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post #101 of 1298
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Originally Posted by Chris Hill View Post
My favorite sequence in the films follows what Indy believes is Marion's death in Raiders. He's sitting around getting liquored up, and then has that conversation with Bellocq in the cantina.

As an adult it leaves a different impression upon me than it did as a child. He's depressed and drunk, and that didn't really sink in so much when I was little. Also, I like it because it represents the earlier, tougher take on Indy. By the third film I wouldn't have been surprised if he were a professed teetotaler.
That's well-observed, and I think you've helped me locate the reason I'm not looking forward to Indiana Jones and the Flash Bulb Emergency Overflow Cavalcade of Remixes; the "Free Hat" effect.

Last Crusade and Young Indy don't have quite the same mild sleaziness that runs so richly through the first two movies, and I don't see any way the new film won't be similarly cuddly and frustrating (For example, why is Ray Winstone in the movie? He's not going to be able to call anybody a cunt! He's not even going to call anybody a toerag!).
post #102 of 1298
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Originally Posted by LatinoInferno View Post
940 postings aint real?

What is this website, VIDEODROME? Am I not really typing this posting, but getting beaten and killed in a televised snuff event?
When he reaches 1,000 posts he'll become a real boy. Or the world will be plunged into darkness.
post #103 of 1298

other good trilogies

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Originally Posted by Sharpel007 View Post
Someone mentioned this is the only solid all the way through Trilogy while I agree Indy is, I would add Back To Future to that elite club, although both are highly subject to personal opinion on being in that club. That being said I find it interesting to compare and contrast the similarities between the first and second movies of each trilogy and how each dealt success, and how each went different routes in their third act.
One other I'd add to the list, as a trilogy, are the first 3 Alien films. If you completely forget about Alien: Resurrection and the 2 AVP ones, the first three make quite a good set.
Especially Alien 3, which I don't think gets half the credit it deserves. There were some good characters (particularly Charles S. Dutton's) and some great lines. One of my all-time favorites was :

Ripley "Why do you guys all call him 'Eight-Seven'".
Unnamed Inmate "It's his IQ."

Just my 2 cents on the matter.

Joshua
post #104 of 1298
87...85...what are a couple IQ points, right?
post #105 of 1298
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Originally Posted by Litmus Configuration View Post
87...85...what are a couple IQ points, right?
...and wasn't that "Pete 'Motherfuckin' Postlethwaite" as "David"?
Unnamed indeed!!
post #106 of 1298
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Originally Posted by Graham View Post
...and wasn't that "Pete 'Motherfuckin' Postlethwaite" as "David"?
Unnamed indeed!!
And don't forget that 85 was the guy who played Ric "Iceman" Olie from The Phantom Menace.

(And I know making a Star Wars prequel reference is like playing with nuclear waste around here. Not my intention to derail things into a OT Vs. PT argument, which is the crack cocaine of the online community.)
post #107 of 1298
My top 5 Indy moments:

1. Raiders swordsman - as has been noted, just simply badass
2. "No ticket!" in Crusade - priceless
3. Indy's return in ToD, specifically the silhouette shot where two guards run offscreen to fight. Then you hear punches land and the guards slide back into frame unconscious.
4. the entire bugroom sequence in ToD, especially Indy shaking his fist through the hole and the disgusted look on his face when the door finally does open.
5. Flying Wing fight in Raiders - from Indy's slow 'gimme a second' climb
down, his seeming disinterest, looking at his shoes, and finally that little smile he makes (right he before he covers up) as he realizes what's about to happen to his Nazi friend.
post #108 of 1298
Guys, check out the main indy site, they've posted a TV spot...

And I must say the beginning of it is very Temple of Doomish.
post #109 of 1298
just wish it was longer and it showed more scenes from the film we have yet to see..
post #110 of 1298
That little smirk on Harrison's face at the beginning put a shit-eating grin on my face, I'll admit, but other than that moment, it's the same shit I've seen in the trailer. Nothing to get too worked up over.
post #111 of 1298
Yeah not much new footage there but the music seems to "flow" better than the first trailer. And the smirk is pretty cool.
post #112 of 1298
Randomly caught the tail end of a new trailer/tv-spot on Fox last night while flipping channels. I find it curious that there's a new spot out there, and I can't find a single mention of it anywhere, or anyone else that saw it, for that matter. Aren't people usually all over this type of thing? Anyone here catch it?
post #113 of 1298
I caught a new TV spot that seemed like about a minute long. Lots of running, couldn't really get a lock on anything specific. Looks really good though.

