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post #801 of 958
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Originally Posted by Mr. Stockslivevan View Post

Just listening to his KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL soundtrack. I get the same feeling I had listening to Jerry Goldsmith's score for STAR TREK: NEMESIS. Both score for the most part are effective and in many ways beat 90% of what so called film composers call music, and yet Williams and Goldsmith clearly show (or showed in the latter's case *tear drop*) that their best years are far behind them. Still a good listen, but sad to know that spark he had during the last quarter of the 20th century is no longer there.


Eh, I'd give his scores for TINTIN and especially WAR HORSE a listen before I write him off completely. He's still got gas in the tank; I think it's more (in both cases) them taking a score because it was expected of them, not because they felt particularly energized by the material. 

 

post #802 of 958

I've always felt that Williams collected his best leftover Indiana Jones ideas and put them into The Lost World: Jurassic Park. Then, whoops, a fourth movie happened after all.

post #803 of 958
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post

I've always felt that Williams collected his best leftover Indiana Jones ideas and put them into The Lost World: Jurassic Park. Then, whoops, a fourth movie happened after all.


Yep.  THE LOST WORLD is one is his most underrated scores.  It's incredibly propulsive and great to work out to.  

 

post #804 of 958
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Yep.  THE LOST WORLD is one is his most underrated scores.  It's incredibly propulsive and great to work out to.  

 


Agreed.  It's way too good for the movie it is stuck with.

 

post #805 of 958

KOTCS score had me preemptively mourning Williams too, but like was said above, TINTIN and WAR HORSE are miles better.

 

The RAIDERS score is my favorite, but when it comes to TEMPLE OF DOOM, I really dig this slightly more bombastic version of the mine chase by the City of Prague Philharmonic:

post #806 of 958

My favorite...song, in the Indiana Jones Quadrillogy is...Anything Goes, as the opener of Temple of Doom!

post #807 of 958
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Eh, I'd give his scores for TINTIN and especially WAR HORSE a listen before I write him off completely. He's still got gas in the tank; I think it's more (in both cases) them taking a score because it was expected of them, not because they felt particularly energized by the material. 

 


Agreed. I'd also add that his scores for Revenge of the Sith and Prisoner of Azkaban might be the best scores for their respective series.

 

post #808 of 958
I'm not writing him off entirely, I just think his best years are behind. I'll take him over hacks like Michael Giacchino. Even Goldsmith coasting could churn out a better Trek score.
post #809 of 958

From the maker of Star Wars Begins, Building Empire, and Returning To Jedi:

 

post #810 of 958

There was some cool information that was new to me. For instance in the opening sequence, the golden idol had little remote-controlled eyes that'd track Indy as he crossed the room. The eye movement was very subtle.

 

All in all, it's time well spent.

post #811 of 958

It will be interesting to see when/if he does a Temple of Doom doc to see if the moving snake statue is explained...

post #812 of 958

I've been reading through the Indiana Jones novels Bantam put out in the mid 90s. Over all they're good fun. Several of them really manage to capture the essence of Dr Jones as a character. Undeniably though the best part of the series are the covers Bantam commissioned Drew Struzan to create. I love Struzan and his work on Jones stands as a career highlight -  his posters for Temple of Doom and Last Crusade are some of my all time favorite movie posters. I found some images online of his cover art that I thought other fans might enjoy:

 

DanceOfTheGiants_e.jpg

SevenVeils_art.jpg

GenesisDeluge_e.jpg

SkyPirates_art.jpg

PhilosophersStone_e.jpg

 

If you guys enjoyed these I'll post some more covers later!

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Back in the 80s and 90s, I always thought Dennis Quaid would have been a good second Indy.  He even had a bit of a resemblance to Harrison Ford.

 

Tim Daly.

post #814 of 958

I have the complete set of those books, but have only read the first three.  Nothing stellar, but nothing awful either.  Just fun disposable entertainment.  I might knock back a few more this summer.

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Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post

From the maker of Star Wars Begins, Building Empire, and Returning To Jedi:

 


Thank you for this.. now I know what I'll be listening to at work.

post #816 of 958

Yeah, cheers for the link. Perfect half-watch half-listen AV wallpaper.

 

 

Re - those Book covers:

 

Is that Amelia Earhart  being attacked by UFOs!?

post #817 of 958

What, you don't remember hearing that that's what actually happened in your American History class?

post #818 of 958

Well, I didn't go to CIA High. :-(

post #819 of 958
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Originally Posted by Nardo View Post

Yeah, cheers for the link. Perfect half-watch half-listen AV wallpaper.


Re - those Book covers:

Is that Amelia Earhart  being attacked by UFOs!?

If I'm not mistaken that is one of the titular Sky Pirates from Indiana Jones and the Sky Pirates. I have not read that one yet (supposedly one of the worst of the novels according to reviews on amazon).
post #820 of 958
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Re - those Book covers:

 

Is that Amelia Earhart  being attacked by UFOs!?

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I'm not saying aliens brought down Amelia Earhart's plane, but they probably did.

post #821 of 958

If it is her plane, it's not the Electra she was last seen in.

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Whoa whoa whoa there chief - Indiana Jones and the Philosopher's Stone?

Really? What year was that published??
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Whoa whoa whoa there chief - Indiana Jones and the Philosopher's Stone?
Really? What year was that published??


 1995, a clean two years before Harry Potter.

post #824 of 958

Eh, Uncle Scrooge had a Philosopher's Stone adventure 20 years before that.

post #825 of 958

Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone in the UK wasn't it?

