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post #151 of 190
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Originally Posted by Keith Fordyce View Post
I've seen more bands I dislike than I care to list, mostly because of festivals and being there for the opening act, or hanging around with assholes with poor musical tastes, like my brother. Case in point, Godsmack show, 2001, with the Deftones opening. My brother won tickets from the local radio station, and asked me to go. My hatred of Godsmack almost overshadowed my fondness for the Deftones, but what the hell, I went. Fuck Godsmack, live or Memorex. Thank the lord my brother wanted to leave after just a few of their songs, he's a puss like that. I'm glad I went, though, because the Deftones blew them off the stage.
I felt the same way seeing Godsmack in 2000 with the Ozzfest tour. However, I saw them about a year ago, totally different band. I'm not saying to go and see them again, but if they are in a lineup, give it another shot.
post #152 of 190
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Originally Posted by Nexus-7 View Post
I've heard the Gorge is an amazing venue. If I ever get back up there I'll have to time it to a good show playing there.
The Gorge is glorious. Everyone should see a show there at least once. Even Goldberg would like like it.
post #153 of 190
even if someone never went to a concert... I'm sure you'd have to have seen someone perform live.. even if at an art festival or parade or something.

Hell, we got Chairman of the Board to play at our Trade Show last year.
post #154 of 190
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Originally Posted by BobClark View Post
I get the point, but it's not completely valid.
Why go to the orchestra to listen to that same old Beethoven shit, then?
Is Beethoven still playing the ninth?
post #155 of 190
Yeah, but his earlier stuff was better.
post #156 of 190
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Originally Posted by Andre Dellamorte View Post
Is Beethoven still playing the ninth?
It can be argued that not all rock music has a sell through date. Especially if it's still being performed by the original band.
post #157 of 190
I would argue that watching an artist and an audience deny their having evolved over the course of twenty to thirty years is probably the most depressing thing ever. The beauty of watching a concert is having that huge group work together to recreate something. Watching musicians (and to a large extent, a crowd) try and do something they did decades previous is kinda like buying a sports car.
post #158 of 190
Dude, Beethoven sold out years ago. It's about Strauss, either one now.
post #159 of 190
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Originally Posted by Greg David View Post
So this leads me to a question: if you didn't care for their studio tracks, what convinced you to see them live? I would never bother with a show by an artist that hadn't already captivated me, so I always wonder when I hear people say this.
I'm not proud of this but I wasn't a huge fan of Arcade Fire when I first heard their stuff. I mean I got why people liked them but they did nothing for me. A friend gave me a ticket because he was a huge fan and his wife couldn't go. I'm not one to turn down a free concert so I went. One of the best concerts I've ever seen. In concert their sound really comes alive and vibrant. I'm still not the biggest fan of their studio tracks but damn if they aren't one of my favourite new bands simply due to their live show.

I have no idea if there's a producer alive (and working) who could capture their energy and sound in the studio.
post #160 of 190
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Originally Posted by Raspberry Leper View Post
At this point, I'll only see Pearl Jam multiple times on the same tour. In '06, I saw them 4 times and I forget the exact number, but I know I heard something like 70+ different songs between the 4 shows.
Same here - that's why I make a concerted effort to catch PJ at every venue when they're in town. No set is the same, you often get some great improv stuff, and they've always been great live. I'm torn now, because Vedder's playing the Wiltern next month...on my girlfriend's birthday. And X is playing at the Fonda a couple of days prior to that. Damned birthdays.