There is one shot where Spalko tells Indy: "You will find it for me."

I assume she's talking about the ark. They appear to be standing in front of a warehouse.
post #114 of 1298
Some amusing (in retrospect) comments about doing a fourth Indy movie in the following vintage TODAY show pieces on LAST CRUSADE, circa 1989:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29EITmGADFk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKA_OSaF99g

And wow, I forgot what a supremely condescending asshole Bryant Gumbel is, especially with Alison Doody.
post #115 of 1298
"Since yours is not a name known to anyone watching, it begs the question; how did you get this?"

Jesus, what a dick.

Also, a shitty version of the second tv-spot has popped up on youtube. Probably worth waiting for a version where someone isn't filming their television, but here's the link if anyone's curious.
post #116 of 1298
Watched Raiders yesterday for the first time in maybe five years or something. I'd forgotten how fast paced it was, it just races along and yet all the scenes are shot in the pre-MTV generation style, they're lovingly long enough to admire whats happening on screen. Also loved the shadow shots sprinkled throughout the film and was trying to come up with a theory of it only occuring when Indy is doing something dubious, thus referencing Belloq's 'shadowy reflection' comment, but this theory couldnt remain consistent (i.e - the "what truck!?" scene doesnt show Indy do anything wrong really)

I also had forgotten that Belloq's head explodes.
post #117 of 1298
Anybody know what those new special edition DVD's have that makes them just so special?
post #118 of 1298
It continues the annoying as fuck trend of calling it "Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark"?
post #119 of 1298
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Originally Posted by Syd View Post
Anybody know what those new special edition DVD's have that makes them just so special?
I'm watching them right now, and the answer is nothing. Just some short featurettes that don't tell you anything the previous releases documentary didn't already. The interviews are taken on the set of Crystal Skull, that's what makes them 'new' I guess, even though there isn't much 'new' stuff said.
post #120 of 1298
Damn, was hoping for commentary or some such thing. Thanks for sparing me a bad purchase, Gabe!
post #121 of 1298
No problem my friend. There'll probably be a better edition (Blu-Ray?) to coincide with the video release of Crystal Skull, Paramount is getting really bad about these re-releases.
post #122 of 1298
Hate: Indy and Ilsa's first conversation. Maybe it was supposed to be an homage to the fast-talkin' '30s, but neither Ford nor Doody (especially Doody) seem to have a feel for it and it takes me right out.

Annoyed at: "Don't you get it?" in the library, Last Crusade. Too dipshitty for Indy. Also takes me out.

Everything else is gold. Well, except the tapestries scene, but I don't want to kick 'em when they're down.
post #123 of 1298
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Originally Posted by Syd View Post
Damn, was hoping for commentary or some such thing. Thanks for sparing me a bad purchase, Gabe!
Hoping for commentary on any Spielberg movie is like hoping Scarlett Johannson will magically be in your bed tonight. It's just not gonna happen.
post #124 of 1298
Does that mean Ryan Reynolds gets to enjoy Spielberg's scene-by-scene thoughts on THE TERMINAL? Awesome!
post #125 of 1298
Rewatched RAIDERS last night. It just gets everything right. I love all the mini-reveals:

- Indy in silhouette or out of frame, until the whip intro!

- Alfred Molina turning to show all the spiders on his back (but Indy's looking away).

- The guy collapses, then you see the hundred darts in his back (HA! but the natives suddenly have Stormtrooper aim when they're after Indy).

- The use of Indy's iconic shadow when he reunites with Marion.

- The ugly-as-sin guy with the knife you gets wacked with the frying pan offscreen, and then falls through the doorway.

