2008 NCAA Football Season - Page 3

Neither UCLA or Tennessee had any business winning that game...but I think UCLA's defensive performance earned them the win.

Sure there were some lucky breaks, but god damnit if I haven't been this excited about UCLA football in a LOOOONG time.

Neuheisel couldn't have been more perfect for this job.

WOW. What a game...


Now objectively, as a football fan and not a Bruin, jesus that was bad football. UCLA needs second half kevin craft, and they need Logan Paulson healthy, although Moya played admirably in his place. More importantly, Khalil Bell better be healthy if the Bruins want to continue making a name for themselves.

I don't know if you guys in the rest of the country know about the Chance-like brilliance of Texas Tech's coach Mike Leach or not. He's awesome. Evidence:

From a friend via IM: More can be found on this board (TONS of quotes here, but I'll just copy the Peppy story): http://www.texastechfans.com/forums/...showtopic=5603
Follow the forum link, there's much more comedy gold there.

So the moral of that story is Leach gets peed on often by other college coaches?

No, it's you can only piss on those you're bigger than.

Not true, I've pissed all over Friedgen many o' times.

Correction noted. Taller then maybe?

Tennesse has never played well on the West Coast and I was rooting for UCLA the whole way. Conference affiliation doesn't mean shit to me when it comes to UTK.

Also, Arian Foster's mother went off on the UT Rival's site and posted something admonishing the fan's and claiming the boosters were trying to give her son 100 $ handshakes. Epic.


As for my belief in UK's team last year? You're damn right I think they'd challenge for the Big 10 title last season. We get one or two plays going a different way and we're rematched with LSU in Atlanta. This season? Not so much.

The Big 10 wants to stop all this talk? It's very simple. Go out there and take it. The rest of the country is really tired of hearing about the Big 10. The SEC, The Big 12, and The Pac-10 are where it's at right now. These things are cyclic in nature and can/will change but until they do you're going to keep hearing about the weaknesses of the Big 10 compared to other BCS conferences.

Oh I get it, you're a moron.

If the ACC wants to make any noise this season Miami has to beat Florida. What the Gators have in offensive talent the 'Canes have in speed. Each team scored over 50 points in their opener, so hopefully it will be a good game. Miami has the history on their side with the Gators not beating them in 20 some-odd years, but it's Tebow. We'll see. I'm holding out hope.

Go 'Canes.

As a Florida State fan and ACC fan I have to say...GO GATORs! Fuck Miami. They have THE most despicable fans. I hate their fans, their players, their coaches (although Shannon seems classy...damn you Randy, do something evil!), their school, their administration, their mascot, their students and their colors. They can all rot in hell. I don't care if all ACC teams went 6-6 and Miami was our only saving grace for a BCS game. Die die die!

Whew, sorry about that...

First thing, where the fuck are you hearing all this Big Ten bias from? National media, outside of being infatuated with the SEC, has been dogging the Big Ten for the last few years. In that time there's always been a caveat with the few contending teams. "Top three teams in the league are good, but the rest of them..." Or, "Can the Big Ten champ really contend, coming out of that league?" Are you really that delusional that you think that the pub the SEC gets pales in comparison to the Big Ten? If it's because you look on the schedule and see Big Ten games littering ESPN and ABC, that has to do with something called contractual obligation.

Second, no one is arguing the point that the Big Ten is as good as the SEC. On the whole, up and down, it's pretty clear they're not (although, ahem, not for nothing, head to head bowl games are fairly even). What's being argued is how retarded you are for the stance you're taking. You, the Kentucky fan. The team who's barely .500 over its lifetime and has won two conference championships. The team who's played in all of twelve bowl games.

What bugs me isn't that you're loyal to your team or your conference, but the way you're barking like a tiny little chihuahua who was blessed with the good fortune to be adopted by a family who owns a bunch of pit bulls.

Seriously, where the fuck is Guttenberg when you need him? We need someone around here who knows what they're doing.

Yeah, I was just remarking the other day about how I haven't heard anyone call Urban Meyer a douche for a while.

The sanctimony of Big 10 football fans is fast approaching that of ACC basketball fans.


