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post #1 of 65
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post #2 of 65
I'd heard about this story -- including the weeping -- but never gave it much thought. I figured it was some 21-year-old who loved the books since he was ten.

But this?
post #3 of 65
Jesus, if you ever needed an example of a loser with no life. There you have it.
post #4 of 65
Whatever gets him out of the middle school library.
post #5 of 65
"Expelliarmus Pedophilio!"
post #6 of 65
Hoy many hits does his website get?

Because we can all laugh at the dude, but if he gets the book published, he'd make a killing.
post #7 of 65
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Originally Posted by Alan "Nordling" Cerny View Post
"Expelliarmus Pedophilio!"
Winner.
post #8 of 65
Who said having someone's dreams crushed is not entertainment.
post #9 of 65
It must be weird to be J.K. Rowling and have to respond to stuff like this.
post #10 of 65
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His face lit up when an attorney for RDR books informed him that Rowling had complained that the Lexicon had given the wrong etymology for the door-opening charm "Alohomora."

Vander Ark had speculated that the word was a combination of the Hawaiian word "aloha" and the Latin word "mora." Rowling explained that the word actually came from a West African dialect.

"Really!" Vander Ark said, his eyes alight. "Sorry. That's very exciting stuff for someone like me."
.....Really?
post #11 of 65
I really don't see how this fellow ever thought publishing the book wasn't going to get him in hot water. Rowling has an established reputation of staunchly defending her intellectual property. More power to her.
post #12 of 65
This is fantastic.

Lucas is accused of destroying the spirits of his fans through inferior product, Rowling says fuck the indirect route and destroys her fans to their faces!

She rocks.

EDIT: This has to show up on South Park soon.
post #13 of 65
God. Does "lame" even cover this?
post #14 of 65
I think I'll just imagine that she made up the "West African dialect" thing to dispirit the guy.
post #15 of 65
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Originally Posted by Jakespeare View Post
This is fantastic.

Lucas is accused of destroying the spirits of his fans through inferior product, Rowling says fuck the indirect route and destroys her fans to their faces!

She rocks.

EDIT: This has to show up on South Park soon.
In fairness, the guy's trying to make money from selling a book made up mostly from her work. I'd kick him until he bled my royalty fees.
post #16 of 65
What I can't figure out is why this guy continues fighting to publish this book. (Or is it the publisher pushing him?) If the works of J.K. Rowling really mean that much to him, you'd think he'd kindly back down once she asked him to do so and announced her intention to write her own Potter universe encyclopedia. Ignoring her wishes strikes me as the motivations of a sad, greedy bastard, not of a devoted Potter fan.
post #17 of 65
If he's smart he'll roll this whole experience into a book deal.
"The Harry Potter Fan Inside Me"
post #18 of 65
You would think the fact that the author of the books he admires and loves so much tells him, "No. Don't do this because I want to do one myself," is enough to stop him from doing it.
post #19 of 65
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Originally Posted by zak chase View Post
What I can't figure out is why this guy continues fighting to publish this book. (Or is it the publisher pushing him?) If the works of J.K. Rowling really mean that much to him, you'd think he'd kindly back down once she asked him to do so and announced her intention to write her own Potter universe encyclopedia. Ignoring her wishes strikes me as the motivations of a sad, greedy bastard, not of a devoted Potter fan.
Damn it! 2 minutes too late.
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Originally Posted by BobClark View Post
If he's smart he'll roll this whole experience into a book deal.
"The Harry Potter Fan Inside Me"
I can already see the sequel, in light of the pedophilia remarks around here: "Me Inside the Harry Potter Fan".
post #21 of 65
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Originally Posted by Alan "Nordling" Cerny View Post
"Expelliarmus Pedophilio!"
Waiting outside the courthouse...

post #22 of 65
Yeah, I hope Rowling stomps him out of existence in this trial and shuts down other people trying to do the same. The last thing we need is a flood of fucking.. internet fan-fic geeks thinking if this guy can get work published than surely they deserve to be published too. Especially considering it's just making easy money off of someone else's intellectual property/hard work.

It would be a different story if they had the writer/creator/right holder's blessing, but in a situation like this? Fuck off.
post #23 of 65
All this talk of pedophilia reminds me of that great Onion video.

J.K. Rowling Hints at Harry Potter Date Rape.
post #24 of 65
I'm curious as to what kind of fanfics this book was set to include -- are we talking boring 'Harry really hates Malfoy!' stories, or epic tales of Hermione practicing her fellatio technique?
post #25 of 65
It's at least gotta have an orgy with all the big characters. At some point, Draco and Harry will DP Ginny and Hermione will feel the Longstick of Longbottom.

