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Chewer use of the word 'hipster'

post #1 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:21pm
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I always find myself amused when people use this word on the board because I suspect it's being used to simply mean 'someone cooler/better dressed/with a hotter girl than me.'

Now, I hate hipsters, but I understand that, as an example, nobody in CLOVERFIELD was a hipster. I think this use of the word hipster is like in the 60s when people assumed everybody with long hair was a hippie.
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post #2 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:29pm
The term hasn't come into use here in Canada so I have no idea what an actual hipster is. Can I be clued in please?

ETA: I've googled the term but it seems to be a term as vague and elusive as hippie or Gen Xer.
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post #3 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:30pm
when I first read reviews of Cloverfield on CHUD and saw the word "hipster", I winced.
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post #4 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:30pm
The Cloverfield kids seemed like yuppies to me.
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post #5 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:30pm
More Jeremy's problem than Chewers' but I agree. Agreed.
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post #6 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:31pm
But since those posts where we sorted it out got eaten:

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post #7 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:32pm
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Originally Posted by Ryan S~ View Post
The term hasn't come into use here in Canada so I have no idea what an actual hipster is. Can I be clued in please?

ETA: I've googled the term but it seems to be a term as vague and elusive as hippie or Gen Xer.
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post #8 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:33pm
Jinx you owe me a coke, Phil!
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post #9 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:33pm
'Hipster' is woefully overused, and I've started to catch myself when I'm on the verge of saying/writing it.

And in no way does it apply to young people with lots of money, as in Cloverfield - while that type might fall into the category of hipster here and there(see trust fund hipster for example), using it to name someone who just cut you off in their new 540i while doing coke off of a passenger's freshly-installed fake rack is totally incorrect.
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post #10 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:34pm
Isn't it just people who read Pitchfork or dress like those Cloverfield kids? Because I might be in trouble then.
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post #11 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:35pm
No, the guy dressed better than me with the hot girlfriend is an asshole.

It's a term that is not as tired as fanboy, but it's close.
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post #12 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:36pm
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Ahhhhhh...so ninety percent of the people I went to film school with. Good to know.

I assume a love of obscure local bands or ironically loving disco is the musical taste of hipsters?

ETA: Didn't Devin once admit to loving Pabst? Or is it okay to enjoy the occasional hipsterism as long as it doesn't become a lifestyle?
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post #13 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:38pm
Their Olympics are pretty entertaining, though- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAO4EVMlpwM
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post #14 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:39pm
The posts weren't eaten - Owen gets the ball rolling at the top of page 10.
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post #15 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:41pm
With all the derision that my wife has dumped on my ratty Chuck Taylors and my "embarrassing" taste for the High Life, that bingo card is like a reverse-psychology victory for her.
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post #16 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:42pm
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That chart is missing the guy wearing girl pants.
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post #17 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:43pm
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Originally Posted by Diva View Post
Oh yeah, I see plenty of those slimy fucks every day. I was wondering what it took to be considered a "hipster", and this chart answered my question.

I especially see a lot of the "white boy afro" and "Jagger cut"
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post #18 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:44pm
Exactly, or beards or ugly as shit aviator framed eyeglasses. For that matter.

But that bingo card is dead on. 'cept for the cabie hat. I imagine Stormin' wouldn't take that too lightly.

But essentially in my view, Hispters took the smarmy you think you're too fuckin cool for school view that Gen X'ers had in the previous decade.
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post #19 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:45pm
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Originally Posted by billylove View Post
That chart is missing the guy wearing girl pants.
I thought girl pants were emo?

