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post #51 of 102
4/3/08 at 8:32pm
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Originally Posted by Matt OCallaghan View Post
No, he tucked someone elses penis in and did it.
Then he ate the penis.
No, he wore vulvas, the weirdo.
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post #52 of 102
4/3/08 at 10:19pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll View Post
You know what is cruel and unusual? Making someone listen to 90 minutes of ambient Moby shit.
Well okay, I guess your music is a tiny bit more tolerant.
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post #53 of 102
4/7/08 at 6:56pm
Everytime i watch something like this i wish i could just give up all animal products. But unfortunatly i love meat too much. When it comes to the rotten slaughterhouse employees/fur traders/trainers, i just wish i could do to them as they have done to the animals.
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post #54 of 102
4/7/08 at 7:09pm
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There's always SPCA certified products! (Or whatever equivalent system you have around you.) Buying organic is good too, the animals are generally treated more humanely than in the Nazi factory farms.

And, you know, making sure your household cleaners and shampoo and stuff have the 'Not Tested on Animals' bunny, avoiding veal, foie gras, fur, and anything else especially barbaric and cruel, spaying or neutering your pets, etc. etc. There's plenty you can do to make the difference between being a cruel asshole human and a compassionate one without having to give up bacon.
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post #55 of 102
4/7/08 at 7:12pm
Plus, well cared meat, tastes a million times better. I had some hand fed beef several years ago, I have yet to taste a better steak.
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post #56 of 102
4/7/08 at 7:26pm
But veal's so damn tasty...
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post #57 of 102
4/7/08 at 7:38pm
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Please, please tell me that's a joke post.
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post #58 of 102
4/7/08 at 7:39pm
It is tasty.
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post #59 of 102
4/7/08 at 7:43pm
Cruel as it may be, veal does taste good.
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post #60 of 102
4/7/08 at 9:30pm
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I hear human baby tastes better.
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post #61 of 102
4/7/08 at 10:57pm
Hmmm...
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post #62 of 102
4/7/08 at 11:02pm
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Originally Posted by Werewolf Girl View Post
I hear human baby tastes better.
If you get them when they're fetus' they'll keep you young.
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post #63 of 102
4/7/08 at 11:19pm
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post #64 of 102
4/7/08 at 11:31pm
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Steven the Vegan!
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post #65 of 102
4/7/08 at 11:34pm
I officially nominate that annoying shit to have every animal tested product tested on HIM instead.
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post #66 of 102
4/10/08 at 12:08am
How about free-range meat products? I would assume they have decent lives right?
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post #67 of 102
4/10/08 at 1:54am
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_range
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post #68 of 102
4/10/08 at 2:30am
kill 'em as painlessly as possible
the stab and bleed aint necessary,
nor is veal or deliciousness
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post #69 of 102
4/10/08 at 2:35am
But, veal is good.
It's the only thing that keeps some people from eating the Irish.
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post #70 of 102
4/10/08 at 2:55am
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Originally Posted by Anderson View Post
But, veal is good.
It's the only thing that keeps some people from eating the Irish.
For which I am eternally grateful.

ETA: Gotta love the baby guts...you monster!
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post #71 of 102
4/10/08 at 7:00pm
Well, what have the Irish done for humanity lately, we should just let people eat them.
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post #72 of 102
4/10/08 at 7:26pm
I guess there is some notion that being pro-animal death is somehow a conservative notion, but not to get to Lion King about it, you have to accept that violence is a part of nature, and it's not unnatural to eat meat. Civilization has progressed so we both don't need to kill our own food, and we don't have to eat meat. I'm happy to not have to kill animals on a daily/weekly basis, but something has been lost in this translation, and I think a lot of people of my generation have a different relationship with death because of it, for better or ill.

Fur coats have become a target of hatred because of the mink industry and because peta is smart in attacking what is seen as a accessory for the rich. 150 years ago, I'm sure a good fur coat would have been much more practical. Now we have North Face. Are fur coats any better or worse than leather products?

I understand vegetarianism from a dietary point of view, and rejecting the current state of the meat industry. But all things we eat, we've killed.
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post #73 of 102
4/10/08 at 7:34pm
I forgot who said it first but someone said this in response to a vegetarian's comments on someone eating meat.

"If a plant screamed when you chopped it up for your salad, would you still eat the salad?"


I realize many people have or will never experience having to kill something themselves to be able to eat it. I've hunted and at first you find it a disgraceful process. But, it's a fact of life like Andre said.

