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Dad forces daughter to kill pet cat

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http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/03/13/....ap/index.html

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Dad accused of forcing girl to kill pet cat

MUNCIE, Indiana (AP) -- A man was jailed Thursday on charges that he forced his 7-year-old daughter to kill the family cat by holding a knife in her hand and making her stab the pet.

Danield J. Collins, 39, told his children during a visit to his home Sunday that he wanted them to "learn how to kill" and gave his 11-year-old son a knife to do it, according to an affidavit filed in the case.

The boy tried to save the cat by hiding it under a sofa bed and putting ketchup on a knife when Collins went to the bathroom. But when the father realized that the cat was not dead, he forced his daughter to hold the knife and then held her hand tightly as he drove the knife into the animal, Muncie police Detective Jami Brown said.

Police said Collins stabbed and strangled the cat himself, and told his son to throw the dead pet in the trash. Officers retrieved the carcass to be used as evidence.

The children told family members about the incident Monday, the day after the alleged killing, according to the affidavit. The children told police that their father was drunk when they arrived at his home and that he's a different person when he's sober, it said.

The siblings live with their grandparents.

Collins was being held in the Delaware County Jail in lieu of $40,000 bail. He's charged with one count each of animal cruelty and battery and two counts of neglect of a dependent. The battery charge alleges that the girl was injured because Collins held her hand so hard that it ached.

The jail had no record of an attorney representing Collins, and there were no published phone listings for him in Muncie.

Brown said the case was particularly troubling because Collins involved his children in killing the animal, an 8-month-old tuxedo-type cat named Boots.

"I've been doing investigations for 10 years, and this is really bothering me," the detective said.
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Hopefully they will just announce that "This guy beat his kids!" when they throw him in jail, then see how much he enjoys being on the other end of a stabbing.
post #3 of 31
Based on my drive through Muncie, the dad was probably just looking for some kind of entertainment.
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At least the kids lived with their grandparents before, so they have a non insane influence in their lives. What an awful thing for a child to go through.

I'm not a hunter, but if I wanted my kids to learn how to kill I'd actually take them hunting or something. Not force them to stab an animal they have bonded with.
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Hopefully they will just announce that "This guy beat his kids!" when they throw him in jail, then see how much he enjoys being on the other end of a stabbing.
If he's lucky. More likely is the scenario where a 6'10 inmate named Chunkstyle doing 25 to life for beating a man with a fire hydrant puts a leash on him, and walks him around the facility calling him Mittens for the most uncomfortable reason one can imagine. He'll cry. I'll rejoice.
post #6 of 31
I own two tuxedo cats. Chunkstyle can't "play" with this asshole enough.
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I'd be perfectly happy with spending the rest of my life kicking this guy in the junk over and over.
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Isn't this how people become serial killers?
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Originally Posted by Brendan View Post
Danield J. Collins, 39, told his children during a visit to his home Sunday that he wanted them to "learn how to kill"
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Originally Posted by jcr39 View Post
I'm not a hunter, but if I wanted my kids to learn how to kill I'd actually take them hunting or something.
Why do we need to teach children how to kill? Are they being groomed for jobs in slaughterhouses? Or is this just a life-skill everyone should have?
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Or is this just a life-skill everyone should have?
Sure, if they're going to attend public school.
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I mean, do you have to teach them, really? You just have to push them! Remember what John Rambo taught us, everybody!
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Jesus, this guy. Everyone knows to start kids off with fish, turtles and the like before moving on to mammals. You have to scale it up, not just start them off with such a big creature. Why, I wasn't ready to kill a cat till I had slaughtered entire generations of hamsters.
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I know it's a huge cliche to wish horrible pain on people like this and happily discuss the possibility of them getting ass raped and tortured in prison but... Seriously, I hope Chunkstyle starts raping him and intermittently putting out cigarettes on his head and doesn't stop until whenever he's released back into the world.

It may be wrong to sink down to his level by thinking that but fuck it! I am so sick of reading the news and getting monumentally depressed.

Can't we get some positive news stories? Babies saved from burning buildings, people donating kidneys, charity work, true love, stuff like that? I need something to restore my faith in humanity, because at the moment I'm thinking that the earth should shake us off and send us all flying into space like a bunch of fucking fleas.
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Originally Posted by summer smile View Post
Why do we need to teach children how to kill? Are they being groomed for jobs in slaughterhouses? Or is this just a life-skill everyone should have?
Not everyone should know how to kill. I mean, who are the people that kill going to kill, other killers? Pshh.

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Originally Posted by Doc Happenin View Post
I mean, do you have to teach them, really? You just have to push them! Remember what John Rambo taught us, everybody!
"When a toddler's pushed, killin' a kitten's easy as breathin'."?

That was wrong, Rambo, and you're an asshole! John Asshole!
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Summer Smile, I don't know why you'd have to teach a child to kill. But if you did, hunting would be the best way, maybe? I didn't want it to sound like I agreed with his drunken logic, but I think it does. I think I was trying to say there's a difference between hunting, which some consider to be a sport, and making a kid shank a kitty.
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I'm in agreement with Werewolf Girl. I mean, jesus, how depressing is it to read this kind of shit or see a news report on it? It's why I don't watch the news any more. I'll read something from Huffington Post before I even turn to Global News or CTV or something. And let's not even mention Seattle's news where it seems like every day another person is dead, mauled, raped, or a house has burned down.

There should be a news channel dedicated to humanitarian news.
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Originally Posted by Werewolf Girl View Post
Can't we get some positive news stories? Babies saved from burning buildings, people donating kidneys, charity work, true love, stuff like that? I need something to restore my faith in humanity, because at the moment I'm thinking that the earth should shake us off and send us all flying into space like a bunch of fucking fleas.
Apparently not. I just visited cbc.ca, cnn.com and news.yahoo.com to see if any of the "top stories" were remotely positive or uplifting. Not a single one. Good times!
post #18 of 31
I think it is obvious what happened here. That damn cat, walking around in his tuxedo, was offending this man's proletarian values. I mean, shit, if he would've had the common decency to take off the monocle when he entered the trailer.
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"I can haz che--shank!"

Happynews! Thank you black-faced RDJ!
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I really just hate people sometimes.
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My girlfriend's dad killed and ate her pet bunny when she was a child. His excuse (I've asked him): he was hungry. He weighs around 350 lbs.
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My girlfriend's dad killed and ate her pet bunny when she was a child. His excuse (I've asked him): he was hungry. He weighs around 350 lbs.
Rabbit's are raging assholes and are tasty, though.
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Oh, a rabbit? pfh, whatever. You can just get another down at the local store, any store will do, really. After all they breed just like rabbits!
post #25 of 31
Wow, you guys are as cold as he is. Enjoy realizing you're gay in your 40s and never finding true love (true story too).
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Originally Posted by Gabe Powers View Post
My girlfriend's dad killed and ate her pet bunny when she was a child. His excuse (I've asked him): he was hungry. He weighs around 350 lbs.
The hungry bit was to cover up the truth. The rabbit was a road block to his finding the Grail.
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My girlfriend's dad killed and ate her pet bunny when she was a child. His excuse (I've asked him): he was hungry. He weighs around 350 lbs.
"This rabbit didn't have a number on its back, did it?"
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Originally Posted by travishall456 View Post
"This rabbit didn't have a number on its back, did it?"
I was thinking the same thing!
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Originally Posted by Doc Happenin View Post
"I can haz che--shank!"
Even in a depressing thread, funny is funny.
post #30 of 31
Poor little Boots.
post #31 of 31
Pity the poor cat had to pay for the lolcat meme, but it was bound to happen sometime.
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