And Dumbledore and Snape get freaky in the afterlife.
post #26 of 65
Hey That's A Spoiler! Heh.
post #27 of 65
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Originally Posted by The Dark Shape View Post
I'm curious as to what kind of fanfics this book was set to include -- are we talking boring 'Harry really hates Malfoy!' stories, or epic tales of Hermione practicing her fellatio technique?
If it's the latter, sign me the fuck up!
post #28 of 65
I'm more interested in the legal ramifications of the final decision. What will this mean to all other "Non authorized" books out there based on others work. This type of book practically has it's own section at Barnes and Noble.
post #29 of 65
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Originally Posted by C.Swicegood View Post
I'm more interested in the legal ramifications of the final decision. What will this mean to all other "Non authorized" books out there based on others work. This type of book practically has it's own section at Barnes and Noble.
Yeah, like I said in the article, me too. The x factor here is how much Vander Ark quotes the POTTER books, though, and none of us have that answer.
post #30 of 65
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Originally Posted by C.Swicegood View Post
This type of book practically has it's own section at Barnes and Noble.
I hope it ends in better copyright laws or at least causes a good review. Because I really want to see that Chuck Norris book go away.
post #31 of 65
A copyright is only valuable if the owner defends it. It's not an automatic shield of protection. So anyone could write a book based on someone else's intellectual property and even get it published. It's up to the copyright owner to challenge the new work. I doubt we'll see that book store section go away any time soon, but we might see more authors choose to defend IP in court.
post #32 of 65
There's nothing wrong with, say, a book of original critical essays on a particular film, TV show or series of novels, as long as the writer(s) keep exact material from the property they're discussing (i.e. direct quotations pulled from the source) to a minimum and attribute it accordingly.

But what this guy's trying to sell is essentially just a list of characters, locations, spells, etc., with descriptions pulled from the books. That's a totally different animal, lacks any sort of original work by the author, and probably shouldn't be allowed under copyright law. Hopefully, the court sees it the same way.
post #33 of 65
My favorite part of the story is that the guy evidently wrote a clause into his book contract stating that the publisher had to pay any legal fees in the event of a lawsuit -- he knew this was coming down.
post #34 of 65
I suppose this trial justifies his life's work by making it "important".
post #35 of 65
Does Azkaban have a copyright infringement wing?
post #36 of 65
I was disappointed to find out that this article wasn't autobiographical.
post #37 of 65
Since you mentioned it in the article. Why isn´t there some court-footage? Not allowed in the U.K.? I guess the guy could sell this for ten times more than this encyclopedia thing.
post #38 of 65
I saw Yahoo video of this guy leaving the courtroom. 50 years old and he has a Harry Potter haircut and Harry Potter glasses. JK must have been really freaked out facing him in the courtroom.
post #39 of 65
There he is, with the female Snape ...



So this is his normal look?



Wow
post #40 of 65
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Originally Posted by Jan Travolta View Post
Since you mentioned it in the article. Why isn´t there some court-footage? Not allowed in the U.K.? I guess the guy could sell this for ten times more than this encyclopedia thing.
This trial is taking place in NY.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/15/ny...15rowling.html

Rowlins almost cried on the stand too;
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“It has really decimated the demands of my creative work for the last month,” she testified, at least once stoically holding back tears as she talked about the Potter books as if they were her children.
“You lose the threads, you worry if you’ll ever be able to pick them up again,” she said.
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She complained that the entries consisted of words like “Death” or “Voldemort” arranged alphabetically, followed by what she considered bare-bones definitions.


For instance, she said, the Ogre entry simply said, “Ron and Hermione think they see an ogre at Three Broomsticks.” A superior entry, Ms. Rowling testified, would have pointed out that “An ogre in European folklore was a flesh-eating giant.”


The entry under Remus Lupin, she said, missed the opportunity to comment on the etymology of the name as a “double allusion” to the character’s being a werewolf, since in Roman mythology Remus was raised by wolves, and Lupin derived from lupine.


She also objected to what she called the book’s “facetious asides,” like a comment about whether Hagrid could fit into a booth at McDonald’s.
“I think it’s dire,” she said. “I think it’s atrocious.”


The lead defense lawyer, David Hammer, was not impressed with her literary critique of the work.


“Have you ever read a dictionary, Miss Rowling?” Mr. Hammer demanded. Alphabetical order, he continued, “is what the Encyclopedia Britannica uses, isn’t that true?”


To which Ms. Rowling retorted: “What are you accessing in these A-to-Z’s? Aren’t you being suckered out of your hard-earned cash?”
“You feel it’s your responsibility to prevent people from paying their hard-earned cash for things you don’t like?” Mr. Hammer asked.
“Absolutely not,” Ms. Rowling replied. “This is theft. This is wholesale theft.”


It was the ultimate irony, Mr. Rapoport’s lawyer said, that the same Web site that Ms. Rowling was now denigrating was one that she had admitted using herself a time or two to check facts.


Ms. Rowling conceded that she had given a “fan-site award” to Mr. Vander Ark’s Web site in 2004, but she said she had given the award only “as a kind of A for effort.”


When she gave the award, she wrote on her own Web site: “I have been known to sneak into an Internet cafe while out writing and check a fact rather than go into a bookshop and buy a copy of Harry Potter (which is embarrassing).”