Unless we can grow slabs of meat in a lab, I know there's already research being done on this, we will still have to kill animals and plants to live.

Of course there is always a more humane way to go about the business of providing sustenance and we as a human race should always look towards the better more humane solutions.
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post #74 of 102
4/10/08 at 7:54pm
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Originally Posted by billylove View Post
Unless we can grow slabs of meat in a lab, I know there's already research being done on this, we will still have to kill animals and plants to live.
There's even an organization for it.

"Does this taste like your Kobe beef to you?"
".... no, let's try again with the roast chicken tomorrow."
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post #75 of 102
4/10/08 at 11:46pm
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Originally Posted by Werewolf Girl View Post
Not really related, but I just learned a new phrase.

ADVANCED MEAT RECOVERY

Sounds kind of ominous.Cool.
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post #76 of 102
4/11/08 at 3:33pm
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Originally Posted by Andre Dellamorte View Post
I guess there is some notion that being pro-animal death is somehow a conservative notion, but not to get to Lion King about it, you have to accept that violence is a part of nature, and it's not unnatural to eat meat. Civilization has progressed so we both don't need to kill our own food, and we don't have to eat meat. I'm happy to not have to kill animals on a daily/weekly basis, but something has been lost in this translation, and I think a lot of people of my generation have a different relationship with death because of it, for better or ill.

Fur coats have become a target of hatred because of the mink industry and because peta is smart in attacking what is seen as a accessory for the rich. 150 years ago, I'm sure a good fur coat would have been much more practical. Now we have North Face. Are fur coats any better or worse than leather products?

I understand vegetarianism from a dietary point of view, and rejecting the current state of the meat industry. But all things we eat, we've killed.
Absolutely. Too many people have the idea that vegetarians don't eat meat because we think that all death is bad and nothing should ever be killed ever. (Actually that's fruititarians, those people are freaks.)

I simply have a big problem with factory farming, for a whole slew of reasons. But if I were stranded on a desert island or in some other ridiculous hypothetical situation I would totally kill and eat whatever furry critters were around.
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post #77 of 102
4/11/08 at 3:37pm
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Originally Posted by Werewolf Girl View Post
if I were stranded on a desert island or in some other ridiculous hypothetical situation I would totally kill and eat whatever furry critters were around.
Like the episode of the Simpsons where Homer raises the lobster, accidentally kills it, and then eats the lobster while crying.

Edit: Found this, forgot about it. http://www.cryingwhileeating.com/
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post #78 of 102
4/11/08 at 3:52pm
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Either that or I'd chicken out and be like Lisa licking slime off rocks.
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post #79 of 102
4/11/08 at 5:48pm
No berries that taste like burning?
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post #80 of 102
4/11/08 at 5:51pm
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No way, you've gotta get Ralph to check that shit out first.
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post #81 of 102
4/11/08 at 5:58pm
Also, anyone who's either drunk or on some other sort of illicit substance. Drunks are the easiest to convince in my experience.
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post #82 of 102
4/11/08 at 6:02pm
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Originally Posted by Werewolf Girl View Post
spaying or neutering your pets
You know, this always struck me as being far more barbaric and cruel towards an animal than just outright killing it. I can guarantee I'd rather have someone just up and gut me than forcibly remove my testicles.

But maybe that's just me. I'm odd that way.
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post #83 of 102
4/11/08 at 6:05pm
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Originally Posted by AlmightyShmun View Post
You know, this always struck me as being far more barbaric and cruel towards an animal than just outright killing it. I can guarantee I'd rather have someone just up and gut me than forcibly remove my testicles.

But maybe that's just me. I'm odd that way.
You obviously never owned a cat that was in heat.
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post #84 of 102
4/11/08 at 6:27pm
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Originally Posted by AlmightyShmun View Post
You know, this always struck me as being far more barbaric and cruel towards an animal than just outright killing it. I can guarantee I'd rather have someone just up and gut me than forcibly remove my testicles.

But maybe that's just me. I'm odd that way.
If the operation were done without anesthetic I`d agree with you.
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post #85 of 102
4/11/08 at 6:31pm
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Originally Posted by AlmightyShmun View Post
You know, this always struck me as being far more barbaric and cruel towards an animal than just outright killing it. I can guarantee I'd rather have someone just up and gut me than forcibly remove my testicles.
They can put fake balls back in, so really, the animal wouldn't have the foggiest notion that things have changed.
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post #86 of 102
4/11/08 at 6:32pm
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Originally Posted by Werewolf Girl View Post
If the operation were done without anesthetic I`d agree with you.
It's still mutilation. Sure it has positive effects, but if we're on a level so far above the animals that we can righteously decide to remove parts of them, then it seems like eating is not far away.
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post #87 of 102
4/11/08 at 6:40pm
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I know what you`re saying, but it does way way more good than harm, and is really the only humane way people can keep animals as companions. If you disagree with the practice then don`t have pets.

