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Muslims proclaim everyone else is wrong.

post #1 of 27
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Today is the turn of the Brits.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7359258.stm

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Muslim scientists and clerics have called for the adoption of Mecca time to replace GMT, arguing that the Saudi city is the true centre of the Earth.

Mecca is the direction all Muslims face when they perform their daily prayers.

The call was issued at a conference held in the Gulf state of Qatar under the title: Mecca, the Centre of the Earth, Theory and Practice.

One geologist argued that unlike other longitudes, Mecca's was in perfect alignment to magnetic north.

He said the English had imposed GMT on the rest of the world by force when Britain was a big colonial power, and it was about time that changed.
Opinions? As far as religions go, Islam really does love the spotlight.
post #2 of 27
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Mecca, the Centre of the Earth, Theory and Practice
Awesome.
post #3 of 27
Actually, I'm the center of the earth.
post #4 of 27
Britain is the center of spelling it centre.
post #5 of 27
That's nothing, Panama is known as the "Center of the world, heart of the universe".

You really can't beat "heart of the universe", sorry guys.
post #6 of 27
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Mecca is the direction all Muslims face when they perform their daily prayers.
Maybe if the Earth was flat!
Hahahaha silly Muslims!
post #7 of 27
I can't argue the whole "Britain forced it on everyone" thing, but the idea of changing it certainly seems like a pain in the ass. Did anyone tell them that the us already has it's own religious ideals, such as "Daylight Savings Time"?
post #8 of 27
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Muslim scientists and clerics have called for the adoption of Mecca time
my, my, my, my prayers hit me, so hard
makes me say, oh allah
thank you, for blessing me
with humility and modesty

Stop: Mecca time!
post #9 of 27
What happens if you're exactly equidistant from Mecca on the Earth? Which direction do you face then, huh?
post #10 of 27
The Greenwich Meridian is just fine where it is. But this makes more sense than the push to teach creationism in science class. At least you could formulate a cultural argument for moving the prime meridian, even if it wouldn't be very good. There is no argument for teaching myths over facts.
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Originally Posted by Seabass Inna Bun View Post
There is no argument for teaching myths over facts.
Oh, I can think of at least one! Two simple words: Jesus. Dinosaur.



Fuck. Yes.
post #12 of 27
Art class is fine.

But not that. Jesus looks like a midget with a mission.
post #13 of 27
As an atheist, this is really going to fuck up my schedule. Which time zone should I not believe in?
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post #15 of 27
Religious figures acting like douchebags. Big woop.
post #16 of 27
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Originally Posted by Seabass Inna Bun View Post
The Greenwich Meridian is just fine where it is. But this makes more sense than the push to teach creationism in science class. At least you could formulate a cultural argument for moving the prime meridian, even if it wouldn't be very good. There is no argument for teaching myths over facts.
This also isn't nearly as obnoxious as hearing Muslims advocate censorship of free speech in a country like the Netherlands (I think?) because somebody drew Allah in a cartoon. I'm respectful of religious people and all that - as much as I can be, anyway - but that's the type of stuff that needs to be kept to their own backwards theocratic societies. Keep that shit out of secular Europe, yo. And every other continent with secular governments, for that matter.
post #17 of 27
I love the colors on that coloring book page. Crayola's never come close to anything as awesome as Flesh of Christ.
post #18 of 27
So what? He-Man is Master of the Universe. He'll kick all their asses, then decide just what time it is.
post #19 of 27
The Muslims stole the whole "Got it all wrong" thing from Chud.
post #20 of 27
Damn, I know this story is so batshit ridiculous that it doesn't really deserve a serious response buuuuuuuuut....

Greenwich Mean Time. Everyone in the world, irrespective of their cultural background, religious beliefs, etc. can visit Greenwich if they wish to do so.
They can even go and visit the Royal Observatory there (the site that is the basis for measuring GMT, longitude 0.).
However, non-Muslims are not allowed into Mecca. If 'Mecca Time' was adopted (big 'if', I know....what a fucking joke) it would be adopted purely for a small percentage of the world's population and would be, in essence, a hugely exclusive, theocratic scientific endeavour closed to outsiders.

The British set up a pretty decent method for measuring world time and had the global infrastructure to adopt it throughout their empire.
Arabs, on the contrary, didn't manage anything like that but a group of them have now decided to assert some ludicrous, pseudoscientific idea from the position of being innocent victims of British colonialism.
post #21 of 27
This is as good a place as any to put this in.