The tradition or history of the University of Kentucky football program has no bearing on the fact that they were good enough to challenge for the title in a weak Big 10 last season. That's not to say they would have won but the opportunity was there. Just like it was in the SEC, which they fell short of obviously with a slate of brutal games in a short, short period.

Secondly, when you're contstantly told how good the top teams in the Big 10 are and then watch them be overmatched in every facet of the game you kind of get tired of hearing about the Big 10. I'll agree with you on the point that marketing plays a huge part but that doesn't excuse the results.

I'm proud to be a Kentucky fan. We're not Ohio State and never will be. I won't sit here and argue that every year we could line up with the Buckeyes in the Shoe and whip your asses for 4Qrts up and down the field. Nor will I say conference affiliation automatically assigns us the ability to be better than we are against anyone else in the BCS.


And I'll continue to throw a little good natured smack your and anyone else's way because such is football and anybody who has played the game or been a hardcore fan of a college team knows it's part of the game.

Yes, god-forbid someone point out your ridiculous statements.

You said they would go to OSU and have a great shot at beating them, which is based on a massive overestimate of Kentucky's ability.

When? As Banks pointed out, the media has crushed the Big Ten the past few years. ESPN Radio's top hosts discussed how the Big Ten is maybe the 4th best conference. I don't think CBS or Gary Danielson has mentioned the quality of the Big Ten in years. If any mention a non-SEC team having superior ability, I suggest you avoid any mainstream sports coverage.

Oh its not like the Big Ten hasn't matched up well with the SEC during the BCS era. Yes, OSU hasn't had much luck, but if you check the records, The Big Ten has done well against the SEC.

"[w]hip our asses?" Last time I checked Banks and I went to Michigan, not Ohio State. Unlike like you, we aren't dumb fans who cannot respect our rivals. Of course, you've proven that you just spout off your insanity regardless of the facts.

If this was good natured smack talk, we wouldn't care. What you are spewing is just retarded.

Michigan

Oh I'm sorry. I change my entire point of view now.

Just another example of how you really have no clue what you are talking about.

I'm usually don't go off on people, but you come in here with acting like a Grade-A overconfident douchebag and then act stunned when people call you on it.

Sorry, I'm still laughing about the "we know how to respect our rivals" line.

I am also eagerly awaiting you to toss out the the "Superior Academics" line next.

You've obviously got the Big 10 Talking Points down pat at this point and I really don't want to be disappointed.


Sorry if I confused you for Buckeyes though.

Perfect example of your douchebaggery. Of course, you are the idiot who'd cut-off his nose to spite their face by cheering Tennessee's loss.

Yes, logic and reason are pillars of this "Big Ten Talking Points" you reference.

If you were Ohio State's bitch as long as we've been UTK's you'd understand. But you're Michigan so you don't know how that feels and this current bump, where Tressell turned Lloyd Carr into Bizarro John Cooper will be but a painful memory. Tressell's a good ball coach but I don't think he's got the innovative offensive mind that Rich has. You couple that with the Michigan name, it's outstanding facilities and tradition, and in 3/4 years you'll be feared again not just in the Big 10 but nationally.

But yeah that Michigan Ohio State rivarly is ultra classy. Everybody goes out for punch and kool-aid after the game and you all spend the off season praising each other in a positive, healthy matter.

You're not above the fray and don't act like you are. Don't be an ACC basketball fan.


Edit for the Edit: This is college football. We're not going to see eye to eye and say shit like "agree to disagree" You're going to jock your team and conference and I'm going to do the same with mine. The only hope we can have is a. Try to keep the blind homerism to a minimum and b. Agree that the ACC is terrwuble and should have it's BCS status revoked. Don't worry you can say what you like to me about football. I'm not going to get offended.

It's a rivalry, with jokes and yes, a degree of dislike. But both sides know the other can beat them, which makes winning that much more important.

In the end, both Michigan and Ohio State fans (the intelligent ones, at least) realize that their national fate/reputation partially rests in the hands in the other. Accordingly, they can't wish 0-11 on the other.

