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post #51 of 75
3/28/08 at 5:51pm
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
That's Obi Wan to Han Solo while on the Death Star. Please turn in your movie-geek license immediately and report for remedial training.
Hold on, let me fix it:

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[sarcasm]Is that a movie quote? If it is, that's fuckin' awesome.[/sarcasm]
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post #52 of 75
3/28/08 at 5:57pm
duly noted, I stand corrected.
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post #53 of 75
3/28/08 at 9:01pm
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Hold on, let me fix it:
It took you TWO postings to be a smartass? How inefficient.
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post #54 of 75
3/28/08 at 9:16pm
If you have to ask why this discussion was derailed, it reminds me a lot of THE THING. anyway, if you're looking to get rid of LatinoInferno, let me just say:

"You're gonna need a bigger boat"

because otherwise he'll say to you:

"I'll be back."















movies.
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post #55 of 75
3/29/08 at 9:42am
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If you have to ask why this discussion was derailed, it reminds me a lot of THE THING. anyway, if you're looking to get rid of LatinoInferno, let me just say:

"You're gonna need a bigger boat"

because otherwise he'll say to you:

"I'll be back."
And you would reply, "Only in a Re-Run."

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post #56 of 75
3/29/08 at 10:14am
What the fuck is going on here?
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post #57 of 75
1/28/09 at 6:03pm
Just saw the movie. This has to be the ultimate redneck wish fulfillment movie and Jed has to be the ultimate redneck. Former star quarterback, excellent hunter, says cool shit like "Don't cry. Let it turn to something else", gets to be the leader of the resistance movement to take back the United States, earns the respect of Powers Boothe, etc.

As for the movie itself, it's a pretty silly movie. The scenario put out is laughable today and maybe even back then but while it's playing, it's somewhat plausible and gets you in the action almost right away. There's no 20 minute getting to know the characters first act. The action pretty much starts in the first 5 minutes (that's with credits even) and doesn't let up. I was really surprised how well this thing held up. It's still awesome.
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post #58 of 75
1/28/09 at 6:12pm
All I can say is that, as a (small) child of the '80s, Red Dawn scared the living bejeezus out of me.
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post #59 of 75
1/28/09 at 6:19pm
I'm glad I don't hunt. Because Red Dawn teaches that you have to drink the blood of your first kill! The spirit of the wild.

"Wasn't so bad... wasn't so bad...


...wasn't so bad..."
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post #60 of 75
1/28/09 at 6:27pm
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Originally Posted by Hans Gruber's EYE CONDITION! View Post
I'm glad I don't hunt. Because Red Dawn teaches that you have to drink the blood of your first kill! The spirit of the wild.

"Wasn't so bad... wasn't so bad...


...wasn't so bad..."
"That's the spirit of the deer. Once you drink the blood, there's something different about you. Always."

What was great was that whole thing was presented with a straight face. It might have been dry humor on the part of Milius though. Just like that sight gag of the famous NRA bumper sticker followed by a shot of a Russian soldier prying a gun from a dead man's cold hands. Talk about a director who could use more work.
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post #61 of 75
1/28/09 at 6:41pm
The movie wasted the talent of the lovable Pepe Serna (Scarface, Buckaroo Banzai). He's only in one shot.
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post #62 of 75
1/29/09 at 12:17am
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Ultimately I guess I liked RED DAWN because I enjoyed seeing Milius taking these materialistic and selfish kids of America and making them into soldiers fighting for a cause beyond shopping malls and crappy pop music, though apparently some folks took it too seriously and missed the whole point.
It was the 80s! They marched out of their malls with rifles to ensure their materialistic, yuppie ways could survive!
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post #63 of 75
1/29/09 at 12:44am
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Originally Posted by dynamotv View Post
Just saw the movie. This has to be the ultimate redneck wish fulfillment movie and Jed has to be the ultimate redneck. Former star quarterback, excellent hunter, says cool shit like "Don't cry. Let it turn to something else", gets to be the leader of the resistance movement to take back the United States, earns the respect of Powers Boothe, etc.

As for the movie itself, it's a pretty silly movie. The scenario put out is laughable today and maybe even back then but while it's playing, it's somewhat plausible and gets you in the action almost right away. There's no 20 minute getting to know the characters first act. The action pretty much starts in the first 5 minutes (that's with credits even) and doesn't let up. I was really surprised how well this thing held up. It's still awesome.
This is great, because up until the point you say "it's still awesome" you're basically tearing it to shreads.

But then again, Red Dawn is that sort of movie - you can spot all the shit that's wrong with it from a mile away but you still love it.

