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Moses was high on drugs: Israeli researcher

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From the AFP via YAHOO

JERUSALEM (AFP) - High on Mount Sinai, Moses was on psychedelic drugs when he heard God deliver the Ten Commandments, an Israeli researcher claimed in a study published this week.
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Such mind-altering substances formed an integral part of the religious rites of Israelites in biblical times, Benny Shanon, a professor of cognitive psychology at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem wrote in the Time and Mind journal of philosophy.

"As far Moses on Mount Sinai is concerned, it was either a supernatural cosmic event, which I don't believe, or a legend, which I don't believe either, or finally, and this is very probable, an event that joined Moses and the people of Israel under the effect of narcotics," Shanon told Israeli public radio on Tuesday.

Moses was probably also on drugs when he saw the "burning bush," suggested Shanon, who said he himself has dabbled with such substances.

"The Bible says people see sounds, and that is a clasic phenomenon," he said citing the example of religious ceremonies in the Amazon in which drugs are used that induce people to "see music."

He mentioned his own experience when he used ayahuasca, a powerful psychotropic plant, during a religious ceremony in Brazil's Amazon forest in 1991. "I experienced visions that had spiritual-religious connotations," Shanon said.

He said the psychedelic effects of ayahuasca were comparable to those produced by concoctions based on bark of the acacia tree, that is frequently mentioned in the Bible.
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What kind of shoddy crap research is this? I hope his colleagues giggle behind his back when he walks down the hall.
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Who cares if he used drugs? Was he a nose picker?
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I don't know about Moses, but the twelve disciples were, like, totally baked at the Last Supper.
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"Man, this bread is fantastic. Hey, Thomas, did you have some of this bread? It's like, so chewy, man. Just - chewy! Wow... Hey, Judas, did you have some of this bread? It's awesome, man! Dude, you look tense. Is everything cool? Guys, I don't think that Judas got the bong. Could someone pass it this way again...
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Not that I want to lend credence to...creed, but did the guy also invent a time machine and head back to when Moses came down? I mean, this seems a little far fetched. Don't get me wrong, the idea of a baked and wasted Moses stumbling down a mountain with two stones he found is frickin hilarious, but come on.
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Not that I want to lend credence to...creed, but did the guy also invent a time machine and head back to when Moses came down? I mean, this seems a little far fetched. Don't get me wrong, the idea of a baked and wasted Moses stumbling down a mountain with two stones he found is frickin hilarious, but come on.
"Guys! Guys! Check out these fucking rocks! Holy shit!"
post #8 of 27
Someone should tell that Dan Brown so he can set the sequel to Da Vinci Code in Amsterdam.
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"Guys! Guys! Check out these fucking rocks! Holy shit!"
Rep Rep Rep Rep. I got looks for cracking up because of this.
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Moses was soooo 3200 years ago, Wu Ding emperor of Shang Dynasty is where its at today.
post #11 of 27
This would make a great The Doors-style montage, where Moses and his buddies are in the desert talking about graven images and neighbors' wives, cut with them showing each commandment to the townspeople.
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This would help explain the whole walking in circles for forty years bit.
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What kind of shoddy crap research is this? I hope his colleagues giggle behind his back when he walks down the hall.
I believe he is part of THIS research team
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I imagine when people saw the plagues they were like Lloyd Bridges in AIRPLANE! "The frogs... THEY'RE COMING RIGHT AT US!"
post #16 of 27
Mannah from Heaven? Actually Cheetos.
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What kind of shoddy crap research is this? I hope his colleagues giggle behind his back when he walks down the hall.
In this case 'research' means 'stuff he thought up while tripping.'

There's no evidence of this at all, but it's a theory that I can get on board with. It honestly would explain a lot of the bible.
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I imagine when people saw the plagues they were like Lloyd Bridges in AIRPLANE! "The frogs... THEY'RE COMING RIGHT AT US!"
I wonder if "fell from the sky" was ancient Hebrew slang for "we licked them."
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Well, shit, while we're at it: the Bible is actually primitive man's recollections of the aliens who visited the planet and started messing with us genetically! How else do you explain that Noah lived to be so old and they say so many people are tall and radiate light?

Huh? Huh?!? What now, science?!?!
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I love the way people can argue about "facts" like this.

What next? Thesius was tripping balls when he saw a minotaur and never left his bedroom?

We're talking myths and legends here people.
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What the hell did this researcher actually study to reach his conclusion? Didn't he get the memo that there are no known existing documents regarding Moses from the time that he had supposedly lived?
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What the hell did this researcher actually study to reach his conclusion? Didn't he get the memo that there are no known existing documents regarding Moses from the time that he had supposedly lived?
Didn't you read the article, Patbuddha? He did the research! He took the drugs! He had the hallucinations!

This guy will be teaching at DeVry in a few years, bitter that The Man put him down for speaking Truth.
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Jesusanddrugsbiblehilartyensueshurrayexclamation!
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Whoa whoa whoa waitaminute. There are people who are nonreligious and also accept that Moses was an actual person, and these people believe the guy wasn't on some serious shit? If the guy wasn't taking something to cause some sort of hallucinogenic state, dude was at least bugshit crazy due to living in the desert in the middle of nowhere for years without adequate food and water and living in a mostly uncivilized world. Mother fucker wrote about manna from heaven and aliens (or rather the sons of god) coming down to earth and mating with the daughters of men and giving birth to giants with 6 fingers and 6 toes and all sorts of crazy crazy shit.

Other people who were probably on some shit: Abraham, Issac, Jacob, Noah, Samuel, Esther, Sarah, Elijah, Elisha, Haggai, Micaiah, Isaiah, Zephaniah, Zechariah, Hezekiah, Obadiah, Nehemiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel (especially him, dude saw frickin UFO's!), Hosea, Jonah, Joel, Amos, Nahum, John the Baptist and possibly King David.

I'm sure I am leaving some people out.
post #25 of 27
I'm sure most of our prominent historical figures were on some kind of substance.


FDR loved himself some PCP.
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Didn't you read the article, Patbuddha? He did the research! He took the drugs! He had the hallucinations!
Damn! You're right. The case is iron clad. Expressed logically it would look something like this:
1. X did some good shit in 1991
2. therefore y did the same good shit in 1500 BC.
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Huh

God forgive him........
he don't know what he is saying
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