But she said she had consulted the Web site only because “I wanted to do a nice thing for the award. Do I now regret that? Yes, bitterly.”
Everyone except Ms. Rowling seemed to be competing for the wittiest Harry Potter references.


When her lawyer, Dale Cendali, spoke Lord Voldemort’s name — known to everyone who has ever read a Potter book as “he who must not be named” — she quickly said, “Forgive me for speaking the name.”
Oh God ...
post #41 of 65
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Originally Posted by Jan Travolta View Post
Not allowed in the U.K.?
Bingo.
Not that the trial's actually in the UK, mind you.
post #42 of 65
It has long failed to surprise me that fans are shocked and upset that authors and other creators won't let them make money off of copyrighted intellectual property.

I'm reminded of a recent case where some doof asked permission from 20th Century Fox to show a musical episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer at the cinema where he worked, and it was granted. It was to be a one-time showing, but this doof assumed it would be alright take the show on the road. So after multiple sold-out showing in many states across the land, various people involved with the series asked "where's our cut of that money, huh?" and next thing you know 20th Century Fox hits the guy with a cease-and-desist letter. The response from fannish quarters, including the guy who started the whole mess was a lot of whining about how unfair and mean the company was being. Give some fans an inch and some idiot will steal a mile, ruin it for everybody and the whiny fans will blame the copyright holders.

Really, as little love as I have for the whole Potter franchise, a little toad like this needs to be stomped on. Even if the only reason he failed to realize the difference between "approved fan website" and "book to be sold for money" was because he's a dimwit manchild.

PS It's not like the shelves of bookstores need to be weighed down with yet another nonfiction "guide" to someone else's SF/F franchise. But I guess that's my bias showing through (unlike the rest of this post).
post #43 of 65
I agree with the opinion in the article by Wu (former clerk to Justice Breyer):

"J.K. Rowling's Dark Mark - Why she should lose her copyright lawsuit against the Harry Potter Lexicon."
http://www.slate.com/id/2181776/

This is not fanfict, and there is precedent already in place protecting this type of work. I'm not sure why people here would be pro-Rowling in this case, a ruling favoring her in this case would place restrictions on things like wikipedia, and be detrimental for society.

Plus, she's super rich, her argument that this is a threat to her future work is laughable.
post #44 of 65
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Originally Posted by BHWW View Post
I'm reminded of a recent case where some doof asked permission from 20th Century Fox to show a musical episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer at the cinema where he worked, and it was granted. It was to be a one-time showing, but this doof assumed it would be alright take the show on the road. So after multiple sold-out showing in many states across the land, various people involved with the series asked "where's our cut of that money, huh?" and next thing you know 20th Century Fox hits the guy with a cease-and-desist letter.
The 'doof' is Clinton McClung, someone I'll vouch for personally and in a business capacity. He secured licensing for the show through Criterion, the company that controls Fox's back catalogue. He provided details of what he was doing to Criterion, specifically that the show was running in movie theatres. SAG learned that admission was being charged and billed Fox, which hit Criterion, who claimed they didn't know that the show was booked theatrically. Fox explicitly pulled all theatrical licensing for their shows and Clinton complied immediately. And he never spoke out against Fox, saying "please don’t use this as an excuse to lash out at Fox."

There is zero legal similarity to this case.
post #45 of 65
So Dev, I take it we can definately class this guy as a 'fanboy' then?
post #46 of 65
He has exceedingly good hair for a 50-year-old man.
post #47 of 65
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
I agree with the opinion in the article by Wu (former clerk to Justice Breyer):

"J.K. Rowling's Dark Mark - Why she should lose her copyright lawsuit against the Harry Potter Lexicon."
http://www.slate.com/id/2181776/

This is not fanfict, and there is precedent already in place protecting this type of work. I'm not sure why people here would be pro-Rowling in this case, a ruling favoring her in this case would place restrictions on things like wikipedia, and be detrimental for society.

Plus, she's super rich, her argument that this is a threat to her future work is laughable.

Exaclty what I was thinking - I was confused by the whole fanfic angle to the arcticle its clearly a reference guide he attempting to publish not the further adventures of Harry and Co.

What strikes me most about this case is that JK Rowling seems more upset that it s a crappy refrence guide more than anything else (see her comments in court.)
post #48 of 65
Today on my way to work I was behind some 40 year old guy driving a Lexus with a license plate that read VLDMORT. I pray his name is Vlad Mortensen or something but it kind of scared me. Some guy makes a hundred grand a year and on the weekends probably dresses up like the Dark Lord. Insane.
post #49 of 65
I wonder if Rowlings is getting a piece of those "Republicans for Voldemort" t-shirts.
post #50 of 65
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Originally Posted by Ken Savage View Post
What strikes me most about this case is that JK Rowling seems more upset that it s a crappy refrence guide more than anything else (see her comments in court.)
I really think her lawyers told her to argue this point, which is irrelevant, it doesn't matter what the quality of the work is it is still not copyright infringement.
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