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post #51 of 77
Some people seem to consider Phantasm a slasher, of all things.

I do quite like New Nightmare, myself. it falls apart at the end, but there's at least some imagination in getting there.

Does Candyman count as a slasher film? It's a pity Bernard Rose seems to have done so little other horror worth mentioning besides Paperhouse.
post #52 of 77
I don't think CANDYMAN counts, but what a film!

Patrick could be right regarding 'the chase' in that if it follows a certain number of genre conventions it's considered slasher regardless of any supernatural aspects.
post #53 of 77
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Honestly I don't consider the NOES series a slasher series, but I'm not too concerned about it. Part 3 is actually my favorite of the entire series.
post #54 of 77
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Patrick could be right regarding 'the chase' in that if it follows a certain number of genre conventions it's considered slasher regardless of any supernatural aspects.
I don't know. How many monster movies wind up with someone being chased or menaced by a monster in the final reel? That doesn't mean I would call it a slasher film.
post #55 of 77
Sure, but the genre conventions thing is only way I can think of to determine if it's slasher or not.

Eh I'm not that fussed anyway, I doubt I'm gonna have to spend any time explaining the differences to anyone.

Does anyone find anything of merit in the post-SCREAM teen slasher boom? I KNOW..., URBAN LEGEND, CHERRY FALLS, VALENTINE etc.?

I know that's a fairly turgid list of movies there, but that whole era did lead to both H20 and BRIDE OF CHUCKY, which I enjoy immensely.
post #56 of 77
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Does anyone find anything of merit in the post-SCREAM teen slasher boom? I KNOW..., URBAN LEGEND, CHERRY FALLS, VALENTINE etc.?
Not remotely. That was a brutal time to be a horror fan.
post #57 of 77
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Does anyone find anything of merit in the post-SCREAM teen slasher boom? I KNOW..., URBAN LEGEND, CHERRY FALLS, VALENTINE etc.?
Perfect Blue and The Ugly did come out around then, but the former was uninfluenced by Scream and few people have even heard of the latter.
post #58 of 77
If the NIGHTMARE films qualify as slasher then CANDYMAN does. WISHMASTER is a tougher call. Toughest of all would be the FINAL DESTINATION films. They play out like a slasher film, but with no actual slasher.

My personal qualifications for a slasher are a killer, undead or otherwise, who favors edged weapons and who stalks and kills his or her prey, generally one by one.
post #59 of 77
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Perhaps I should've named the thread Stalk 'n Slash instead. I see the Final Destination films (well 1 and 2) as just as clever a disection of the genre as the original Scream.

I remember not enjoying The Ugly much at all, and remember it being more of a Silence of the Lambs influenced film then anything, but it has been about 10 years since I saw it. I remember black instead of red blood.
post #60 of 77
The Final Destination films are not slasher movies. They are a derivation of the Omen films.
post #61 of 77
I think the pacing of a slasher film is centered around murder setpieces, which is why both Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street qualify. Under that definition, I suppose Final Destination does as well. I don't remember Wishmaster being centered on the kills, it was more centered on plot. The film never really stopped for that build up of tension and violent release, the deaths sorta just happened. If I'm remembering it correctly.
post #62 of 77
Thanks to this thread, I just watched STAGE FRIGHT. Man, that Irving Wallace is a slasher with real aplomb! If I had my druthers he'd be rated right up there with Michael Myers and Freddy Krueger. That cumbersome owl head was perhaps not the wisest choice of mask, but I'll be damned if he didn't pull it off with style and grace.
post #63 of 77
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I don't remember Wishmaster being centered on the kills, it was more centered on plot. The film never really stopped for that build up of tension and violent release, the deaths sorta just happened. If I'm remembering it correctly.
Wishmaster is a monster movie, I think. At any rate it always reminded me of WARLOCK. Which is not a slasher movie.
post #64 of 77
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Thanks to this thread, I just watched STAGE FRIGHT. Man, that Irving Wallace is a slasher with real aplomb! If I had my druthers he'd be rated right up there with Michael Myers and Freddy Krueger. That cumbersome owl head was perhaps not the wisest choice of mask, but I'll be damned if he didn't pull it off with style and grace.
I'm glad you liked it. It's one of those movies that I can pretty much watch any time. Have you begun plowing through the rest of Soavi's filmography yet?
post #65 of 77
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I'm glad you liked it. It's one of those movies that I can pretty much watch any time. Have you begun plowing through the rest of Soavi's filmography yet?
CEMETERY MAN is a favorite of mine but I haven't seen much else by him. What would you recommend?
post #66 of 77
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I remember not enjoying The Ugly much at all, and remember it being more of a Silence of the Lambs influenced film then anything, but it has been about 10 years since I saw it. I remember black instead of red blood.
It is kind of ripping off Silence, but it's competently done, has the odd spot of nice imagery, and isn't trying to be funny or ironic.
post #67 of 77
Well Zone Horror's latest treat was Hatchetman.

