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post #1251 of 1298
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Originally Posted by FatherDude View Post

And let's face it, Indy's canon isn't exactly air-tight.

Which is why I kinda hope they don't literally reboot it because that would be kind of pointless, given the episodic nature of the series. Just set it in 1930something and you're good to go.
post #1252 of 1298

They should do Indy's adventures in WWII.  I'd pay to see that.

post #1253 of 1298

Pratt is kinda baby faced.  So you could set his first adventure in like 1929.  In fact, if you are going to introduce Pratt:  it would make sense that it may be his first adventure as Indy as a grown man.  

 

Remember, Indy is close to 40 when we meet him in Raiders...

 

Unless, they go with some fountain of youth conceit.  

post #1254 of 1298

Throw in a Cap cameo... is Indy Star Lord's pop-pop?
 

post #1255 of 1298

Still, I don't think Pratt is the right guy for this...

post #1256 of 1298
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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
 

Throw in a Cap cameo... is Indy Star Lord's pop-pop?
 

 

The fact that you call it pop-pop tells me you're not ready for a reboot.

post #1257 of 1298

Wait aren't "Indy's adventures in WWII" Raiders and Last Crusade?

post #1258 of 1298
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Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post
 

Wait aren't "Indy's adventures in WWII" Raiders and Last Crusade?


Technically no.  Both movies take place in 36 and 38.  Its the build up to WWII.  But the war didn't actually kick off till 39....

 

We actually haven't had a single Indiana Jones movie take place in the 40's...

post #1259 of 1298

Was there a moment when Nikolaj Coster Waldau was mentioned for Indy? and that went away?

Too bad.

post #1260 of 1298
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Originally Posted by Chief Hallorhan View Post
 

Was there a moment when Nikolaj Coster Waldau was mentioned for Indy? and that went away?

Too bad.


He is certainly handsome enough.  But I don't know if he has that midwestern all-american male swagger/ruggedness down.  Only a very specific type of actor can nail that imo...

 

He does have the sly aristocratic element to him though.  I can certainly picture him as an intellectual.  

post #1261 of 1298

Not to come off as too overly nationalistic:   I really think the role should go to an american actor(at least for this iteration).  

post #1262 of 1298
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Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post
 

Wait aren't "Indy's adventures in WWII" Raiders and Last Crusade?

 

He participated in the war throughout the 40s as per Young Indy and other expanded universe entries.  This was also acknowledged in a perfunctory way in Crystal Skull.  This is a fertile and completely untapped period for the film franchise.

post #1263 of 1298
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Originally Posted by FatherDude View Post
 

 

He participated in the war throughout the 40s as per Young Indy and other expanded universe entries.  This was also acknowledged in a perfunctory way in Crystal Skull.  This is a fertile and completely untapped period for the film franchise.


It would be odd though to introduce a young looking actor(like Pratt)in that period in Indy's life.  Need a guy at least in his 40's(who actually looks it).

post #1264 of 1298
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Originally Posted by Ruckuss Zuckuss View Post
 

Pratt is kinda baby faced.  So you could set his first adventure in like 1929.  In fact, if you are going to introduce Pratt:  it would make sense that it may be his first adventure as Indy as a grown man.  

 

 

If this turns into Indy trying to fuck 16 year old Marion, it could get weird indeed.

post #1265 of 1298

#NotAllIndys

post #1266 of 1298
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Originally Posted by Ruckuss Zuckuss View Post
 

Not to come off as too overly nationalistic:   I really think the role should go to an american actor(at least for this iteration).  

Do people still think like this??? 

Even after BATMAN, SUPERMAN, SPIDERMAN and ABRAHAM FRICKIN LINCOLN?  Huh.... 

 

Maybe you're right.  Nuthin's more Amurican than Marty McFly and Captain Kirk.

post #1267 of 1298

Christopher Reeve was American.


