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Man, Universe, you're looking old!

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The universe is older than previously thought, according to one scientific source. And by older, I mean like, way, way, way, way older than 6000 years.

Check it:


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Happy birthday, Universe!

Kinda. It’s not really the Universe’s birthday, but now we do know to high accuracy just how old it is.

How?

NASA’s WMAP is the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (which is a mouthful, and why we just call it WMAP). It was designed to map the Universe with exquisite precision, detecting microwaves coming from the most distant source there is: the cooling fireball of the Big Bang itself.

New results just released from WMAP have nailed down lots of cool stuff — literally — about the Universe.

I am about to explain the early Universe to you. I’ll be brief, but if you want to skip to the results, then go ahead.

Here’s the quick version: the Big Bang was hot. The Universe itself expanded outward from a single point — actually, it’s space itself that expands, not the objects in it — and like any expanding gas it cooled. After about a microsecond, it had cooled enough for protons and neutrons to form. Three minutes later (yes, just three minutes) it had cooled enough for protons and neutrons to stick together. Hydrogen, helium, and just a dash of lithium were created, and these would be the only elements for some time (hundreds of millions of years, in fact). The Universe was a thick soup of matter and energy.

It kept expanding and cooling. At this point, it was opaque to light. A photon couldn’t travel an inch without smacking into an electron and then getting sent off in some other random direction. However, after a few hundred thousand years, an amazing thing happened: neutral hydrogen could form. Before this point, the Universe was still too hot; as soon as an electron bonded with a proton, some ultraviolet photon would come along and whack it off. But at that golden moment the cosmos had cooled off enough that a lasting atomic relationship was in the offing. Neutral hydrogen was born. At that moment — astronomers call it recombination, which is a misnomer, since it was the first time electrons and protons could combine — the Universe became transparent; without all those pesky electrons floating around, photons found themselves free to travel long distances.
Read the rest at the link!

http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2...ion-years-old/

Some food for thought.
post #2 of 14
Interesting stuff. But isn't there still a lot of speculation on how our universe is aging?
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Before this point, the Universe was still too hot; as soon as an electron bonded with a proton, some ultraviolet photon would come along and whack it off.
Heh...heh, heh...heh, heh, heh, heh, heh...
post #4 of 14
Is this Azathoth that I see in the center of that map?
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Ia, Ia, Shub Niggurath! Black Goat of the Woods With a Thousand Young! He Who Shall Not Be Named Who Whacks Off Electrons! Fthagn!
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Is this Azathoth that I see in the center of that map?
Ahhhhh! I thought I heard flutes!

So, how did the point where the universe started get compacted in the first place? And how did all that space get there in the first place?
post #7 of 14
The universe should really stop off at the Estee Lauder counter for a consultation before resorting to botox. Because, man, a needle that big would be impossible to find.
post #8 of 14
The universe was three days to retirement when this had to happen.
post #9 of 14
I disagree; the Universe, being flat, will probably go in for implants at some time, and may as well get a facelift and a tummy tuck or some well placed lipo while it's at it.

The Universe is Flat? Contemplating that (such as: how can it be flat when we can move in 3 dimensions, unless "flat" is a relative term and the thickness of the "flat" universe is really incomprehensibly big, it's just that photon trails don't surve back on themselves. . . or what the hell is above and below the flat part if space didn't exist until the Big Bang? That would mean, I guess, that the rest of the not "Bang"-ing stuff isn't space either, so then WTF is it. . . ?!) makes my head hurt and makes me feel really small and unimportant.
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Edit: I confused myself...
post #11 of 14
"Let there be transparency!!!!"

That just doesn't have the same ring to it. No wonder He changed it.
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Originally Posted by Bancroft Agee View Post
"Let there be transparency!!!!"
I was having this problem in After Effects the other day.
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Originally Posted by IggytheBorg View Post
The Universe is Flat?
It's a relative thing. The universe is flat in places where it's just empty space. Which is most of it.

Remember, galaxies and suns and planets and crap make up only 5% of the known universe...so, the rest of it is flat. It's more accurate to say that the universe is 95% flat.
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Originally Posted by Jared Melton View Post
It's a relative thing. The universe is flat in places where it's just empty space. Which is most of it.

Remember, galaxies and suns and planets and crap make up only 5% of the known universe...so, the rest of it is flat. It's more accurate to say that the universe is 95% flat.
That squooshing noise you just heard was my brain exploding and oozing out my right ear. . . .
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