I agree with everyone who has so far mentioned the awesomeness of live music - I had one of my best live concert experiences last year when a friend called me up saying that he had comped tickets to see Neil Young at the Nokia Theatre. I went with it, figured we'd be stuck behind some fucking pylon or in the nosebleeds, but thought I was going to pass out when I realized that we had orchestra seats 27 rows away from the stage. Best free concert ever, and Young absolutely killed.
post #161 of 190
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Originally Posted by Andre Dellamorte View Post
The beauty of watching a concert is having that huge group work together to recreate something.
How do you feel about cover bands?
post #162 of 190
Not particularly great either. The concert/Rock concert analogy is not very fair. The size of an orchestra does something completely different to that music, though again, the recreation of it is not something that is trying to recreate art from our lifetimes. But artists move forward or stop being interesting.
post #163 of 190
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Originally Posted by Andre Dellamorte View Post
I would argue that watching an artist and an audience deny their having evolved over the course of twenty to thirty years is probably the most depressing thing ever. The beauty of watching a concert is having that huge group work together to recreate something. Watching musicians (and to a large extent, a crowd) try and do something they did decades previous is kinda like buying a sports car.
I agree and that was my problem with The Police tour. Sting wanted identical replicas of their songs while Summers and Copeland wanted more chances to improvise with old tunes. As much as I like Sting I think the way the other two wanted to do the concert would have made for a much better live experience.
post #164 of 190
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Originally Posted by Andre Dellamorte View Post
But artists move forward or stop being interesting.
Sure. And when that happens you usually get reunion concerts. I'm saying it's possible for some artists to play the same songs they did 30 years ago and still remain artistically valid.
post #165 of 190
That's why I specifically beat up on a reunion tour thing. If Prince wants to slip in Soft and Wet... oh jesus.
post #166 of 190
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Originally Posted by Ryan S~ View Post
I agree and that was my problem with The Police tour. Sting wanted identical replicas of their songs while Summers and Copeland wanted more chances to improvise with old tunes. As much as I like Sting I think the way the other two wanted to do the concert would have made for a much better live experience.
I wonder if this is because Sting realizes he's not very good at revising his own material. Every time a Police song has gotten a makeover at his hands ("Don't Stand So Close to Me," "Demolition Man," the slow, grating version of "Roxanne" I heard him play live years ago), it's vastly inferior to the original. He should probably have more faith in Copeland and Summers, but the guy's kind of a control freak.
post #167 of 190
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Originally Posted by Andre Dellamorte View Post
Not particularly great either. The concert/Rock concert analogy is not very fair. The size of an orchestra does something completely different to that music, though again, the recreation of it is not something that is trying to recreate art from our lifetimes.
Like Rock Band. Is there anything else that's both so much fun to try, yet excruciating - EXCRUCIATING - to sit and watch?

Lesson: Be IN the cover band if you want to tolerate it...
post #168 of 190
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Originally Posted by Ryan S~ View Post
I'm not proud of this but I wasn't a huge fan of Arcade Fire when I first heard their stuff. I mean I got why people liked them but they did nothing for me. A friend gave me a ticket because he was a huge fan and his wife couldn't go. I'm not one to turn down a free concert so I went. One of the best concerts I've ever seen. In concert their sound really comes alive and vibrant. I'm still not the biggest fan of their studio tracks but damn if they aren't one of my favourite new bands simply due to their live show.

I have no idea if there's a producer alive (and working) who could capture their energy and sound in the studio.
I really, really like the Arcade Fire albums, but there's just no comparison. Every song they've released sounds better live. They're basically the ultimate argument for going out to see a band play.

There are people who probably don't get Funeral and Neon Bible at all, but would become die-hard fans upon seeing Arcade Fire live.
post #169 of 190
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Originally Posted by DaveB View Post
There are people who probably don't get Funeral and Neon Bible at all, but would become die-hard fans upon seeing Arcade Fire live.
So true. Like I mentioned above, Arcade Fire re-awoke the concert lover in me. I find it difficult to believe anyone could go to one of their shows and not have a great time.
post #170 of 190
Then there are cover bands who take it to a whole new level. Assuming you like Gabriel era Genesis, these guys are legitimately excellent- The Musical Box.
post #171 of 190
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Originally Posted by DaveB View Post
I wonder if this is because Sting realizes he's not very good at revising his own material. Every time a Police song has gotten a makeover at his hands ("Don't Stand So Close to Me," "Demolition Man," the slow, grating version of "Roxanne" I heard him play live years ago), it's vastly inferior to the original. He should probably have more faith in Copeland and Summers, but the guy's kind of a control freak.
Possible. When I saw he and Annie Lennox a couple years back he did a version of Demolition Man that was actually worse then his previous re-make of that song. His part if the show was technically perfect but horribly uninspired. Annie on the other hand was amazing...
post #172 of 190
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Originally Posted by DaveB View Post
I really, really like the Arcade Fire albums, but there's really no comparison. Every song they've released sounds better live. They're basically the ultimate argument for going out to see a band play.

