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The Beach Boys after Pet Sounds

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Everyone with taste acknowledges Pet Sounds as the masterpiece that it is. It is a touchstone album, no doubt. I just think they made like six great albums after Pet Sounds. They just don't get the any of the love Pet Sounds does. They are all treated like abortive works because Smile didn't come out. They weren't, and the songs are almost uniformly great. I mean shit Friends, Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, 20/20, Sunflower, Surf's Up...they are all great. I know Brian was weirding out, but Carl was pretty fucking great himself. The Beach Boys didn't stop making music after Pet Sounds and the Smile sessions.

Edit to say: Am I wrong? Is this a straw man?
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Im not sure where your coming from completely, but I will say this, Brian, despite the other talented members within the band, was the creative beating heart of that group and when he started flipping out and living in his bed it became pretty hard for The Beach Boys as a creative entitiy

Yeah there was some top songs here and there but it didn't flow like it should have because Brian wasn't given the opportunity to grow as a musical artist like he should have.

...and lets not forget these boys had to watch not just the musical soul of the band but their beloved brother lose his shit indefinetly and maybe not come back from that, thats got to effect your artistic output on all sorts of levels.
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I absolutely love the Beach Boys 70s output. That was the first Beach Boys stuff I listened to first and it is still my favorite, other than Pet Sounds and Surfer Girl. I probably would have started this exact thread at some point but you beat me to it, Luxury-Yacht.

Brian ending Surf's Up with three great songs, Johnston's Disney Girls (1957), they are all great; I even like the silly "Take A Load Off Your Feet". And how can someone not enjoy "Make It Good" from Carl and the Passions.

Sure, they never topped their masterpiece but it's hard for me to see how their work at this time can be so underrated. Dennis Wilson's Pacific Ocean Blues, while not perfect is still a great listen and it's due for a re-issue soon.
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I haven't heard all of these, but I've heard a pretty fair share. None of them quite stack up to Pet Sounds (few albums do), but there are a bunch of great songs on this weirdly ignored, yet surprisingly prolific, period. Surf's Up and Friends are probably my favorites of the bunch, but I have to admit to owning Carl and the Passions and Holland without having really listened to them more than once or twice each.

Their career arc is pretty fascinating and unique. They're still probably best-known among mainstream listeners for the early, Chuck Berry-aping stuff up through their first big moves toward the experimental with Pet Sounds and "Good Vibrations" and later embarassments like "Kokomo." Somewhat more informed rock listeners will just talk your ear off about Pet Sounds and Smile, as if the stuff before was negligible and the stuff after was nonexistent. Then there's this other audience that's discovered the post-Pet Sounds/Smile 60s and 70s era and (justifiably, I'd argue) approach these recordings almost as if one would approach a forgotten cult artist.

It's like they're three acts in one - the populist surf-rock band that would eventually record "Kokomo" and hit the oldies circuit with Mike Love in charge, the Brian Wilson vehicle that helped him create one masterpiece and one pseudo-masterpiece (I'm not as big on Smile as some are), and a collaborative, forgotten 70s underground pop act (though probably the biggest-selling underground pop act ever due to the fans who stuck with them).
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