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Well - on that note ... I got to get back to work on my web sites ...
Ladies and gentlemen, the Web Massa.
post #52 of 105
Ron Paul is batshit crazy and isn't really consistent in his views but I don't buy the idea that's he's racist. He's buddies with people like Dennis Kucinich and was the only guy in the entire GOP field that had the balls to publicly and repeatedly say that it wasn't right to judge Romney solely by his religious beliefs. I have a hard time believing a guy who hangs out with Kucinich and advocates tolerance of the beliefs of others is a racist.
post #53 of 105
Anyone who thinks non-property owners shouldn't vote needs to be beaten and then ejaculated upon.

That's not a joke. I really believe that.

Really.
post #54 of 105
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Originally Posted by SlantedFacts View Post

This country started going down the drain when NON property owners had gained the right to vote.
Cuchulain? Oh wait, no it's not you.

Anyways, Ron Paul seems to attract all sorts of weirdos, like the guy at my book store who is very right wing. He has anti-gay, pro-life, pro-creationist, anti-liberal, and anti-leftist stickers all over his yellow american-made Chevy. He recently added a sticker that said Ron Paul Revolution. This guy is constantly berating people who look different and act different like gay couples, dark-skinned individuals, and even the poor emos. The place where I live is very liberal, so this guy seems out of place.

On Ron Paul himself, it disturbs me how much he advocates a smaller government, in regards to deregulation. If he where to be elected and allow deregulation, then I would expect life as we know it to change drastically. Many of the octopus-like mega-conglomerates would likely expand and there would be nothing to stop them. This really is social darwinism at its worst. If Reagan and Bush expanded Corporate welfare and power, Ron Paul would hand this whole country over on a silver plate.
post #55 of 105
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain View Post
Ron Paul is batshit crazy and isn't really consistent in his views but I don't buy the idea that's he's racist. He's buddies with people like Dennis Kucinich and was the only guy in the entire GOP field that had the balls to publicly and repeatedly say that it wasn't right to judge Romney solely by his religious beliefs. I have a hard time believing a guy who hangs out with Kucinich and advocates tolerance of the beliefs of others is a racist.

First how is he batshit crazy? Most people here just keep repeating that which is exactly what the mainstream media did without anything to back it up. Also you're really mistaken about him not being consistent, HE IS the most consisent member in government. Watch videos of him 20 years ago, he literally says the same shit, if thats not consistency I dont know what is.

Also HE IS NOT A RACIST!
post #56 of 105
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Originally Posted by Alan "Nordling" Cerny View Post
Anyone who thinks non-property owners shouldn't vote needs to be beaten and then ejaculated upon.

That's not a joke. I really believe that.

Really.
Good ol' Nordling, always trying to find someone to skeet on.
post #57 of 105
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Originally Posted by Alan "Nordling" Cerny View Post
Anyone who thinks non-property owners shouldn't vote needs to be beaten and then ejaculated upon.

That's not a joke. I really believe that.

Really.
I believe you. If only because your from Texas, and we know you guys don't fuck around when it comes to beatings and ejaculations.

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Many of the octopus-like mega-conglomerates would likely expand and there would be nothing to stop them. This really is social darwinism at its worst. If Reagan and Bush expanded Corporate welfare and power, Ron Paul would hand this whole country over on a silver plate.
Yea, but I'd be too stoned to care since marijuana would be legal.
post #58 of 105
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Originally Posted by Alan "Nordling" Cerny View Post
Anyone who thinks non-property owners shouldn't vote needs to be beaten and then ejaculated upon.

That's not a joke. I really believe that.

Really.
I have the same feeling, and it is extended towards those who would deny the right to vote based on discrimination of race, color, or creed. Thankfully we have our voting rights. The guy at my bookstore who says muslims should not vote deserves his mouthful of Nordling man juice.
post #59 of 105
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Originally Posted by Jake View Post
This guy's a Republican hidden under a thin blanket of Libertarian bullshit.
Is there any kind of Libertarian that ISN'T utter horseshit?
post #60 of 105
I think DarthSidious can answer that.
post #61 of 105
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Originally Posted by InTheShadows View Post


Yea, but I'd be too stoned to care since marijuana would be legal.

By jove, you're right. Long live the great green God Chron.
post #62 of 105
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Originally Posted by El Thain View Post
I think DarthSidious can answer that.
Answer what?
post #63 of 105
I honestly feel legalizing marijuana would greatly benefit the government as it is right now (I am NOT saying thats a good thing, by the way), in more ways than just the tax revenue they would generate.

With that said, marijuana SHOULD NOT be legalized. I support my local dealer, and terrorists.