ETA: I'm getting too old to keep up with labels
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post #20 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:45pm
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That chart's pretty old, and partially out of date, but you get the idea.
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post #21 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:48pm
When I was at the airport 2 weeks ago, I saw a dude wearing horn rimmed "Harry Caul" glasses. Would that be considered hipster?
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post #22 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:49pm
Perhaps but when I was at the arclight for the last LA chewer meetup. I saw some guy who looked my age but had a memeber's only jacket on. There's no fuckin way that was worn other than for some sort of "irony" bullshit.
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post #23 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:52pm
I have an embarassing amount of the stuff on that card. Does it matter that I don't own/wear/use them with a self-aware, ironic detachment? No? Well, piss off, then.
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post #24 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:52pm
This reminds me of the nerd/fanboy dichotomy in that most (probably not all) of those who seem to throw around the word "hipster" as an insult seem to be doing it defensively. Hipster A/nerd A calls hipster B/nerd B a "hipster/fanboy" so that hipster A/nerd A can feel more secure in his non-hipster-ness/non-fanboyishness.

The analogy doesn't quite flow in terminology, but that's only because no one's come up with the "acceptable" low-level version of "hipster" to match geek/nerd/whatever-functions-as-the-socially-acceptable-version-of-fanboy. If this were to happen, the distinction would still not be clear to people who aren't, in some way, hipsters, just as the distinction between geeks and fanboys probably wouldn't be clear to anyone who doesn't care about Star Wars or Star Trek, has never read a comic book, and thinks Buffy the Vampire Slayer sounds like the dumbest thing ever.

The Onion AV Club covered this ground last year, incidentally. It's a pretty decent opinion piece.
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post #25 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:52pm
At my old college, at the Communication's building, all I ever had to do was look down, and I'd see tons of (mostly) black converse sneakers go by during the break between classes. I've got a pair of Jackass endorsed Converse sneakers, but I only wear them every so often. Mostly because I don't see them sold anymore.
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post #26 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:53pm
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Originally Posted by DaveB View Post
This reminds me of the nerd/fanboy dichotomy in that most (probably not all) of those who seem to throw around the word "hipster" as an insult seem to be doing it defensively. Hipster A/nerd A calls hipster B/nerd B a "hipster/fanboy" so that hipster A/nerd A can feel more secure in his non-hipster-ness/non-fanboyishness.

The analogy doesn't quite flow in terminology, but that's only because no one's come up with the "acceptable" low-level version of "hipster" to match geek/nerd/whatever-functions-as-the-socially-acceptable-version-of-fanboy. If this were to happen, the distinction would still not be clear to people who aren't, in some way, hipsters, just as the distinction between geeks and fanboys probably wouldn't be clear to anyone who doesn't care about Star Wars or Star Trek, has never read a comic book, and thinks Buffy the Vampire Slayer sounds like the dumbest thing ever.

The Onion AV Club covered this ground last year, incidentally. It's a pretty decent opinion piece.
A lot of the more 'avant garde' NYC hipsters - the ones who go to Motherfucker or Misshapes - embrace the word hipster now.
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post #27 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:53pm
There's something so perfect about telling people that they're using the term for "condescending, too-cool-for-school douchebag" incorrectly in a condescending and too-cool-for-school douchebag manner.
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post #28 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:56pm
It's not condescension because that what it is. It's the attitude you get from the other side. How else would you describe it?
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post #29 of 158
3/27/08 at 5:59pm
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Originally Posted by DaveB View Post
The analogy doesn't quite flow in terminology, but that's only because no one's come up with the "acceptable" low-level version of "hipster" to match geek/nerd/whatever-functions-as-the-socially-acceptable-version-of-fanboy.
No one over 30 should get too hung up on what to label themselves. But if you can make a living out of riling people up over it, go crazy.
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post #30 of 158
3/27/08 at 6:02pm
You really shouldn't even get hung up on labels anyway even before 30. Who cares.
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post #31 of 158
3/27/08 at 6:03pm
That chart is sort of a grab bag for lots of different types of people.

Though, I'd like to ask Devin if he sees any differences/similarities in the NY/LA hipster types?


It's just as bad as the emo thing in my opinion.