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Philosopher's in the original, Sorcerer's in the US.

post #827 of 958

The Philospher's Stone is a real concept.  It's not like JK Rowling or Max McCoy just made it up.

post #828 of 958

But did anyone call "Dibs"?

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Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone in the UK wasn't it?

Philosophers Stone in the UK, Sorcerers Stone in the US.
post #830 of 958

Am I even here?

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I would totally read Indiana Jones and the Order of the Phoenix.

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Originally Posted by Arjen Rudd View Post

I would totally read Indiana Jones and the Order of the Phoenix.

 

Well, there's this, anyway.

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Originally Posted by Nardo View Post

But did anyone call "Dibs"?

 

I did.  I haven't seen a red cent yet, by the way.

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Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post

Am I even here?

 

Augh!! - Who said that!??

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Originally Posted by Nardo View Post

But did anyone call "Dibs"?

 

I did.  I haven't seen a red cent yet, by the way.


Better be a gold cent anyway, or the stone doesn't work.

post #836 of 958

Lead cent.  I can convert it to gold myself.

post #837 of 958

Seriously, I'm not trying to be misunderstood here. It would be gold if the stone worked.

post #838 of 958

While I haven't read that one yet (Sky Pirates), I don't think Amelia Earhart is in that novel...............though admittedly I am too lazy to go into the next room and check.

post #839 of 958

Those Indiana Jones books sound perfectly retarded enough to read while bored at work. I'll have to go pick up some. Any suggestions on which are the best?

post #840 of 958

The first one was rather stand alone, but the next three have a throughline...

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Indy gets married.

 

Not sure about the ones beyond yet.

 

 

Also, these books detail the years between the TV series and Temple of Doom.  Indy is right out of the college in the first novel.

post #841 of 958
I read Indiana Jones and the Dinosaur Eggs most recently. It was pretty good, as in, much better than expected. You've got Belloq, Lao Che.... and god damned dinosaurs. It's almost kind of impossible to dislike these books. From the opening of Dinosaur Eggs:

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Prologue

Castle of the Damned

Forteresse Malevil. Marseilles, France. October 1933.

The meaty fist hit Indiana Jones like a sledgehammer, splitting his upper lip against his front teeth and sending a kaleidoscope of colors dancing behind his eyes. If Indy had ever been hit harder, he could not remember it.

Seven Veils, which I'm reading now, has Jones on the hunt for the Lost City of Z.
post #842 of 958

In Dance of the Giants, he meets Gandalf. Really!

post #843 of 958

The Peril at Delphi was decent.  I really enjoyed Dance of the Giants and The Seven Veils though.  I started the fourth one awhile back, but need to restart it at this point.  Sounds like good beach material for my upcoming trip.

post #844 of 958

In addition to the novels, there's a whole bunch of Indy comics that were semi-recently collected in volumes.  (Sorry if this has been brought up already.)

 

But when it comes to Indy's adventures outside of the movies, well, this is all you truly need.

post #845 of 958
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Originally Posted by FatherDude View Post

In addition to the novels, there's a whole bunch of Indy comics that were semi-recently collected in volumes.  (Sorry if this has been brought up already.)

 

 

The Dark Horse Omnibuses collect those in mass fairly cheap (very cheap for used, in some cases). "The Further Adventures" Series, of which there are three volumes, collects the Marvel comics from the early 80s (when all they had to go on was Raiders) and I found them more enjoyable. The other omnibuses (I think there's two) collect the Dark Horse stuff. Some of those are just adaptations of the video game storylines.

post #846 of 958

FatherDude, I disagree.  I...Jones, for Atari's Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom Arcade Game.

 

Ben Grimm, I have all 3 Indiana Jones Omnibus's, and they are indeed...Awesome!

post #847 of 958
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Originally Posted by FatherDude View Post

In addition to the novels, there's a whole bunch of Indy comics that were semi-recently collected in volumes.  (Sorry if this has been brought up already.)

 

But when it comes to Indy's adventures outside of the movies, well, this is all you truly need.

OH, you mean the one Indy story that should have been made into a film? 

post #848 of 958

The Marvel Indy comics are notable for some of the random talent that drifted through. John Byrne. Howard Chaykin. Fucking Steve Ditko. Even though in the latter case it was pretty obviously a paycheck gig.

post #849 of 958
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Originally Posted by Martin Blank View Post

The Marvel Indy comics are notable for some of the random talent that drifted through. John Byrne. Howard Chaykin. Fucking Steve Ditko. Even though in the latter case it was pretty obviously a paycheck gig.

 

I found the books more interesting than good. I read somewhere - I don't remember where - that Byrne originally wanted to do six-episode "mini-movie" arcs and stick with the book much longer than he did, but Shooter wanted to keep storylines down to two issues.

 

Ditko has turned up in much weirder places: http://ditko.blogspot.com/2009/09/sabans-mighty-morphin-power-rangers-4.html

post #850 of 958
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Originally Posted by Ben Grimm View Post

I found the books more interesting than good. I read somewhere - I don't remember where - that Byrne originally wanted to do six-episode "mini-movie" arcs and stick with the book much longer than he did, but Shooter wanted to keep storylines down to two issues.

Ditko has turned up in much weirder places: http://ditko.blogspot.com/2009/09/sabans-mighty-morphin-power-rangers-4.html

The Dark Horse series Indiana Jones and the Thunder in the Orient is my favorite Indy comic, and it's also the longest one. Six issues.

A word of warning about that three volume Jones comic omnibus, however: for whatever reason each story only contains one cover. The cover art for many issues is missing from those books.
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