Maybe someday you (and Kentucky fans like you) will get over your inferiority complex and engage in a true rivalry with Tennessee.

I've experienced the Michigan Ohio State rivalry first hand and I have to say it seemed just as bitter and partisan as most others. Maybe not to the levels of Alabama/Auburn (now those motherfuckers know how to hate) or Georiga/Georgia Tech but the undercurrent is there.


But you can't begin to understand how the University of Tennesse is the root of all evil in the universe so it's okay.

At least they traveled somewhere longer then a five hour drive from their campus, unlike every other SEC team.

So one or two plays makes a team lose only once instead of five times?

You're fucking delusional. Besides OSU and Michigan, who are pretty much always overrated, what teams in the Big Ten have been talked up as if they're a great team? Wisconsin? Hardly. Penn State? JoePa has been taking hate for years. MSU? John L. Smith really did a number there.

I just want to mention that I am a huge Ohio State fan and hate Michigan with the intensity of 1,000 suns yet I get along with Banks and Cassady because A) we claim the best rivalry in college sports and B) we like Big Ten football, regardless of how strong or weak it is at any given time.

I guess I never came out and told you that I fucking hate you, Dan.

Uh, well, I guess this is a little awkward. Not exactly anything new for me though. I have this problem where I think people like me, or at least tolerate me, but they really don't. When I was a kid it was rough not having any friends or anything but I should be used to it now.

I'm not. It still hurts every time it happens. ~big girly sobs~

I'm an Ohio State alum, and I cheer wholeheartedly for Michigan every other game of the season. I was one of the loudest cheering when they beat Florida last year.

But yes, during OSU/UM week I would exhume the corpse of Bo Schembechler just to defile it.

No problem. I respect all opinions that come out of Free Shoes University. By the way, when are they going to stop parading Bowden's corpse along the sidelines during games? It's just unseemly at this point.

As you should have. And as I did when OSU played LSU. I love my rivalries as much as the next guy, but whenever it's not a rivalry game or won't adversely affect Michigan, I'm always up and cheering for Big Ten wins and good conference games. Not to keep harping on Bancroft, but that's why I don't get cheering against Tennessee in that UCLA game, even if you bleed Kentucky blue. That was a terrible loss for the conference.

SEC teams simply don't have to travel that far to find quality opposition!

In the interest of full disclosure, I did cheer kinda for App State in that game.

It figures that would be your 666th post.

You speak truth. Although, as a poor Penn Stater, it takes every ounce of will I have to root for Ohio State in any game. Strangely, I don't have this problem when it comes to Michigan (who absolutely owns us).

This being CHUD and all I was thinking my fellow Chewers would appreciate the fact that FSU has a zombie as head coach.

In all seriousness you should see the battle in the fan base around Bowden. Its very interesting and eye opening. It really comes down to age. The "old folks" who remember when FSU was nothing more than a recent girls school that dabbled in football still treat Bowden like he's the greatest thing ever. They basically believe that "he got us here, we'd be nothing without him, he can stay as long as he wants!" That group includes the current President of the school as well.

The young-ins (including myself here even though I'm in my mid-30s) have more of a "what have you done for me lately" mindset. We are much more upset at the mediocrity and embarassments of the last 8 or so years and are demanding improvements and change. Signing Fisher as HCIW was a big step towards mollifying the angry alumni. Fisher basically has total control of the O and Mickey the D so Bobby is more of a figurehead than ever.

In the end it comes down to the one thing that matters...money. Only when some big name Boosters started withholding donations did the admin get Jeff (aka Fredo Bowden) fired. The Boosters paid his exit fees and promised not to reduce donations. Now, even with Fisher and Mickey running the shows if we don't see serious improvement by end of next year the old man is gone. He will retire by end of next year (if we do well) or be forced out (if we stink it up).

I guess it's just me, but as another Nittany Lions fan, I could never root for Michigan. I've never had a real problem with Ohio State since I live in Ohio now and grew up right on the border. Plus, I grew up loving Jim Tressel when he dominated 1-AA with Y-town State.

But, I hate fucking Michigan with the power of a thousand suns. Steal both of my favorite school's coaches.... Pshaw.