 

post #1268 of 1298

Are you perhaps confusing him with STEELMAN?

post #1269 of 1298
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Originally Posted by Chief Hallorhan View Post
 

Do people still think like this??? 

Even after BATMAN, SUPERMAN, SPIDERMAN and ABRAHAM FRICKIN LINCOLN?  Huh.... 

 

Maybe you're right.  Nuthin's more Amurican than Marty McFly and Captain Kirk.


It's not even an American thing.  I don't want an American actor to play James Bond.  Indiana Jones is the American version of that.  So it seems only fitting.  

 

I never said it should ALWAYS remain that way.  Just for at least the next iteration.  

post #1270 of 1298

Who should play Shia LaBeouf in the next one?

post #1271 of 1298
Jaden Smith
post #1272 of 1298
Crap, was just gonna post Jaden's name. But really, there are is likely plenty of flippant, ego driven, tone deaf young male Hollywood douchery to go around.
post #1273 of 1298

There's no reason to include Mutt or Marion.  If the movie has an Old Indy timeline, have him already overseas, Temple of Doom style, safely away from his family.  He can acknowledge that they're okay and move on to better sidekicks.

post #1274 of 1298
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Originally Posted by FatherDude View Post

There's no reason to include Mutt or Marion.  If the movie has an Old Indy timeline, have him already overseas, Temple of Doom style, safely away from his family.  He can acknowledge that they're okay and move on to better sidekicks.

Indiana Jones: The Dark Rise of Short Round
post #1275 of 1298
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Indiana Jones: The Dark Rise of Short Round

 

FAN THEORY:  Short Round, haunted by his experience with the Thuggee, slowly drifts into a life of crime, eventually taking the name Hanoi Xan....

post #1276 of 1298
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If this turns into Indy trying to fuck 16 year old Marion, it could get weird indeed.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7dsVYswSfow
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post #1278 of 1298
It'll be curious how this turns out without Lucas.
post #1279 of 1298

I submitted as scoop btw. (In case the mods get pissed...)

post #1280 of 1298
I...Jones to see how IJ5 happens with a...77 year old Ford!
post #1281 of 1298

Maybe the entire movie can be filmed using the same de-ageing technology they used on Michael Douglas for that one scene in Ant Man.

post #1282 of 1298
Wouldn't be shocked if they did just that. That would be something.
post #1283 of 1298
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Originally Posted by Mr. Stockslivevan View Post

It'll be curious how this turns out without Lucas.


I'm more curious to see what era they set it in.  If they don't go the de-aging route:  Your talking an indiana Jones film in the 1970's.  

 

Kinda hoping its a "passing of the torch" type of film.  But my guess is that next Indiana Jones is probably not going to share screen time with Harrison.  Probably too distracting.  

post #1284 of 1298
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Originally Posted by Ruckuss Zuckuss View Post
 


I'm more curious to see what era they set it in.  If they don't go the de-aging route:  Your talking an indiana Jones film in the 1970's.  

 

Theoretically, they could set the thing in 1959 if they wanted to.  I don't think asking us to see Indy in his 60s is beyond the pale.  Really though, I think the era will be less of a distraction of they set none of the movie in the U.S.  They should keep Indy overseas (a la TEMPLE) and it would be particularly wise to put him in timeless-looking geographies, like mountains or ruins.  Y'know, places an archeologist is apt to go.

 

De-aging Ford seems pointless.  They should embrace it.  The fallibility of Indy has always been part of his identity, and it doesn't get more fallible than getting old.  Make his mortality an asset.

post #1285 of 1298
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Originally Posted by FatherDude View Post
 

 

Theoretically, they could set the thing in 1959 if they wanted to.  I don't think asking us to see Indy in his 60s is beyond the pale.  Really though, I think the era will be less of a distraction of they set none of the movie in the U.S.  They should keep Indy overseas (a la TEMPLE) and it would be particularly wise to put him in timeless-looking geographies, like mountains or ruins.  Y'know, places an archeologist is apt to go.