All I know is that I need to start figuring out my outfit for the Rilo Kiley show next month.
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post #32 of 158
3/27/08 at 6:05pm
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
You really shouldn't even gut hung on labels anyway even before 30. Who cares.
Your Ed O'neil avatar is perfect for this post, Ed.
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post #33 of 158
3/27/08 at 6:05pm
Rilo Kiley? I thought you guys cream their jeans for Wilco?
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post #34 of 158
3/27/08 at 6:06pm
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Originally Posted by Rene (Mr.Eko) View Post
Your Ed O'neil avatar is perfect for this post, Ed.
I see what you're saying Eko even though my inability to proofread comes right out with that statement. Thankfully I was able to use the edit button.
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post #35 of 158
3/27/08 at 6:06pm
Wilco is for aging, faded hipsters.
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post #36 of 158
3/27/08 at 6:07pm
And their vinyl records are always expensive.
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post #37 of 158
3/27/08 at 6:07pm
Shows what I know, which is none. But I never claimed to know anything anyway.
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post #38 of 158
3/27/08 at 6:10pm
How about the term hipster doofus? Anything wrong with that?
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post #39 of 158
3/27/08 at 6:12pm
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Originally Posted by Phil View Post
No one over 30 should get too hung up on what to label themselves. But if you can make a living out of riling people up over it, go crazy.
No one should get too hung up on most of the stuff we talk about on this board, maybe politics and religion excepted. Still, if something's worth discussing at all, it's worth discussing intelligently.

For the record, my in-laws saw Wilco on SNL a few weeks ago and thought they were fantastic. They've bypassed even aging, faded hipster appeal.
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post #40 of 158
3/27/08 at 6:12pm
Well it's a Seinfeld coined term. I suppose it's fine.
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post #41 of 158
3/27/08 at 6:14pm
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Originally Posted by MikeShaynePI View Post
How about the term hipster doofus? Anything wrong with that?

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post #42 of 158
3/27/08 at 6:16pm
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
Rilo Kiley? I thought you guys cream their jeans for Wilco?
If you've heard of the band, then it's already passe for hipsters.
Except maybe Sufjan Stevens... he's still popular.
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post #43 of 158
3/27/08 at 6:17pm
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Originally Posted by Phil View Post
Wilco is for aging, faded hipsters.
Aging Hipster. Please don't forget the capital letters, as you can clearly hear them spoken whenever the 18 year olds discuss them.
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post #44 of 158
3/27/08 at 6:19pm
When you say Aging Hipsters you mean the ones that are 23-25 correct? Jesus, I knew I was fucked.
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post #45 of 158
3/27/08 at 6:19pm
It's funny how many of the things on the bingo card can just be accessories for an old man.
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post #46 of 158
3/27/08 at 6:20pm
Hipster - somone who defines himself or herself in contrast to what is popular.

Hipsters refuse to like good stuff if it gets too trendy, and for that reason they lose my respect. They also seem to possess a smug satisfaction due to their constant attempts to stay at the forefront of what is not yet fashionable.
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post #47 of 158
3/27/08 at 6:21pm
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Originally Posted by Graynadian View Post
Hipster - somone who defines himself or herself in contrast to what is popular.

Hipsters refuse to like good stuff if it gets too popular, and for that reason they lose my respect. They also seem to possess a smug satisfaction due to their constant attempts to stay at the forefront of what is not yet accepted.
On the money, my friend. On the fuckin money!

And miller, you're right. It is like dressing like an old guy. Cardigans, Argyle Sweaters, and that fuckin Member's Only Jacket. No sir, I will not dress like I'm 78 when I'm 24. Not now, not ever.
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post #48 of 158
3/27/08 at 6:23pm
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Originally Posted by DaveB View Post
Still, if something's worth discussing at all, it's worth discussing intelligently.
Yeah, but this thread wasn't meant for discussion. But while we're here, Graynadian nailed it.

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For the record, my in-laws saw Wilco on SNL a few weeks ago and thought they were fantastic. They've bypassed even aging, faded hipster appeal.
I was only speaking for myself- an aging, faded hipster who likes Wilco.
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post #49 of 158
3/27/08 at 6:30pm
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Originally Posted by Diva View Post
Jinx you owe me a coke, Phil!
Quoting the Office; such a hipster thing to do.
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post #50 of 158
3/27/08 at 6:30pm
Whoa whoa whoa now, Cardigan's are pretty rad.

I have one on the way right now.
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