- The coat hanger.

etc etc etc etc


*I would love to know how the "shaft of light activated" booby trap actually works. Anyone have a guess?
post #126 of 1298
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
Indy in silhouette or out of frame, until the whip intro!
Without a doubt, this is my all time favorite introduction of a character. Absolutely iconic.
post #127 of 1298
Thread Starter 


Still think that's one of my favourite shots from the film.
post #128 of 1298
The movie just constantly surprises you with information. Whether it's humor-related or suspense-related. The timing of each "gag" is impeccable. It constantly keeps you on your toes from start to finish. Indy is always finding himself "outta the frying pan and into the fire" in a series of one-upping. John Williams' score is firing on all cylinders: playful when it needs to be, reverent, scary, bolstering, etc.

People may argue that CITIZEN KANE, CASABLANCA, or GONE WITH THE WIND is the best movie ever. But for me, RAIDERS, never fails to entertain the hell outta me.
post #129 of 1298
There was a period (i.e. as a little kid) where I watched Raiders every.day. and it never got old.

Imo, you'll never find a better example of pop entertainment.
post #130 of 1298
I rewatched the entire trilogy a few weeks ago and I know objectively Raiders is the best, but Doom will always remain my personal favourite. I watched it a billion times as a kid and revisiting it for the first time in what feels like ten years, it felt good. Unlike Crusade, not one scene is wasted or worth skipping. (as I rewatched Crusade I couldnt believe how many boring moments there were, whereas exposition in Doom involved monkey brains and snake surprise, in Crusade there's just a crusty dude lecturing Indy in his office. And thats it.)

Temple of Doom has a lot of iconic Indy moments, I have this probably incorrect notion that Doom...not so much solidified, but opened up Indy to world pop culture in a way Raiders didnt, this movie seems to have Indy in way more scenarios or moods than any of the others. I think in Turkey and Cyprus, Doom is the Indy movie aired the most on TV, and even in the UK I seem to remember seeing Doom aired more than the others.

Temple of Doom also has the best usage of the whip (for when you want a woman to shut the hell up and kiss you), best booby-trap ("We.Are.Going.To.Die!") and best awkward getaway technique for a bad guy (Molo Ram has to literally lie down on the floor and let a trapdoor whisk him away to safety). I almost prefer the music in Doom to the others too, it feels more bombastic. That shot of Indy on the bridge is what comes to my mind when someone says "Indiana Jones".

I absolutely love every frame of this crazy film, and Indy, Willie and Short Round remain for me the most strangest and quirky threesome of cinema. The campside poker game between Indy and Short Round brought back so many memories of my childhood and just fills me with glee, especially when Indy discovers cards in the kid's sleeves and the kid just breaks out a grin.

As for Crusade, I dont have hate for it like others do, how can you hate an Indy movie!? I love Indy's origin too, very cool. As I said above though, there's less creativity on display in the storytelling, that damn scene where Indy learns about the tablet and his father is so boring.
post #131 of 1298
I don't get the hate for Crusade either. I still love the hell out of it, despite its shortcomings. And come on, "I should have mailed it to the Marx Brothers" is a fucking awesome line.

Admit it. Everyone wants to see Indiana Jones and the Bowl of Duck Soup.
post #132 of 1298
I used to hate the end of Crusade ... how long has that knight been coped up in isolation? 1000 years? More? Yet he's not batshit insane and manages to speak a version of English everyone can understand.

I've since reconciled that issue and have grown to like Crusade a lot.
post #133 of 1298
Pairing Ford up with Connery was genius casting. Indy's dad's disdainful looks everytime Indy takes out a bad guy is just hilarious.
post #134 of 1298
I always chuckle a little bit when Jones, Sr. spouts out "Look what you did!" when Indy guns down the Nazis in the castle. I think Williams' score helps to emphasize that bit of dialog.

It's a shame Connery didn't come back for this one, even if it were only for a brief scene. I though he and Ford had pretty palpable chemistry.

And no one can pronounce Charlemagne like Connery.
post #135 of 1298
Always loved this from Last Crusade...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItxPG...page=1&t=t&f=b

That and the "leap of faith" steps.
post #136 of 1298
It may be schmaltz, but it is the best goddamn schmaltz ever.
post #137 of 1298
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Originally Posted by McMeatbag View Post
I always chuckle a little bit when Jones, Sr. spouts out "Look what you did!" when Indy guns down the Nazis in the castle.
That line always comes out when someone I know fucks something up. Always more emphasis on the second "I can't believe what you did" though.
post #138 of 1298
I'm going to India next month, and so I popped in Temple of Doom the other day (yes, I know thats not the experience I should expect).