 

De-aging Ford seems pointless.  They should embrace it.  The fallibility of Indy has always been part of his identity, and it doesn't get more fallible than getting old.  Make his mortality an asset.


Oh I got a feeling this story is going to be the old "coming out of retirement" type of film.  Professor Jones is actually acting like a real professor for the twilight of his life(he is probably like Marcus at this point).  A student of his gets in trouble in some foreign land and Indiana Jones is back for one last hurrah.  

post #1286 of 1298

Set it in '75, '76. Indy can be running around Tunisia and bump into some kids making a space movie.

post #1287 of 1298

I kinda hope it's set in the 70s, Indy has alzheimer's and sets out on one last adventure thinking he's still in his prime fighting Nazis when in reality he's walking around Washington punching random people in the face. It ends with Indy killing Nixon who he thinks is Hitler.

 

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Originally Posted by FatherDude View Post

 

De-aging Ford seems pointless.  They should embrace it.  The fallibility of Indy has always been part of his identity, and it doesn't get more fallible than getting old.  Make his mortality an asset.

 

Agreed. That's what makes this series interesting is that Harrison Ford ages with his character (ala Rocky). And Ford doesn't look that much different (if at all) than he did in the fourth film.

post #1288 of 1298

It will be interesting to see the Harrison Ford Indy saga bookended by bowel incontinence.

post #1289 of 1298

Can't wait to see what hijinks Mutt gets into!

post #1290 of 1298
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Originally Posted by User_32 View Post
 

I kinda hope it's set in the 70s, Indy has alzheimer's and sets out on one last adventure thinking he's still in his prime fighting Nazis when in reality he's walking around Washington punching random people in the face. It ends with Indy killing Nixon who he thinks is Hitler.


Indy meets Lookwell?

post #1291 of 1298

Dear George,

I have the idea.

 

"Raiders of the Holy Cross"

 

Begins off the coast of Indonesia, 1970, we see a helicopter piloted by Jud Hardaker, a scruffy fifty-odd WW2 vet from Louisiana, with him is Chris Watson, a late-twenties blond Australian, fond of a drink and a fight. Watson is looking for his friend, Henry Jones Jr, who we are told went missing while volunteering for the AAL (Allied Antiquities League), an organisation allied with the South Vietnamese to recover and rescue valuable Vietnamese art and antiquities. They find floating wreckage, and a fedora-hatted figure appears, standing on a yacht in the shadows.

 

"Henry Jones Junior?" asks Watson.

 

"Yes," the figure says in a familiar tone. "But my friends call me Indiana."

 

We realise that the "Henry Jones Junior" who is missing is Mutt Williams. We see Indy's yacht, which he and Marion are currently using on a sort of break. Marion serves Watson tea, and explains that they believe their son is dead, and that Jones is 72, retired, and happy, but realises that he has to find Mutt's body. Then, Jud calls them out and tells them that he has found Mutt's body. In his fingers is a card reading "Find the Nazarene Crate".

 

While taking the yacht back to Australia, Watson accompanies the Jones. Indiana tells him about the Nazarene Crate, a wooden box believed found in Israel in 1954 by the British archaeologist Andrew Wendart, who was forbidden by the Israeli government from taking the box. Apparently, it was made from the same wood as the crucifix that Jesus was impaled on. It turns out that Mutt was approached by a missionary on behalf of Cardinal Mudie, a senior member of the Vatican. Marion is nervous, but Indy decides to do it to complete his son's dying wish.

 

Jones and Watson visit Mudie at the Vatican, where he informs that the Catholic Church need the crate, as the one true evidence that Jesus was the Son of God. Indiana decides to contact his old friend Sallah to help excavate the tomb.

