Secret Invasion - Attack of the Skrulls - Page 2

Fixed.

ETA: That guy still gets work. And not crap work. Actually high visibility projects.


And dear lord, that is apalling. Is Greg Land Disease catching? And if it is, who's it going to take next?

It's a shame because I liked Mack's style in his Daredevil work, and even in the New Avengers issue. I'm more forgiving of him appropriating things for his collage pieces, but in straightforward pencil work like this it's unforgivable, especially at this volume. Even with the collages, an artist can easily make whatever reference photos they need, so it's hard to justify him swiping like this.

How the fuck does Marvel allow this to happen, or at least happen unpunished? It's all so well documented, why hasn't anything been done? Isn't this all legally actionable?

EDIT: In browsing the thread in which all the swipes were posted I found Mack's defense, and it's fucking long...

http://forum.newsarama.com/showpost....4&postcount=71

If any of you bothered reading it, it's an interesting idea that I'd be more inclined to let pass if it weren't for the fact that he's been documented for swiping in situations where there is no conceivable reason it would have any positive impact on the storytelling.

Well, he did sort of cover that for Wolverine, at least in one panel. It doesn't matter, though. The man is a fuck and if this was his intention, the comic should have credited the other creators he stole from.

This seems to have massively derailed into a thread about why David Mack sucks, which is nothing new, because he always has.

So, anyone have theories on the supposedly big skrull reveal in the first issue?

I've heard Sue Storm from a few sources, but after NA39 I wouldn't rule out Johnny. I think the obvious choice out of that group isn't going to wind up being a Skrull. The one I think I'm most interested in is the reveal in Secret Invasion #2, because Bendis said that it was his favorite reveal and the one he was looking forward to the most.

Wouldn't Franklin or Valerie make more sense?

My review for Secret Invasion #1 will be up tonight and I'll post the link in here. It's not terrible.

Sweet Christmas!

Someone spoil it.

The 70s are back.

I usually have the first part of my reviews as a general overview of the issue, then I do eventually get into spoilers. But, I'll let people know before I dip into spoiler territory.

Yeah I'd like it spoiled. I think reading it wont annoy me as much if I know of all the Skrull revealing retconing going in, and I can just look at it as a story. If one Skrull speaks yiddish though, I fucking swear...

Secret Invasion #1 Review

If you don't want to be spoiled, then you can read the entire review that is on the page, just do not click to expand the article by clicking "Read More" because I cut it off where the spoilers begin. If you do want to see spoilers, expand the article.

What's "Used" refer too? People that were manipulated by the Skrulls, or had temp doubles like the Daredevil in last weeks New Avengers?

Yes.

This was stupid.

I still can't understand how he survived being stabbed a dozen times in Wolverine: Origins... then again, that comic sucks ass, so, whatever.

I listed him in the "Used!" category because I'm not convinced he's actually dead.

Either way, he wasn't revealed in SI #1.

Bah, I should have thought of that one. I'm stealing it for future reviews.

I think it's time to bring these guys out of retirement:

In the Wolvie comic, Logan's son (what? yes!) stabs Dugan a bunch with his ridiculous-looking claws. Lotsa red blood, etc.

I actually think that's when I dropped the book, so no idea how they explained his recovery.

Do they explain why all female clones and male spawn of Logan have two claws a hand instead of three?

I always assumed it was due to the exchange rate.

In semi-seriousness, I think it has to do with character copyright, and protecting their property.

Copyright is based on the details of a fictional creation, and having Wolverine be the only character with three claws makes him distinct (legally speaking) from all other characters with two claws.

If every other Marvel character had three claws, Marvel's argument for what makes Wolverine protectable shrinks, because the detail ceases to be unique to the character.

I read an interview with Bendis where he confirmed that he's using them.

Is that Prologue an online-only thing? I'd like a hard copy of it.