I had recollections of the "annoying sidekick kid" and "whiny diva lady," but it works as pure pulp adventure because as someone pointed out in the "post release" thread, their such an unlikely trio.

Doom is nothing but pure fun.
post #139 of 1298
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Originally Posted by FilmNerdJamie View Post
Always loved this from Last Crusade...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItxPG...page=1&t=t&f=b
YES. YES. YES.
post #140 of 1298
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Originally Posted by Junior View Post
Hate: Indy and Ilsa's first conversation. Maybe it was supposed to be an homage to the fast-talkin' '30s, but neither Ford nor Doody (especially Doody) seem to have a feel for it and it takes me right out.
Yeah, but I think that's the point -- she's heard all these lines before, Indy's not very good at them, and Marcus takes the piss right out of the whole affair with the way he interrupts.
post #141 of 1298
"You have your father's eyes."
"And my mother's ears. And my dog's name. And some guy's hat. And this whip I stole from a circus train. But the rest belongs to you."
post #142 of 1298
Fuck those new DVD sets released yesterday. The Adventures of Indiana Jones DVD collection (i.e. the set from a few years back) is still available on amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Adventures-Ind...0768104&sr=1-1

As a matter of fact, I bought that yesterday afternoon after work for some good friends of mine's little boys (i.e. aged 2 and 3). They're going to eat those movies up. Can't wait to see their reaction to Raiders.
post #143 of 1298
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Originally Posted by FilmNerdJamie View Post
As a matter of fact, I bought that yesterday afternoon after work for some good friends of mine's little boys (i.e. aged 2 and 3). They're going to eat those movies up. Can't wait to see their reaction to Raiders.
Uhm, terror?

Naw, they'll love it, just like I did at 3. But the melting faces gave me nightmares. Good nightmares.
post #144 of 1298
I'm thinking they will be re-enacting the opening of the Ark while they watch it actually being opened.

Who knew tots could be so meta?
post #145 of 1298
I have a feeling they'll love the Indy films as much as we did when we were little...

Not to suggest that we still don't, mind you. I can't begin to describe how much I love Raiders of the Lost Ark and the film series in general.
post #146 of 1298
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Originally Posted by FilmNerdJamie View Post
I have a feeling they'll love the Indy films as much as we did when we were little...
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2 and 3?
Prepare to be disappointed.
post #147 of 1298
In responding to a post regarding the importance/unimportance of the MacGuffin in the Indy movies (The Ark, the Sankara Stones, the Holy Grail and now the Crystal Skull(s)(skeletons)(merged alien being)(temple/spaceship)) over in the CRYSTAL SKULL post-release thread, I got to wondering, if the villains of each movie had beaten Indy and gained control over the various artifacts, how would they go about using it in a real world scenario? It's one thing to say that the Nazis would be able to rule the world with the Ark, or make their armies unstoppable with the Grail, or whatever. But how would they actually make that plan work?

I'm imagining a huge-ass line of Nazi troops all waiting, like at an ATM, to take a sip of water from a single holy cup so that they can go out and fight without getting killed (oh wait, the Great Seal in the Grail Temple kills that plan.) Or Nazi soldiers with blinders on, with the Ark on a flatbed, just kind of driving around, hoping the Ark's spirits behave and melt/shrivel/explode the heads of their enemies as they drive by. And I have no idea what the fuck Mola Ram is going to do with his "good luck rock" collection.

I don't think our beloved Indy villains have really thought things through here...
post #148 of 1298
No Last Crusade love? You....bastard!
post #149 of 1298
No, I meant a two year old and a three year old won't like RAIDERS.
post #150 of 1298
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Originally Posted by Litmus Configuration View Post
And I have no idea what the fuck Mola Ram is going to do with his "good luck rock" collection.
Well, first the Hebrew god will fall. Then the Christian god will be cast down. Then Kali will pretty much rule the world.
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