Fairly diabolical, but I guess I've seen worse.
post #68 of 77
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Lions Gate's re-release of My Bloody Valentine (just in time for the remake, imagine that) is cause for celebration, all the MPAA deletions have been reinstated. Usually MPAA slasher cuts are a pretty big disappointment, consisting of mere seconds, but this is nearly 10 minutes of surprisingly graphic stuff for 1981.
post #69 of 77
Indeed. Some of those kills are fantastic. If we can get uncut 'Friday...' films then even better.
post #70 of 77
About two weeks ago I bought a passable, bordering on terrible, 1989 slasher film called Rush Week featuring a large cast of actors that don't work anymore, Kathleen Kinmont's crazyfuckingawesome body, and for reasons known only to God, Gregg Allman.

There's a scene, reminiscent of Terror Train, where a frat boy plays a delightful prank on a "friend" of his, a young prostitute, that involves tricking her into fucking an actual corpse. He and his friends seem to think that her traumatized wails and speedy exit from the premises are fucking hilarious as they high-five each other and all that. Directly after this, she's walking down a lonely street, crying her eyes out, and wouldn't you know it, she gets decapitated by the killer. Great way to end the night. I swear the 80's are just about the most bent decade ever.
post #71 of 77
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Just 'cos I want attention I thought I'd post a link to my CHUDblog in here:
My Favorite Slasher Movies: Absurd
post #72 of 77
Is Absurd a slasher film? It’s more in that indefinable genre that includes Faceless (and all Dr Orloff clones), Nightmares In A Damaged Brain and Don’t Go In The House: if you can have police procedurals, then I guess you can have serial killer procedurals?

Pity it’s not available anywhere though. In a world where we’re able to get Jess Franco’s Jack the Ripper quite freely, we should be able to get George Eastman lumbering about with murderous intent in every form.
post #73 of 77
I think it might be impossible to define a "slasher" film ... Jaws 2 is a slasher film in every way that matters. But it's not one that people immediately think about when talking about the subgenre.
post #74 of 77

I saw New Year's Evil a few months ago and thought it was pretty unique. It has a strange sense of humor, and I'm not sure if the killer's odd behavior was supposed be unsettling or humorous. Plus it has bitchin' theme song.

 

post #75 of 77

Nice thread bump. I can't believe that BARELY last fall I finally got that Bava set that has Bay Of Blood. It was certainly worth the $15.99 I paid on Amazon for it. Really gory, and moody.

 

Hatchet II was also a pretty good throwback. Liked it better than the first one.

post #76 of 77

Jag Mundhra's Hack-O-Lantern (seriously) A 1988 slasher film. A whole other realm of "holy shit, I can't believe this exists" bad. It's not on DVD but it is astonishing. Basically, a weird creepy grandpa character inducts his grandson into a cult and when the kid becomes a young man, he's supposed to complete his initiation by...I don't know...killing a lot of people I guess. He does this while wearing a dimestore Halloween Satan getup. This film has four things going for it. 1. It's Jag Mundhra, so it's lecherous. A good bit of skin here. 2. The actor playing the granda character. He's what happens when you cross Harvey Fierstein with a psycho, redneck rapist from Deliverance. He's fun to watch, but likely not in the way the filmmakers intended. 3. A dream sequence that is literally a music video. I'm too lazy to look up whether the band was legit or not, but the gist of it is that the lead character, the kid who becomes a Satanic killer, has a dream where this horrendously shitty metal band jams out an entire song that I assume is called "(You're) The Devil's Son" since it's the chorus. Laser beam eyes, shredding, a black woman in a loincloth who I guess is supposed to represent Khali(!), I don't know...it's hilarious. 4. This I'm slightly ambivalent about, but it really shows how bad the film is. At one point, during a Halloween party, a guy in a crowd of people tells a completely unfunny joke. He continues this for four to five fucking minutes. They actually have some horrendously shitty comedian, who has nothing to do with the plot, essentially do a set in the middle of a horror film. It's stunning and awful. My theory? The band and the comic have the same manager, and he's one of the producers. Seek it out.

 

Also, to anyone who is curious about seeing Final Exam (1981), just know that the only thing that film has going for it outside of that early 80's ambiance that I love so dearly, is perhaps one of the single most unconvincing heterosexual crushes in film history. Joel S. Rice, the actor who plays the true crime obsessed nerd, Radish, pines for our final girl, boringly essayed by Cecile Bagdadi, but Rice is so obviously gay, like napalm gay, that it is mystifying how the filmmakers thought they could sell this. Personally, I would rather have seen a version of the film where Radish pined for a final boy, it would have been way more interesting. By the way, the trailer has the line "the night he came back" or somesuch shit, clearly a riff on Halloween's tagline. What's funny is that the killer, who was probably a grip or something, is not only boring and nondescript, but there's no story to him. He randomly shows up and begins killing people. Radish opines about the randomness of crime, and there's a vaguely clever number scheme going on, and all that, but it's really in the service of making the least complex, easiest to shoot product, and it's a snooze.

 

 

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Edited by JacknifeJohnny - 2/22/11 at 4:00pm
post #77 of 77

Is the Slumber Party Massacre trilogy worth a look? I notice they just released a trilogy collection for about 18 bucks.

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