I read the issue and thought it was pretty fun. It's not anywhere near conclusive regarding how the story will turn out, but I'm keen to see what happens next. One thing I did notice, and really didn't like, is that the story just starts without giving you any context. For somebody who hasn't been following any of the build-up, it must be pretty damn confusing. An otherwise obnoxiously dismissive review I read pointed it out it's like you walked into a movie and the first reel was missing.

Also, does lordesley ever provide any insight into his opinions without prompting, or does he just do his best Devin Jr. impression every time?

Logan's son actually has 3 claws on each hand. The third one comes out of each wrist underneath, kind of like Spidey's stingers did pre-BND.

So you're saying he's super fucking lame?

Yup.

She has a third one, but it comes out of... her FOOT.

*rolls eyes*

And, yeah, Logan's son is lame-o.

Newsarama, right? I think he said their role will be reeeeeally small.

Fuck Bendis. I say let the SKK loose and put down every last one of those green-skinned, shapeshifting bastards down with MAXIMUM FORCE!

I still wish the Hulk had won in WORLD WAR HULK and made Planet Earth his bitch. Sigh.

I agree. I thought WWH was such a great, fun story, but the ending was a huge let down.

I'm not 100% sure, but in Wolverine: Origin Logan (James) he has two bone claws that come out, and with the adamantium skeleton he has three. But, like I said, I'm not sure.

Re-read the X-23 mini-series...or not.

Nope. Three claws of bone.

So I read the first issue of Secret Invasion and I'm a little confused. Hopefully they'll explain a bit more later on down the road, I appreciate mysteries but I don't like outright confusion.

I'll pass. Zero times was enough.

Well there you go. It's been a few years.

How did it end? What's Hulk's current status? Was he in the middle of winning the war in the middle of the NYC streets when suddenly he stopped with tears welling up and said "But I'm missing the whole point!" or something?

Tony Stark unleashed the Sentry on the Hulk. The two had a huge, knock down, drag out brawl, resulting in both getting worn out. Hulk finally reverts to Banner form. One of Hulk's Warbound - Miek - kills Rick Jones and admits that he was indirectly responsible for the destruction of the spacecraft that blew up on Sakaar and killed Hulk's wife and unborn child. He allowed the ship to self-destruct because he didn't want their rampage of vengeance to end in peace, but instead wanted to continue the rampage. Miek knew that if he allowed the spacecraft to self-destruct, Hulk would continue his vengeance on earth.

When Banner finds this out, he changes back to Hulk and kills Miek, then proceeds to release large amounts of energy to take out the entire earth. At this point, Tony activates several satellite devices that fire upon Hulk until he reverts back to Banner again. Then the collect him and place him in an impenetrable prison in a facility 3 miles underground. Banner's been there since.

Meanwhile, there's a new, more powerful, more ruthless Hulk on the rampage. It is currently unknown who it is.

I think the confusion is appropriate to the story. In terms of what's going on and how, it makes sense you're going "What the fuck?" at first. If you mean having no sense of context (as in, where the Elektra body came from and things like that), then yeah that's bullshit.

The big revelation works perfectly I think. Bendis chose the perfect set of characters to bring out at that point to get you both interested in what happens next and trying to figure it out yourself.

Id forgotten all about that...I always expected the Sentry/Hulk fight ending with Sentry turning into The Void, turning the whole thing into a monster smash fight....guess that one would be too predictable.
As for SI, its an interesting and entertaining read, but it still could trun into a massive BND type clusterfuck...the dangers there already.

Mighty Avengers #12 is a good issue to pick up that ties into Secret Invasion. Nick Fury, anyone?

Mighty Avengers #12 Review

To what extent can the Skrulls control the change in the body they make? For example, when Wolverine get's bloodied up, can they control the color of the blood which drops from him body? There are a few Hero's who are on the list of being suspected but I think could be cleared if they can't. Wolvering being the prime example. I think Jessica Jones get bloodied up in "Alias" but I'd have to reread the issues is I remember correctly.