There are people who probably don't get Funeral and Neon Bible at all, but would become die-hard fans upon seeing Arcade Fire live.
I listen to Funeral and I can enjoy the songs because I know what they sound like live but they just seem so distant on album. Part of it is the production but I suspect a great deal of it is the actual recording process. I suspect they're one of those bands that should record live as a band and do very little overdubs.

Neon Bible sounds a lot more like a band who has figured out what works for them in the studio.

And I definitely agree with your last statement. If you love music you should see them live.
post #173 of 190
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Originally Posted by devincf View Post
Yeah, I guess you should spend that money on therapy.
Yeah, that is exactly the way I thought and felt in high school, and I really could have used some therapy. Less disfiguring scars that way.
post #174 of 190
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Originally Posted by Alex Riviello View Post
That's Lamb of God's fault for bringing that back, isn't it? Seemed like the wall had died away till they started doing them at all of their shows.
Also, Chimaira are known to use quite as frequently as LoG.
post #175 of 190
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
Plus we had the Genitortuters rehearsing on a regular basis in our dorm, so that has to count for something.
That's the coolest thing I've read all day. One of the scariest concerts I saw was a Genitorturers show with multiple ritualistic theatrical castrations. I was scared for my balls.
post #176 of 190
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Originally Posted by Isildur's Bangs View Post
[Richie Cusack]How do you fuck THAT up?[/Cusack]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_5
I should mention that until a few years ago, I had a lot of annoying apprehensions about driving. I tried to never drive long distances to places I hadn't been before, for fear of getting lost. I didn't use street signs for navigation, and barely knew my way around my home town except via landmarks (turn left at the McDonald's, straight past the Top Foods to get to the movie theatre, shit like that).

I didn't drive a significant distance on I-5 until my first month of college. The thought of navigating Seattle itself was just... not an option.

This is no longer really the case. I'm still sort of nervous when driving to new places, but not nearly so much, and I never let it actually deter me from doing things. Google Maps has helped a great deal with this.
post #177 of 190
You mean you've also never eaten at Ivar's Mukilteo Landing on the shores of the Puget Sound?

For shame dude.

I can understand that though, for similar reasons I can never convince my family to travel out to LA even though it's really easy to get there from Vegas.

But I traveled alot when I was younger, several cross country road trips, and besides traveling from LA to Seattle multiple times I also lived in Gresham Oregon for a about 4 years when I was younger and we'd take trips up to the Seattle area all the time.

I've seen Pearl Jam a few times, but nothing tops the shows I caught in Seattle, and the local music scene is spectacular in both Portland and Seattle. Managed to catch the often cancelled and poorly funded Seattle Musicfest once in 2004 and was supposed to go in 2005, which would've had a line up including They Might be Giants, but alas it was not meant to be...

And reiterating some of the earlier discussion about reunions...all I got to say to that is Led Zeppelin. What I've seen of their reunion is pretty fucking spectacular. They need to do a world tour.
post #178 of 190
I'm in my thirties now and it's been at least 10 years since I've been to a concert. Just sitting back and listening to the band doesn't do it for me. But oh man, when I was younger and with fully operating knees I loved being in the pit. Wasn't going for the music but for the craziness that would ensue. Metallica, Iron Maiden, Manowar, Sepultura, other local metal bands, the louder the better. There's no feeling like being in the middle of it, fighting, with the speakers trying to pop your eyes out.

