets to America and is dubbed? You shouldn't be picking that or trying to. So don't.
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post #414 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:09pm
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Ooo, The Elephant Man. I wanted that.
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post #415 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:11pm
I never had a beef with you, Molt. I've always thought you were plucky and endearing with your Dolph Lundgren references and STONE COLD worship. We got along fine for a while there, you and me.

BUT NOW YOU WILL DIE.
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post #416 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:12pm
Yeah, I'm totally missing the boat on the 69 and 80 films. I would have taken The Elephant Man in a second.
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post #417 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:13pm
Sorry Banks, this is the comedy I wanted. It's my favorite of the draftable era. I've got a long gap between my 2nd and 3rd pick. Had to do it.
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post #418 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:15pm
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Originally Posted by Kirby Drummond View Post
I don't want to make any rulings or all that crap so people are on the honor system. There was some debate on whether or not to even allow foreign flicks in this draft but I did allow it. But to be pure, you really should be looking at American films for the most part. But good foreign stuff obviously came out at this time. But shit that's 3, 4 years old that finally gets to America and is dubbed? You shouldn't be picking that or trying to. So don't.

So wait, I can't get another Melville based on a release date technicality? Kidding. The line of reasoning makes perfect sense.
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post #419 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:15pm
Airplane! hurts. Hurts bad.
But i'm glad it went on second round. It's deserved.

A lot of comedies are being taken.
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post #420 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:18pm
Tons of great comedies remain. Tons.
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post #421 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:19pm
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Originally Posted by Moltisanti View Post
Sorry Banks, this is the comedy I wanted. It's my favorite of the draftable era. I've got a long gap between my 2nd and 3rd pick. Had to do it.
At least Strax gets a reprieve. For now. Fuck you.

You know, fuck you, I would've picked it over probably, say, fuck you, 90% of what's, fuck you, been chosen, fuck you, so far.
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post #422 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:20pm
Honestly, I was all set to take it yesterday. The film's gags-to-shots ratio is astonishing.
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post #423 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:21pm
In doing my research, I've been putting down possible selections, and finding that most of them are comedies.

Am I thinking correctly, that there's an abundance of comedies in the seventies, that were actually funny, as compared to today? Or am I looking thru rose-colored disco goggles?
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post #424 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:23pm
One comedy barely comes under the wire by a few months. Anybody takes it, I'm taking their head.
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post #425 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:24pm
It's on my radar. Though i doubt it lasts till tuesday.
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post #426 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:25pm
There were certainly some grand comedies in the seventies. Several of them you can have an "oh yeah" moment, because they're not talked about today like some of their contemporaries.

It was a grand time for filmmaking across the board, across the genres. I really don't see anybody scrambling for late round picks unless they just haven't seen that many movies from the period.

Sheesh, there are plenty of juggernauts still on the board that were definitely first round material. I keep expecting others to pick them, but there is such a wealth of wonderful, wonderful films.
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post #427 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:25pm
Yeah, I had Airplane sitting there, hoping the 70s mindset would keep people from looking at '69 and '80. I still have some (what I hope are) lurkers from those years on my list, let's hope they last until Tuesday.
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post #428 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:27pm
Looks like I picked the wrong week to wait until the third round to pick Airplane!
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post #429 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:28pm
I'm sure you'll get Oveur it.
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post #430 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:33pm
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I'm sure you'll get Oveur it.
Pretend rep to you, sir.
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post #431 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:41pm
'tis the nature of my beast, I'm more of a Top Secret kind of guy. I'm more jealous of the Slap Shot grab, and I hope your sons grow up to be faggots.
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post #432 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:41pm
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Originally Posted by Justin Clark View Post
One comedy barely comes under the wire by a few months. Anybody takes it, I'm taking their head.
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Originally Posted by Tati View Post
It's on my radar. Though i doubt it lasts till tuesday.
If you guy's are talking about what I think you're talking about, we're going to have a real bloodbath come Wednesday morning. Why'd both of you have to be in the same timeslot as me?
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post #433 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:45pm
It won't last.
If it does, I'll post at 6 am if i have to.
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post #434 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:47pm
Ratty! Bitch! That was the comedy I wanted. I am starting to get the feeling my remaining first tier movies will be gone come Tuesday.
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post #435 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:48pm
Slap Shot is, thus far, the most disappointing loss for me. I thought I had a real shot at it later rather than sooner.