Kinda like if you had a kid that walked all fucked up.
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post #64 of 75
1/29/09 at 12:52am
Another one of those movies of the eighties that modern film geeks love with all their black little hearts that I'll never understand. It was bad then, it's bad now.

That shot of the bumper sticker and the gun being pulled from the hand told me right away what I was in for, and subtlety was not it. You can practically see Milius ejaculating just off-screen for most of the running time. The attempts at human emotion were embarrassing.

At least Poledouris did his work.
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post #65 of 75
1/29/09 at 1:07am
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Originally Posted by Chavez View Post
This is great, because up until the point you say "it's still awesome" you're basically tearing it to shreads.

But then again, Red Dawn is that sort of movie - you can spot all the shit that's wrong with it from a mile away but you still love it.

Kinda like if you had a kid that walked all fucked up.
It is that kind of movie. Yeah there's some silly stuff in it but Milius takes it so dead serious and it's so earnest, that you just roll with it. This would make a great double feature with Mark Wahlbergs Super Redneck classic, "Shooter".
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post #66 of 75
1/29/09 at 1:13am
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Originally Posted by Greg David View Post
That shot of the bumper sticker and the gun being pulled from the hand told me right away what I was in for, and subtlety was not it. You can practically see Milius ejaculating just off-screen for most of the running time. The attempts at human emotion were embarrassing.

At least Poledouris did his work.
Someone needs a sense of humor. I'm certain there was a pro gun agenda in the film but that shot's existence was all about making you laugh. The fact that it might have been meant to be taken seriously makes it more hilarious.
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post #67 of 75
1/29/09 at 1:18am
I don't doubt that it was intended as humor. The joke would have worked better if it weren't so obvious. Unless this is intended to be something along the lines of Airplane, subtlety still counts.

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The fact that it might have been meant to be taken seriously makes it more hilarious.
Yeah, this falls into that "ironic enjoyment" zone that I've never gotten behind. I've never found a film missing its targets to be funny.
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post #68 of 75
1/29/09 at 1:28am
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I don't doubt that it was intended as humor. The joke would have worked better if it weren't so obvious. Unless this is intended to be something along the lines of Airplane, subtlety still counts.



Yeah, this falls into that "ironic enjoyment" zone that I've never gotten behind. I've never found a film missing its targets to be funny.
Greg, the target for this movie is the Red Blooded A*m*e*r*i*c*a*n MAN. The kind of man who opens his bottle of Coors with his teeth! The kind of man who cooks his steaks for 1 minute on each side so it's nice and bloody! The kind of man who shoots deer and people for fu...oh you get the picture.

Seriously I saw this in a theater packed with active duty Air Force, Navy and Marines in the late teens and twenties and they ate it up. As great an experience as seeing Wrath of Khan in a theater full of Trekies.
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post #69 of 75
1/29/09 at 1:41am
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I don't doubt that it was intended as humor. The joke would have worked better if it weren't so obvious. Unless this is intended to be something along the lines of Airplane, subtlety still counts.
If you're watching a movie like Red Dawn for subtlety, then you're watching the wrong movie. It's all about the gun porn.



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Yeah, this falls into that "ironic enjoyment" zone that I've never gotten behind. I've never found a film missing its targets to be funny.
Don't know what to say about that except that a whole world opens up when you can enjoy a movie ironically.
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post #70 of 75
1/29/09 at 1:44am
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Originally Posted by dynamotv View Post
Don't know what to say about that except that a whole world opens up when you can enjoy a movie ironically.
I'm sure it does. But there are decades worth of legitimately great movies I haven't seen yet. The wide world of irony can live without me.
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post #71 of 75
1/29/09 at 5:31pm
My uncle thinks this movie is one of the greatest ever made.

We rarely agree on movies.
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post #72 of 75
1/29/09 at 5:50pm
I really wish there was a screen cap somewhere of that kid giving a thumbs up as the helicopter blows him away. That was hysterical.
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post #73 of 75
1/29/09 at 8:50pm


You're welcome. Anybody want to caption this?
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post #74 of 75
1/31/09 at 2:53am
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Originally Posted by Cylon Baby View Post
... the Red Blooded A*m*e*r*i*c*a*n MAN. The kind of man who opens his bottle of Coors with his teeth...
Even given that Red Dawn takes place west of the Mississippi, every true red-blooded American man knows that if you ain't drinkin Bud yer a faggot.
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post #75 of 75
1/31/09 at 4:39am
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You're welcome. Anybody want to caption this?
The extras quickly learned that standing outside of Harry Dean Stanton's trailer was an added bonus on this shoot.
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