Clearly we are in a position of power over all other animals on the planet, it`s a question of abusing that power for our own gratification or using it in a compassionate way.
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post #88 of 102
4/11/08 at 6:42pm
Also to add to my 'you obviously never had a cat in heat' comment. You also, have never gotten really drunk and lost in a trailer park in the ghetto, so many fucking cats.
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post #89 of 102
4/11/08 at 6:44pm
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Originally Posted by James Kimbell View Post
It's still mutilation. Sure it has positive effects, but if we're on a level so far above the animals that we can righteously decide to remove parts of them, then it seems like eating is not far away.
Considering the number of stray animals that are put to death each year (According to the American Humane Association, an estimated 9.6 million animals are euthanized in the United States every year), I'd say "positive effects" is a bit of an understatement.
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post #90 of 102
4/11/08 at 7:20pm
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What he said.
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post #91 of 102
4/11/08 at 10:27pm
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Originally Posted by BubWilliams View Post
You obviously never owned a cat that was in heat.
Who then went after the family dachsund.

(And no, I'm not kidding. My mother had to pull our cat off of the poor dog).
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post #92 of 102
4/11/08 at 10:37pm
I guess a 'doggy-style' joke is a little too obvious.
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post #93 of 102
4/11/08 at 11:37pm
The best part was the utter look of horror on my brother's face as my mom pulled them apart. He just went silent, then looked at my mom and said, "Awww... that's just so wrong."

(And yes, we got the cat fixed, three days later - I personally drove Miss Hot Pants to the vet myself. Our intent was to get her fixed anyway, we were just waiting till she was old enough. But she went into heat in the meantime, at which point we just said, "Okay - she's old enough!")
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post #94 of 102
4/11/08 at 11:38pm
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Wait, this was a lady cat? I guess I've gotten the urge to dry hump things before...
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post #95 of 102
4/11/08 at 11:40pm
Yes, a lady cat. She kind of... I don't know how to describe what she tried to do. She kind of tried to - get underneath him to force him to hump her. It was twisted, please, I've been trying to blot it out of my mind for 25 years.
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post #96 of 102
4/12/08 at 12:00am
That is disturbingly hilarious.

I saw a bunch of cats fucking when I was drunkenly wandering that trailer park. That was pretty disturbing too.
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post #97 of 102
4/12/08 at 1:21am
Okay, I'm at the "clubbing pigs over the head with a wrench while calling them motherfuckers" part...

I see this, and I gotta admit that I'm shocked, disturbed, appalled, horrified, angered, disgusted, saddened, and a myriad of other similar emotions.

It's genuinely horrible, but on the other hand... I know I'll probably never give up meat and/or chicken while it exists and I can afford it.

I'm sure there's some grand philosophical definitions for internal emotional conflicts like that, but I'll just summarize it as "I'm torn".

But, in all seriousness, alot of motherfuckers in this video shouldn't be breathing air. Jesus H. Christ.

Also, being a huge fan of Bullshit!, I've seen the PETA episode that was referred to earlier in the thread. Yes, Penn, I know it's just a chicken. But, still, man.
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post #98 of 102
4/12/08 at 1:44am
Okay, I just saw the Chinese Fur Farm and Rodeo parts.

Fuck THAT.

Humans fuckin' SUCK.
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post #99 of 102
4/12/08 at 1:53am
Yeah, we do suck.

It's horrible stuff to watch, and same here with I'm still gonna eat meat, but then again I am a hypocrite.
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post #100 of 102
4/13/08 at 3:13am
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Originally Posted by BubWilliams View Post
Yeah, we do suck.

It's horrible stuff to watch, and same here with I'm still gonna eat meat, but then again I am a hypocrite.
Nah, hypocrite is if you start telling people to protest meats but don't follow up on it yourself.

I think the problem isn't really that people will see it and not care, but that people will see it, be affected by it, but... they'll forget about it. Unless they REALLY immerse themselves in the cause, personal life will eventually creep back in and all that stuff will get pushed to the backburner.

But, yeah, seeing that video make me wish I had some kind of onmipotence or something to do something about it as soon and widespread as possible. It's really depressing stuff.
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