 

When they meet in Tel Aviv, we learn that Sallah's statuesque daughter Lynessa is now helping him. She is a tough, attractive but fun-loving sort, quite like her father. While patrolling the desert, they are met by Wendart, an old man who has been told of the Church's need for the crate and is angry that they did not contact him, as he buried it. However, he is a drunk in a white linen suit, throwing glass bottles away every minute. Wendart is accompanied by a diminutive but tough little bruiser, an English ex-boxer named Amos Hindhaugh who gets into a fight with Chris, clearly the main physical character, as Indy has become the sort of Professor figure. However, Sallah interrupts the fight between Chris and Amos, pointing at Wendart's dead corpse, before they have found the exact spot of the crate.

 

In a market place, Sallah and Lynessa pack the crate into a truck and then Aryan mercenaries crowd the scene, blond Germans aided by a few PLO-type Palestinians, swarthy, suspicious types. Willis, a big bearded English mercenary, a Pat Roach role if there ever was one, threatens Amos into helping him and the two steal the truck and crash through a wall. Driving through the streets of Tel Aviv, Indy steals an open top car and drives it while Chris attempts to jump into the back of the truck. It is the truck scene from Raiders, reset in a bustling 1970s Israel. Willis gets out of the truck he is driving, climbs into the back and while Chris pushes him out, the crate falls out and breaks. Some locals then take the wood, and leave. Indy, angry tells Sallah and Lynessa to go back to the hotel, while Chris is stressed and wonders who Willis was working for.

 

Back at the hotel, while Indy cals Marion home, Chris unsuccessfully seduces Lynessa. He seems suspicious of what is going on in the city. Amos arrives in the hotel, warning that Willis was an ex-SAS buddy and both were working for a private collector, a Father De Souza. Amos then collapses, claiming he has been poisoned. He dies. Meanwhile, Indy is contacted by a young Austrian-American woman, Erika Liebermann, a Nazi hunter who believes that a cabal of Nazis residing in South America are the ones who were looking for the wood, in the belief that it would bless whoever would be impaled on it with the instant power of Christ. She and her elderly mentor, Hector Winogradsky meet Indy, Sallah and Lynessa. Hector urges them to go, and that he must stay. She then meets Chris, and they become sort of lovers. Indy, Sallah, Lynessa, Chris and Erika travel to Paraguay.

 

Arriving at Paraguay Airport, they are met by Willis, where Indy prepares to fight him on the runway. Chris takes over,  and pushes Willis in front of a plane. The plane stops, and Willis admits all. We learn that "Father De Souza" is Joachim Mundt, an ex-Nazi who Erika claims was "the son of an industrialist, believedd to be the last student of the late Rene Belloq."

 

"Belloq?" cries Indiana.

 

"You knew him?" Erika replies, startled.

 

"Yes, you could say that." smiles Sallah.

 

Willis pleads to be let go. He is, but escapes onto the road outside the airport, where is run down by  a taxi. Out of the taxi, gets out the lean, emaciated Mundt, and a half-burnt-faced man Erika recognises as the Nazi-turned-German film producer Karl Hildebrandt. Erika tells Indy and the others to hide in the airport spy, as they spy on Mundt and Hildebrandt. Mundt then notices Liebermann and Paraguayan cops jump out, and attempt to take our heroes. Indy uses his whip to push them away. Sallah and Indy are then taken away by Mundt, and Lynessa, Chris and Erika are left stranded.

 

Indy and Sallah are in the back of the cab, tied up with rope. They jump from the cab and tied together, abseil down a bridge into the jungle, dragging the cab off the road. Mundt escapes, but Hildebrandt is killed. They hold Mundt hostage, leading him to the Nazis' hacienda, on a  walk through the jungle, and along the way we learn that the Nazarene Crate isn't the cross at all, but a Satanic bit of objet d'art. In the jungle, they are met by Chris and Erika, in a motorcycle and sidecar, while Lynessa rides a horse, going the opposite direction.

