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post #51 of 70
3/26/08 at 5:23pm
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Originally Posted by neoolong View Post
Were there as many big pictures coming out in the summer ten years ago as there are now?
Oh sure. I still worked a movie theater then and it was something big and new every weekend.
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post #52 of 70
3/26/08 at 5:24pm
Wait, ten years ago is only 1998. When did Speed come out again? 1994? I must be getting old.
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post #53 of 70
3/26/08 at 6:00pm
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Originally Posted by Moltisanti View Post
I'll agree that the plane splash looked bad even back in '97.

But what I was musing (or rambling) about earlier is that we used to get a lot of summer movies that looked like they'd be fun based on just the plot and the star. Now it's just the same crop of super hero movies, animated CGI flicks, or films based on children's books that we get year after dull year.

Take SPEED for instance. All you knew about that movie going in was that it was about the guy from BILL AND TED being on a bus that blow up if it went under 50 MPH. That's all we needed to know to get us in the theater. AIR FORCE ONE was the same way. Harrison Ford is the President and his plane is taken over. Sold!

Sure, I want to see IRON MAN like tomorrow but even though I'm not an expert on the character I feel like there's less mystery surrounding the film. Same goes for THE DARK KNIGHT or the new HULK film. I'm interested in all of those but I don't feel like I'm gonna see something that's gonna be all that different from all the other comic book movies we've had over the last 8 summers.
It does seem like the contemporary action film set in the "real world" is a dying genre. Do we have The Matrix to blame for that?
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post #54 of 70
3/26/08 at 6:22pm
I see it more in terms of super hero movies. THE MATRIX was basically just the late 90's version of flicks like TOTAL RECALL or T2.

The sequels aside, I'd love for something like THE MATRIX to happen again. Something huge that, while heavily influenced by other properties, is its own beast. Not based on something I've read before or saw on a cartoon.

That's really what has been lacking in summer movies, though to be fair THE MATRIX wasn't a summer film. Just felt like one.
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post #55 of 70
3/26/08 at 6:42pm
Feature Harrison Ford's version of Blue Steel on a movie poster and you'll get my $10.

Fun film. I don't get the haters.
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post #56 of 70
3/26/08 at 6:43pm
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Originally Posted by Moltisanti View Post
That's really what has been lacking in summer movies, though to be fair THE MATRIX wasn't a summer film. Just felt like one.
If came out in April of '99 I believe and to think how time moves forward. It'll be ten years after that movie came out next year. Ten years.

Just seems like yesterday how I was steeped in Matrix mythology due to my college roomate when I was in school.
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post #57 of 70
3/27/08 at 5:50pm
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I agree with Moltisanti quite a bit in regards to the superhero movie thing. I could really go for some mid-90s-style high concept nonsense.
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post #58 of 70
3/27/08 at 5:51pm
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Originally Posted by The Gayest View Post
I agree with Moltisanti quite a bit in regards to the superhero movie thing. I could really go for some mid-90s-style high concept nonsense.
What does "high concept" mean anyway?

Does it mean the people behind the concept were "high" when they conceived them?
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post #59 of 70
3/27/08 at 7:42pm
Something relatively easy to explain in a sentence or to so that the lowest common denominator can the plot. Simple characters in a genre film type of thing. At least, that's my understanding of it. Could be a good or bad thing, though it tends to be seen as a flaw now.

See Speed or Die Hard. How hard is it to grasp the plot? Cop has to stop a madman who rigged the bus he's on so that it'll explode if it falls below 50 mph.
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post #60 of 70
3/27/08 at 10:07pm
But that isn't DIE HARD'S plot.
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post #61 of 70
3/27/08 at 10:11pm
Speed or Die Hard. Speed...
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post #62 of 70
3/27/08 at 10:55pm
Yes.
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post #63 of 70
3/28/08 at 12:16am
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I would enjoy a return of the "Die Hard in X" movies. I remember there was a script for some masterpiece pitched as Die Hard in a Space Shuttle, with a hero that breaks his leg at the end of the first act and must defeat the terrorists trying to hijack the Space Shuttle with a broken leg. I think Stallone was attached. Might have been called "Ignition"?

I think we got inundated with those kind of movies, and they stopped being fun, but I'm ready to see another one.
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post #64 of 70
3/28/08 at 12:55am
AIR FORCE ONE was probably the end of the mainstream DIE HARD ripoffs. Interesting that it's about the only one that had a lead who was a bigger star than Willis.

I wonder if a film like that could be made in a straight-forward fashion today. Seems like the temptation would be too great to be overly-ironic about the whole situation.
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post #65 of 70
3/28/08 at 1:27am
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Originally Posted by The Gayest View Post
I would enjoy a return of the "Die Hard in X" movies. I remember there was a script for some masterpiece pitched as Die Hard in a Space Shuttle, with a hero that breaks his leg at the end of the first act and must defeat the terrorists trying to hijack the Space Shuttle with a broken leg. I think Stallone was attached. Might have been called "Ignition"?

I think we got inundated with those kind of movies, and they stopped being fun, but I'm ready to see another one.
Someone needs to make a movie out of Storming Intrepid. If I remember right the book ended with a chase between space shuttles during reentry. You can't tell me that wouldn't be fun to watch. Keep it set in the Ruskie fearing '80s and everyone will have fun.
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post #66 of 70
3/28/08 at 1:31am
Snakes on a Plane? I think the era of making a straight action movie like the 80's or 90's is over. Or at least it wouldn't do that well.

You have Rambo, but I think that that only got big by going really really extreme on the brutality. I mean even if you compare that to Commando or something, Rambo is still more brutal.

I picked up Men of War, Only Deadly Ground, Above the Law, Hard to Kill, and Torque recently, though some haven't arrived yet. Damn you all for making me spend money.

Catherine Bell in Men of War? I totally forgot about that. And I think it could make for an interesting double feature with Rambo. Both have the badass action star leading a group of mercenaries killing little Asian people (and Australians).

"Lighter than you. Darker than me."
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post #67 of 70
3/1/09 at 8:36am
Just reading up on old thoughts about 90s action movies. Was compelled to post here because of TAKEN. Now THERE's a film that was sold simply with the concept of a pissed off Liam Neeson getting his daughter back. That's all you needed to know.
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post #68 of 70
3/1/09 at 4:54pm
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Originally Posted by Arjen Rudd View Post
The Harrison Ford president character could be played by an bald eagle wrapped in an American flag firing a gun with an apple pie and a baseball tattooed on his beak.
If that eagle was Sam from the Muppets, it would be the most of incredible movie ever made.
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post #69 of 70
3/2/09 at 4:50pm
Superhero films have definitely replaced those absurd action movies, and I completely agree with Molti about the lack of mystery to these superhero films.
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post #70 of 70
10/9/10 at 2:26am
Just finished watching this along with a bout of Con Air. I didn't even mean to do a double-feature of Die-Hard-on-a-Plane movies from 1997. It just kinda worked out that way. It was a fun double feature. 97 was a big action movie year for me. I still enjoyed Air Force One while laughing at it. I LOVE Con Air. But not for the action.
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