I'm picking twice before Wednesday morning. Kiss it goodbye.
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post #436 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:49pm
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Originally Posted by Kevin K
If you guy's are talking about what I think you're talking about, we're going to have a real bloodbath come Wednesday morning. Why'd both of you have to be in the same timeslot as me?
I'm wary of dropping it that early, though. I'm more worried about my number one and two action movie picks getting played before Wednesday. They're not my true next choice, but I just know my three main remaining dramas will be gone by Monday.
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post #437 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:56pm
Broken record here, but losing out on one masterpiece in this draft leaves open forty to fifty you're forgetting about. This may be a boring ass draft. Too many good movies.

How am I going to argue about The Last Picture Show or Slap Shot?
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post #438 of 1552
2/29/08 at 4:59pm
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Originally Posted by Andre Dellamorte View Post
'tis the nature of my beast, I'm more of a Top Secret kind of guy. I'm more jealous of the Slap Shot grab, and I hope your sons grow up to be faggots.

You can make a case that, apart from some Woody Allen films, Slap Shot is one of the few great comedies that seems to take place in the real world. The threat of unemployment, bitter divorce and personal failure hangs over this film like a cloud and that makes the humor richer.
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post #439 of 1552
2/29/08 at 5:15pm
Dickson and Don were a one-two punch to my potentials for today. American Graffiti's in my all-time top five, and Mean Streets is a stunning, amazing movie. I'm glad somebody got them.
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post #440 of 1552
2/29/08 at 5:30pm
If you count Empire, Lucas has four films picked. He's done, of course, but for all the crap he takes for his later career, four picks in the first two rounds in this era isn't too bad (and Graffiti could have easily been a first rounder in my book).
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post #441 of 1552
2/29/08 at 5:34pm
Outside the period, he has nothing worthy of a pick though. Unless you give him Indy, and you shouldn't.
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post #442 of 1552
2/29/08 at 5:36pm
I give Lucas a lot of credit for his films and impact on the industry until the 80's.

It's after that i turn on him.
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post #443 of 1552
2/29/08 at 5:41pm
I just expected there to be a lot of retconning given current opinion of him.
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post #444 of 1552
2/29/08 at 5:54pm
I would say that if the prequels had never been made, or if they'd been good, Star Wars and Empire are the first two movies to go. But that said, his 70s films were awesome, and you can't take it that from him.
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post #445 of 1552
2/29/08 at 6:56pm
I don't think there's any question of that. And I'm not sure 'retconning' is the word we're looking for, since that would imply the re-framing of old arguments that he was never any good. 'Backtracking' would be more accurate since it's easy to dismiss him as a hack based soley upon his recent output.

It's worth it, though, to dig up contemporary reviews of Star Wars and see how it was initially perceived. A lot of folks, expecting hardcore sci-fi, dismissed it as cartoony and superficial and they weren't exactly wrong. What they didn't recognize was what Lucas was going for by combining thematic simplicity with audio-visual complexity.
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post #446 of 1552
2/29/08 at 7:09pm
If it was Dickson, me, Russ, Kirby and Dan, yes you could be safe with the Lucas, but that ain't gonna happen otherwise.

Blunt, you're an asshole. I was hoping that would be my Swan Song. WOKKA WOKKA WOKKA.
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post #447 of 1552
2/29/08 at 7:09pm
It's cartoony and superficial. That's not to say I don't like it, afterall I'm human. But I don't see it as anything more than a really good piece of entertainment with a nice group of characters to root for and against.

I understand why it was taken when it was, for better or worse it spawned a cultural craze that still lives on today. But as a movie itself, I don't see much more than pulpy fun.
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post #448 of 1552
2/29/08 at 7:11pm
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? Nostalgia, ruiner of taste. Last round pick.
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post #449 of 1552
2/29/08 at 7:12pm
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Originally Posted by Andre Dellamorte View Post
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? Nostalgia, ruiner of taste. Last round pick.
There's no Charlie and the Chocolate Factory here sir. And no nostalgia involved.
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post #450 of 1552
2/29/08 at 7:13pm
I suddenly don't feel guilty about my pick.
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