 

When they arrive at the hacienda, it is surrounded with cabs. Nazis as well as Satanists from all over the world, Japanese Satanists, English Satanists, Nazis long in hiding, many Americans are there. Our heroes are bundled through a crowd of young Aryan men and women, the Satanists and the Nazis at once separate and together.

 

At the hacienda, we learn that Wendart was a tool, a lapsed Satanist forced to bury and then "discover" the crate, actually an ancient box created by a 16th century necromancer in Tudor England who had come to find it to destroy it. The Nazis/Satanists planned to keep it there until enough people had forgotten about "the war". Their mission is to use it to find Hell itself, trying to find the right spell to unlock it so they can retrieve the souls of the fallen and use the forces of the dark to banish the non-Aryans and rebuild the human race in their own image. Chris attempts to break the wood, but a lightning bolt shoots out and temporarily disables him.

 

Lynessa and Erika are in a cell, tortured by the bottle-spectacled Nazi surgeon, Dr. Redpath who boasts that he was "Dr. Josef Mengele's favorite student". Lynessa kicks him, Erika pushes him to the floor and they escape, lighting a match and locking the room.

 

Chris takes out a guard and starts shooting Nazis, only for Indy to catch him and stop him, and slightly annoyed, reports him to the Nazis. Sallah is shocked but Indy informs him that the Nazis' own plans will fall back.

 

However, Lynessa and Erika start causing mayhem, leaping down on a chandelier from a porch and flattening a row of Nazis. Our heroes are then brought underground by Mundt to watch the "opening of the crate, the dawn of the new Golden Age".

 

In the underground, the crate is finally unlocked. A projection of the Last Supper appears, seeming transporting Indy, Sallah, Chris and the Nazis to a ghostly echo of the Biblical event in Heaven, but the Disciples suddenly transform into skeletal, cobwebbed ghouls and Jesus a faceless cypher. Flames collapse behind them. Chris and Sallah escape up the steps, but Indy is left behind, faced with the Satanic image of the snake, paralysed with fear. He eventually laughs it off, and learns to cope with his fear. Around him, Nazis and Satanists are being sucked into the box, their bodies contorted, some turned to ash, others stretched and bent Mr. Fantastic style, and perhaps melted a la Toht, their gloop tidily sliding into the crate, and then vanishing in bright orange light. The only one who survives is Mundt who prepares to shoot Indy. Indy then throws his whip on the floor, where it stretches out and gets caught between Mundt's shoe and the crate, dragging the Nazi into the portal with it. Then, Indy blocks the dwindling portal with the hat, which burns up as the portal eventually simmers away into nothingness. Indy gets up and laughs, and realises that he has finally retired, losing both his fear of his snakes, his hat and whip. Sallah pats him on the back, and he tells Chris and the rest that Marion shall be having them over for Christmas dinner. Erika points out that she is Jewish. Then, Chris and Erika share a kiss. 


Edited by George White - 3/22/16 at 1:44am
post #1292 of 1298

Silence... Gordon steps to Wayne. Their eyes meet.

"All this time," whispers Gordon. "All this time... The Bat."

"The Bat," Wayne cautiously responds. "And the man."

post #1293 of 1298

Oh, George...  You have no idea what you've just done.

post #1294 of 1298

what just happened.

post #1295 of 1298

My face just melted off.

post #1296 of 1298
Just got the Nathan Drake trilogy remastered for PS4 from the cheap bin. Just a few hours into part 2. There's nothing wrong with any of this being adapted as a Jones movie.

Well, other than Ford's age.
post #1297 of 1298

So the documentary about the kids who made their own version of Raiders is playing various Drafthouses now. Saw it yesterday. It's pretty good.

 

post #1298 of 1298

WATCH THIS RIGHT NOW!:

 

 

 

EDIT: I see this was already posted over in the Focused Film Indy thread. Oh well.


Edited by Jacob Singer - 9/30/16 at 7:23am
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