EDIT: Throw Mario Manningham in there too.

No, I'll readily admit that I'm the inverse of pretty much every Nittany Lion fan. Most can tolerate Ohio State, but despise Michigan. I was the same way until I went to law school and ended up with a best friend who was a dyed-in-the-wool Michigan fan. Conversely, one of the most obnoxious people I knew in law school was a crazed Ohio State fan. Funny how those things can color one's perception.

Big Kentucky basketball fan (born and raised in the Bluegrass), but wasn't a college football fan until I moved to Tuscaloosa. I thought that the Kentucky-Louisville basketball rivalry was a prime example of how much two teams can hate each other (especially once Tricky Ricky joined the Cardinals). Then I saw how the Tide feels about Auburn.

Shit.

I don't think heaven and hell hold this much hatred for each other. If Tuberville adds another fnger this year there may be murder at Bryant-Denny.

Also, (I may have said this on CHUD already), being a Kentucky basketball fan and Alabama footbal fan means I belong to the two craziest packs of sports nuts in college atheletics.

Edit to add: And, despite being from KY, I didn't even realize UK had a football team until they signed Tim Couch...

Oh, so that's why they always schedule games against the likes of Tennessee-Martin at home!

Wisconsin is ALWAYS called overrated by the media, which is funny because they are "overrated" because of the AP poll.

And UW is usually slapped with underachieving, slow, untalented, just not very good etc....pretty much right up until they go and punch an SEC team in the mouth in their bowl game (2-1 the last 3 seasons, beat a "got robbed of our NC shot!" Auburn, beat SEC runner-up Arky, and lost to SEC runner-up UT last year (by 4 points).

Sure, the Big Ten is in a down cycle right now; but even one of their crap also-ran teams appears to have no problem hangin' with the upper echelon of the SEC. The gap isn't quite as massive as people would have you think.

Tide fans aren't crazy so much as they are drunk. All the time.

FSU named their starting QB for the Western Carolina game, and surprisingly, it ain't Drew Weatherford. Christian Ponder will get the start. This should be interesting. I was of the opinion that they should have let him start the rest of the season after he took over in the Va. Tech game.

Dumb question, but is Weatherford really still at FSU? He must be a token guy on Stewart Mandel's "Been There Forever" teams, where it feels like the guy's been there for ten years.

Believe me, I felt the same about Rix. Even my wife, who has zero interest in football of any kind, at one point said when we attended a game, "Chris Rix? He's STILL here?" I think a guy from one of the FSU newsletters had a good comment regarding Ponder being part of the "new era" at FSU by stating that this is the new coaching staff that are making the decisions to play the kids that are the best at their positions, and not necessarily the most experienced or most senior.

Oh, and get this gem from the NCAA--they tried to pull the two years of eligibility on one of FSU's newest WRs, who is a JUCO transfer, by saying he wasn't eligible anymore because he's 21 and played one year in an amateur developmental league, and one year on a flag football team. Are you fucking kidding me? They already overturned the flag football ruling and are now fighting the other one as well. Although if he's as good as advertised, he'll probably go to the NFL after this season anyway. The NCAA--what a fantastic governing body.

Great game by Vandy last night. I would love to tell you all I was using the tickets I had but I spent Wed. night in the Emergency room hooked up to an IV and all of yesterday in bed thinking I was going to die. Ugg...worst feeling in the world?

*spoilers*

having to alternate between shitting and barfing.


I'm thinking Banks shit in my Cheerio's.

Another one of those guys I noticed last week: OSU's Brian Robiskie. Jesus, he's been there forever.

It wasn't necessarily my own personal feces.

It's just sour grapes Banks. I'm still upset you stole Cory Zirble from us.

Brandon Logan? Not so much. If he's anything like the Logan brother we did get.

Please don't start a "guys who played 4-ever" conversation. We'll be here for days. George Wilson from Arkansas is one that sticks out in my mind.

Robiskie is a senior this year but he isn't a 5th year senior or anything.

Rusty LaRue FTW.

Did anyone tell the Buckeyes their game has started?