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Major survey challenges Western perceptions of Islam

Feb 27, 2008

WASHINGTON (AFP) — A huge survey of the world's Muslims released Tuesday challenges Western notions that equate Islam with radicalism and violence.

The survey, conducted by the Gallup polling agency over six years and three continents, seeks to dispel the belief held by some in the West that Islam itself is the driving force of radicalism.

It shows that the overwhelming majority of Muslims condemned the attacks against the United States on September 11, 2001 and other subsequent terrorist attacks, the authors of the study said in Washington.

"Samuel Harris said in the Washington Times (in 2004): 'It is time we admitted that we are not at war with terrorism. We are at war with Islam'," Dalia Mogahed, co-author of the book "Who Speaks for Islam" which grew out of the study, told a news conference here.

"The argument Mr Harris makes is that religion in the primary driver" of radicalism and violence, she said.

"Religion is an important part of life for the overwhelming majority of Muslims, and if it were indeed the driver for radicalisation, this would be a serious issue."

But the study, which Gallup says surveyed a sample equivalent to 90 percent of the world's Muslims, showed that widespread religiosity "does not translate into widespread support for terrorism," said Mogahed, director of the Gallup Center for Muslim Studies.

About 93 percent of the world's 1.3 billion Muslims are moderates and only seven percent are politically radical, according to the poll, based on more than 50,000 interviews.

In majority Muslim countries, overwhelming majorities said religion was a very important part of their lives -- 99 percent in Indonesia, 98 percent in Egypt, 95 percent in Pakistan.

But only seven percent of the billion Muslims surveyed -- the radicals -- condoned the attacks on the United States in 2001, the poll showed.

Moderate Muslims interviewed for the poll condemned the 9/11 attacks on New York and Washington because innocent lives were lost and civilians killed.

"Some actually cited religious justifications for why they were against 9/11, going as far as to quote from the Koran -- for example, the verse that says taking one innocent life is like killing all humanity," she said.

Meanwhile, radical Muslims gave political, not religious, reasons for condoning the attacks, the poll showed.

The survey shows radicals to be neither more religious than their moderate counterparts, nor products of abject poverty or refugee camps.

"The radicals are better educated, have better jobs, and are more hopeful with regard to the future than mainstream Muslims," John Esposito, who co-authored "Who Speaks for Islam", said.

"Ironically, they believe in democracy even more than many of the mainstream moderates do, but they're more cynical about whether they'll ever get it," said Esposito, a professor of Islamic studies at Georgetown University in Washington.

Gallup launched the study following 9/11, after which US President George W. Bush asked in a speech, which is quoted in the book: "Why do they hate us?"

"They hate... a democratically elected government," Bush offered as a reason.

"They hate our freedoms -- our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other."

But the poll, which gives ordinary Muslims a voice in the global debate that they have been drawn into by 9/11, showed that most Muslims -- including radicals -- admire the West for its democracy, freedoms and technological prowess.

What they do not want is to have Western ways forced on them, it said.

"Muslims want self-determination, but not an American-imposed and -defined democracy. They don't want secularism or theocracy. What the majority wants is democracy with religious values," said Esposito.

The poll has given voice to Islam's silent majority, said Mogahed.

"A billion Muslims should be the ones that we look to, to understand what they believe, rather than a vocal minority," she told AFP.

Muslims in 40 countries in Africa, Asia, Europe and the Middle East were interviewed for the survey, which is part of Gallup's World Poll that aims to interview 95 percent of the world's population.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5...SFpYngMOjrmDbQ
post #22 of 27
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It's also worth pointing out, that technically the english language isn't very efficient either. But we wouldn't really want to all end up speaking french now, would we?
post #23 of 27
"Bonjour!"

"Damned gibberish!!!"
post #24 of 27
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Originally Posted by Alan "Nordling" Cerny View Post
What happens if you're exactly equidistant from Mecca on the Earth? Which direction do you face then, huh?
Fuck me running. Now I'm never gonna get to sleep.
post #25 of 27
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This is as good a place as any to put this in.
That, right there, is my religion.
post #26 of 27
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post
"Bonjour!"

"Damned gibberish!!!"
Burn him at the stake!
post #27 of 27
A Christian in a washroom told me last night that I'd have to answer to God at Heaven's gates about my pissing. Unless he thought I was masturbating. I only wish I had a powerful enough imagination to do that at a Coup show. "I've got my beer, good music, a woman I'm speaking to, now all I gotta do is jack it and it's a good night..." (not actual coup lyrics)
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