I remember going to a Sepultura concert for the Chaos A.D. tour. As we're walking out high from the adrenaline, dripping with sweat, barely able to breathe we walked straight into a knife fight. I think half a day went by before my heart rate dropped back to normal.
post #179 of 190
I cant understand how someone could not go to concerts in their life. Concerts are a required part of life.
post #180 of 190
DJ Dylan, back from another hiatus with profound statements once again. Watch out.
post #181 of 190
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Originally Posted by Alex Riviello View Post
DJ Dylan, back from another hiatus with profound statements once again. Watch out.
He's a man with a plan. A man with grilled cheese in his hand.
post #182 of 190
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Originally Posted by billylove View Post
A man with grilled cheese in his hand.
I call halfsies I'm hungry!
post #183 of 190
Now I'm definitely going to the They Might Be Giants concert on Saturday! (barring major cataclysm)
post #184 of 190
So what are some of the better moments we've had at shows? I'd say mine was The Decemberists getting really awkward about the crowd not knowing english, but completely relieved to find out that my friend and I did indeed speak the same language was amazing. We were all a bit more proud to be americans that night
post #185 of 190
One of my favorite moments was recounted in the missing Jesus Lizard thread...David Yow floored me with a big Doc Martin to the face while he was molesting a poor innocent girl with his microphone. Another good one, having a drink with Mark Sandman before a Morphine show.
post #186 of 190
I found this thread whilst searching for a Dropkick Murphys thread and I had to bump it because I'm genuinely interested if Patrick had a change of heart in regards to seeing live bands.
post #187 of 190
Carly's dad took us to see Bruce Springsteen and it was the best possible thing I could imagine, even way up in the nosebleeds (just like Dave B mentioned, actually). Bruce is probably my favorite musical artist of all time, and he's also one of the great live performers of all time, so a lot of things that normally bug me weren't even close to an issue.

I also saw Leonard Cohen, but that was more of a religious experience than anything else. The man's true genius is as a songwriter, not performer, but just seeing the man on stage in a classy theater, singing "Dance Me To The End Of Love" gave me incredible chills.

Also saw The Mountain Goats live. They were alright. Sounded fine, but again, they're a band I appreciate more as songwriters than performers.

I think in general, I'm a lot happier, more well-adjusted, and saner than I was in 2008, and I could probably enjoy concerts a lot more under the right circumstances. I love live music, but I still prefer the much smaller venues. I performed as part of a giant cover set show (as guitar player for a Half-Japanese cover band) at a VERY small venue (bout 30 to 40) and there was a Fleetwood Mac cover set that was so above and beyond any music I had ever heard live (Springsteen aside) that it still gives me chills thinking about it.

The other bands I really want to see live are The National and Okkervil River, and will jump at the chance to see them perform. Apart from that, a vast majority of the music I love isn't very current or would be too expensive to bother seeing live.
post #188 of 190
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Originally Posted by Andre Dellamorte View Post
How long was the Sex Pistols set? Did they have to dip into PIL stuff?
I saw the Sex Pistols on their 90's tour and it was pretty fucking good. No PIL stuff but they threaded some covers in amongst their own material. Set was about an hour and a half, I think.
post #189 of 190
I couldnt imagine going through life having never been to a concert.
post #190 of 190
Concerts are amazing. Going to the concerts, I'd say I mostly experienced two types of concert visitors. Those who go there to mosh or dance as hard as possible and those who are primarily there to see the band play.

I loved the pits when I was younger but nowadays I gotta admit I actually like to see what I paid for. The last time I saw Metallica I had a seat for the first time. I mean, of course no one actually sat for the 2h setlist but it was such a comfortable thing not getting pushed around, not getting annoying stagedivers onto your back, not getting doused with beer, not swimming in elbows, seeing every awesome guitar solo and still being able to rock out. This reads so lame.
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