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4/24/08 at 11:33am
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Monsoon Moon - 'Cowboy Dan' as MM's worst? You gotta be kidding. Of course, I'm biased because it's one of one of my favorites off that album and spent forever learning the main guitar part. If anything, pick on a song on one of their more recent releases. If I had to choose a least favorite off LCW it'd be 'Jesus Christ was an Only Child'. But their worst would not be found on that album.
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"Looking for Astronauts" - The National: Looking for astronauts? Really? That's what we're all doing?
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A-fucking-men. What was most frustrating about that song is that it was released on an album containing two of their best songs of all time ("Abel" and "All the Wine"), and that piece of nothing was chosen as the first single. I thought I was witnessing the early death of one of my favorite bands. Thankfully, they released Boxer. I still don't listen to Alligator very much, as "All the Wine' is on the Cherry Tree EP. Not a conscious decision--it's like "Astronauts" contaminated the rest of the album or something.
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| My picks: Replacements, "Lay It Down Clown" I know part of the 'Mats appeal was the whole brilliance-bordering-on-incompetence thing, but this one skews too far to the latter |
| Stars, "Genova Heights" Just something about the chorus of that song makes me twist up inside, and not in a good way |
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NIN - "The Collector" and "Deep" suck but my worst is "Big Man With A Gun". I'm sure there's supposed to be some irony/satire in the lyric "shoot shoot shoot shoot shoot/I'm gonna cum all over you", but having Tommy Lee play on the song negates that.
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I don't get the hate for "Astronauts." The title phrase may sound kind of inspid, but the rest of the song more than makes up for it, both lyrically and musically. To say nothing of the rest of the album, which is a quantum leap beyond most of the stuff on Cherry Tree.
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The Beatles - Act Naturally
Arcade Fire - 7 Kettles Beck - Get Real Paid Bruce Springsteen - Paradise De La Soul - Shopping Bags (She Got It From You) Dinosaur Jr. - Poledo The Doors - The WASP (Texas Radio and the Big Beat) The Hives - Inspection Wise 1999 Interpol - Take You On A Cruise Modest Mouse - Woodgrain The Moldy Peaches - D2 Boyfriend Nirvana - Farmer Francis Will Have Her Revenge on Seattle Radiohead - Sulk System of a Down - Radio Video Tom Waits - Metropolitan Glide The White Stripes - White Moon |
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The Beatles - Act Naturally
Nirvana - Farmer Francis Will Have Her Revenge on Seattle |
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Rush - "Dog Years" from Test for Echo, a real clinker lyrically and musically. Peart must've had an off day writing that one.
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Nope. I love the album, all 100%. You're basically saying 90% of it isn't good. How do you see that as agreeing?
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I will agree that Alligator is the next evolutionary step beyond Cherry Tree. I just wasn't sure I liked the trajectory. There were flashes of brilliance I could point to ("Abel," "Mr. November," already in love with "All the Wine"), but those seemed more an outgrowth of the familiar than part of the new. Like I said, that direction solidified itself with Boxer, which sold me on the "new" National.
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| As for "Looking For Astronauts," the fact that the clunkiest lyric in the song is not only the chorus but the title colors the listening beyond redemption. The chorus is supposed to be the release of tension that the everything leading up to it builds, and when he just repeats that line endlessly, it's a major dose of coitus interruptus. The fact that the rest of the song is so strong makes the impact of the chorus even worse. |
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What's funny is I have no idea what would be considered the chorus of the song, since all three main parts repeat. I would have probably gone with the "You know you have a permanent piece of my average-sized American heart" bit or the "Take all your reasons and take them away..." part as the chorus.
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I said no such thing. I was responding to the guy who did.
My point was, although it's a brilliant album it contains songs that are, on their own, less than great. Wild Honey Pie, for instance, is barely a song at all. If you require a figure, I'll wager that the tracks on that album, weighed individually, are 70 to 75 per cent great. |
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You said you agreed with the guy who said it was 90% weak! My point was that I don't have to que up songs when listening to it because when I listen to it I listen to the whole thing. Because I love ALL THE SONGS! That means individually and all together.
And Wild Honey Pie is awesome. Barely a song? I mean, yeah...it's weird, but so what? It's a fun one to slip into mix tapes sometimes because it's so offbeat. The Beatles were all about about levity in small doses and that song is a lot of fun. If every song were Blackbirds, While My Guitar Gently Weeps and Revolutions...it wouldn't even be a Beatles album. |
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I love the White Album-- the thing is, this here thread is about songs, not albums, and I think it's interesting to judge the individual tracks on their own merits.
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I'm more inclined to point a disapproving finger or two in the direction of "I Want You (She's So Heavy)," which is one of the very few Beatles songs to stick around far longer than it should.
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You, sir, are insane.
Also, I don't know how we've come this far discussing The Beatles' worst songs and we haven't even mentioned the Phil Spector Let It Be album, which is almost nothing but filler. Consider: I Dig a Pony Dig It I've Got a Feeling I Me Mine One After 909 The Long and Winding Road (not a good song in any version) For You Blue. I mean, no way is "Act Naturally" worse than "For You Blue." But, as I think about it, there are a surprising number of bad Beatles songs, most of them written by George before he got good. "The Inner Light" would be one of them. "Blue Jay Way," jesus christmas, there's another. But for all-time worst, I'd have to argue "Only a Northern Song." Brrrrggghhhh. |
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The White Album is my favorite Beatles record, so I'm biased. As far as quality, iI think it's absolutely stronger than Sgt. Pepper. Revolver and Abbey Road are probably "better" records but they're not nearly as strange and eclectic.
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth
You're thinking of 'Roll the Bones', off of the album of the same name. It's not my favorite song of theirs, but I don't mind it as much as some of their 'Power Windows/Hold Your Fire' stuff. RTB was actually a really solid album and found Rush at their funkiest.
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Madness.
Craziness. Power Windows and Hold Your Fire are fantastic and lightyears beyond Roll the Bones' thin, early 90's filler material (Face Up?). Not only is Power Windows Geddy's favortie Rush album (and possibly their best produced), but they were still progressive (albiet with a synth laden sound that many people find distasteful), but also contain some of Neil's best lyrics AND drumming. |
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Madness.
Craziness. Power Windows and Hold Your Fire are fantastic and lightyears beyond Roll the Bones' thin, early 90's filler material (Face Up?). Not only is Power Windows Geddy's favortie Rush album (and possibly their best produced), but they were still progressive (albiet with a synth laden sound that many people find distasteful), but also contain some of Neil's best lyrics AND drumming. |