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post #151 of 169
Word around the campfire is this is finally hitting DVD. Bad news: it's via Fox's burn-on-demand service. Means no extras. Hopefully means transfer from the elements they've been using for Comcast HD.

This and 49 other titles announced here.
post #152 of 169
There was a front page article, Martin. FUCKING TIME OUT!
post #153 of 169
It was a front-page story yesterday. I was busy. Doing something...important. Yeah.
post #154 of 169
One more time on MGMHD TONIGHT:

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Rolling Thunder tonight at 12:15AM/EDT
post #155 of 169
Russ wrote a piece about the film/DVD over at /Film:

http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/11/04/...g-thunder-dvd/

Checkitout.
post #156 of 169
Double post
post #157 of 169
There are only a handful of other revenge flicks that I could think of that does their business with such economy and effectiveness. But I can't think of another one that went to the bother of creating a goddamn other movie, with its own resonant themes and mechanics, before finally getting bloody. Maybe I'm overstating it, from the start to the end you can sense that Devane's and TLJ's emotional antenna's are screwy. Devane is tense when he should be relaxed and happy, relaxed when he should be livid. They're messed up, and something the movie subtly nudges you to notice from the first lines of the movie. Its fun matching Devane's sunglasses use and his restrained public persona.

Heywood Gould is fantastic. He wrote another movie I like (though its not anywhere as good as this one) called Fort Apache the Bronx, a conventional buddy cop movie starring Paul Newman that manages to rise above itself by allowing its characters to breathe between the typical action cop beats. The link from earlier in the thread, shows what Heywood provided, the emotional heft to Devane's family scenes, the killer lines that just pop, the shed scene, basically all the great stuff in the movie. It's even more impressive against Schrader's first draft, which I'm just getting into, but already displays his tendency for overindulgence and political hay-making. Rolling Thunder is a great example for the idea that its better to use a word instead of a sentence to express something, or better yet, nothing at all.
post #158 of 169
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Heywood Gould is fantastic. He wrote another movie I like (though its not anywhere as good as this one) called Fort Apache the Bronx, a conventional buddy cop movie starring Paul Newman that manages to rise above itself by allowing its characters to breathe between the typical action cop beats.
I'll definitely check this out. Thanks, Ali!

Those quieter moments make all the difference. Like the scene in Tommy Lee Jones' house, with that banal (and racist) talk about cars, while Devane and Jones look at the people around them like their aliens or something. God, I love this movie.

And to be shallow for a second, anyone else think Jones' wife is kinda cute? Just me?
post #159 of 169
What I noticed on a recent viewing is Devane's choice during a love scene with Linda Haynes - he just lies on his back, not kissing her. When she moves in to kiss him, he kind of bares his teeth at her in response. Not a kiss, not a smile, just weird and not human.
post #160 of 169
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And to be shallow for a second, anyone else think Jones' wife is kinda cute? Just me?
REALLY cute, I thought... especially when she meets him at the airport.
post #161 of 169
Is this available yet as an MOD? I still can't find it anywhere and Christmas is a-comin'.
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post #163 of 169

I would so get this if I didn't think that somewhere in the near future an HD version of this would be coming out. Or not. I guess if MGM has the DVD rights, then they have the blu-ray rights too. Dammit. These decisions are tearing me apart, Lisa!

post #164 of 169

UK Blu-Ray release confirmed for 5/30/11. Most likely to be Region 2 Locked, as its released by Optimum, and I hear that's there MO. Also of note coming from them on Blu in the next six months is Roeg's "Don't Look Now" and Peckinpah's "Cross of Iron".

post #165 of 169

Shout Factory is doing the blu.


Edited by Phil - 12/28/12 at 3:57pm
post #166 of 169

Enjoyed this a lot while I was watching it (on the Optimum UK Blu), but the more I thought about it afterwards, the more problems I had with it.

 

The film sometimes seems to endorse the scumbag's impression of Devane when they're pushing his hand down the garbage chute: "That is one macho motherfucker." Except he isn't. He's immensely traumatized by being tortured over a period of years, and conditioned to absorb the pain. Early on the film does such a great job of conveying Devane's disconnection with his feelings and the world around him that I thought the film was pointing out being macho had nothing to do with it. This man was damaged.

 

But then, after the final shootout, Devane helps Lee Jones to his feet, and says something to the effect of "Let's go home, buddy." OK, so now they can go home, but before, they couldn't? So killing off the gang of scumbags has lifted the trauma from them and allowed them to return to normal society? That wasn't definitely the case, but that was one reading I took away from it - the final line and final shot seem to lack the ambiguity you might expect (e.g, Bickle catching his reflection in the rear view mirror at the end of "Taxi Driver"). Lee Jones already said goodbye to his family - but now he's cool to return?

 

I didn't get any racist sense from it at all, so don't know where Schrader's coming from with that.

 

Fantastic work from all the actors though, and I loved the choreography of the action - recognizably the work of the same director as "Out For Justice."

post #167 of 169

I don't know, even with Devane saying that, the carnage on display belies his point. I think his revenge is cathartic, but only to a point. I feel like there's a bit of irony to that "let's go home" line.

 

Great movie, by the way. Can't wait to buy the Blu.

post #168 of 169
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I don't know, even with Devane saying that, the carnage on display belies his point. I think his revenge is cathartic, but only to a point. I feel like there's a bit of irony to that "let's go home" line.

 

 

I guess so, I dunno - any ambiguity (with their expressions, the tone of his statement, and that song kicking in over the credits) is very, very subtle if it's there. I got the sense that everything had been put to rest after a bit of righteous payback, which is fair enough - I love me some fools getting wasted, vigilante-style - but feels like a betrayal of the first half of the film.

 

The film it reminded me of, oddly, was 8mm. That has a similar build-up towards what feels like an ending that can only go one way, but then steps back and provides a much more conventional ending than was previously suggested.

 

(I know the ending of 8mm was changed from something tonally consistent - the main character committing suicide by driving his car straight at a brick wall - to what we got, naff redemption. As much as I enjoyed it, I thought Rolling Thunder was somewhat guilty of the same thing).

 

Fantastic title also, though.

post #169 of 169

Phil ambles in and makes some amiably terse point about the flick in 5...4...3...

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