DarthSidious, I believe he was being rhetorical. We know what your answer would be.
post #64 of 105
Might as well get in this. Marijuana used to be legal cause the government knew they couldnt make it illegal so they just taxed the hell out of it. Then the 60's came along and you know. Anyways I think if someone wants to smoke weed in this "free country" they should be able to do it. We all know drinking is much more dangerous then smoking. Id rather deal with someone high on weed then drunk.
post #65 of 105
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Originally Posted by DarthSidious View Post
Might as well get in this. Marijuana used to be legal cause the government knew they couldnt make it illegal so they just taxed the hell out of it. Then the 60's came along and you know. Anyways I think if someone wants to smoke weed in this "free country" they should be able to do it. We all know drinking is much more dangerous then smoking. Id rather deal with someone high on weed then drunk.
Wait, you think it has only been actually illegal since the 1960s? The Marihuana Tax Act effectively criminalized the possession of cannabis back in 1937.
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Does anyone think that Witchesbrew has many handles on the boards?
post #67 of 105
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain View Post
Wait, you think it has only been actually illegal since the 1960s? The Marihuana Tax Act effectively criminalized the possession of cannabis back in 1937.
Actually, like all of our current drug laws, marijuana was effectively banned because of racism. During the 30's, our country was dealing with a huge wave of Mexican immigrants. Certain people with influence in govt. created an effective propaganda campaign that labeled Mexican's as the ones who were smoking most of the marijuana, and if they outlawed it, they would go away. Obviously, this didn't work....but thats why it was made illegal.
post #68 of 105
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Originally Posted by InTheShadows View Post
Actually, like all of our current drug laws, marijuana was effectively banned because of racism. During the 30's, our country was dealing with a huge wave of Mexican immigrants. Certain people with influence in govt. created an effective propaganda campaign that labeled Mexican's as the ones who were smoking most of the marijuana, and if they outlawed it, they would go away. Obviously, this didn't work....but thats why it was made illegal.
If there's a level that plan didn't utterly, completely fail on, I must be overlooking it.
post #69 of 105
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Originally Posted by Greg Clark View Post
Is there any kind of Libertarian that ISN'T utter horseshit?
Not that I can think of, now that you mention it.


Also: RON PAUL.
post #70 of 105
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Originally Posted by InTheShadows View Post
Actually, like all of our current drug laws, marijuana was effectively banned because of racism. During the 30's, our country was dealing with a huge wave of Mexican immigrants. Certain people with influence in govt. created an effective propaganda campaign that labeled Mexican's as the ones who were smoking most of the marijuana, and if they outlawed it, they would go away. Obviously, this didn't work....but thats why it was made illegal.
Actually the MTA was only partially the result of racism. The main culprits behind it were Harry Anslinger and William Randolph Hearst. In the 1930s, the environmental impact and low energy efficiency of producing things like cotton and paper were starting to get serious attention from the mainstream media. The Hearst conglomerate owned a large percentage of the textile and lumber industries and further maximized profits by producing the pulp for its newspapers in-house. With that kind of synergy, WRH didn't really want an alternative to paper and cotton getting a foothold in the industry. So, he basically bought Anslinger and financed a ton of propaganda tying Mexicans and the memory of the last decade's opium epidemic to marijuana's psychoactive properties. This ultimately resulted in public hysteria and the passage of the Marihuana Tax Stamp Act,

Weed is a pretty solid documentary covering this. (Edited for a typo)
post #71 of 105
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Originally Posted by El Thain View Post
Does anyone think that Witchesbrew has many handles on the boards?
I don't know.
But I'm pretty sure she has a handler in real life, though.
post #72 of 105
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Originally Posted by The LD View Post
Holy SHIT. We've got someone who's not just crazier than Isildur's Bangs, but like...SIGNIFICANTLY crazier. I'm just fucking thrilled at the very prospect.
That, Sir. Was awesome.
post #73 of 105
If someone knocked on my door offering to mow my lawn for $25, I'd laugh in their face. Maybe $10. Maybe. You cannot make a living off of lemonade stands, selling your belongings on E-bay, or going door-to-door offering to do menial chores for outrageous costs. That's kidstuff. I used to shovel snow for a fiver, something you can manage when your overhead is $0
post #74 of 105
I wish you would have posted that shit before this past weekend Seabass.

Little fucker.
post #75 of 105
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Originally Posted by James Kimbell View Post
That Milton Friedman quote is really good, actually.
I went to the wikipedia entry on Friedman. In light of the guy quoting him, this made me laugh:

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Friedman was awarded a competitive scholarship to Rutgers University in New Jersey, graduating with a Bachelor of Arts in 1932.[8] He specialized in Mathematics, and initially intended to become an actuary but found the exams cumbersome and quit.
He quit! Quit! BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

And what a godawful ugly car this new troll claims to drive.
post #76 of 105
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My one friend continues to not shut the fuck up about Paul. The kid is probably my best friend, and none of our friends, including myself, are able talk to him anymore. He just pisses everyone off with pointless politics talk.

How can I deal with shit like this:
"Tell me something you believe in Scott, what exactly does Obama or McCain have to offer you that makes you love them so much. If I, like all Paul supporters are ignorant, what makes the Obama or Clinton supporters so informed? Is it the fact that they hear socialized health care is soo wonderful and we should have it, because every indutrialized country has it? Well, you know why the health care is so expensive right now, because the government has to big a hand in it. HMO were basically forced on us by the government."

Or this:
"And your comment about us Paul supporters being ignorant because he doesn't have the support to be a serious contender. Oh, we know he isn't a serious contender, maybe if he got the media exposure the others do he would. You're missing the point about the Ron Paul Revolution. It isn't about this election. It's about ideas. We know he can't win this election, but his ideas can live on.

And on another note, its state legislators such as Obama who have created the current state of health care, by passing laws and regulations that give HMOs and big pharmaceutical companies power and, therefore, increase costs."

I don't even think either candidate is for socialized health care, that's just something I suggested we should start exploring. Agree with it or not, his arguments are hollow.

Oh, and thanks for the laffs, everyone. It's the only thing keeping me out of a supremely pissed off mood.
post #77 of 105
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Originally Posted by Scott View Post
My one friend continues to not shut the fuck up about Paul. The kid is probably my best friend, and none of our friends, including myself, are able talk to him anymore. He just pisses everyone off with pointless politics talk.
Friends don't let friends vote for Ron Paul.
post #78 of 105
I cannot stand fanatics on either side of the aisle. Far-right or far-left doesn't matter, they are both douchebags. The problem with Ron Paul supporters is that there is no middle ground. They're all fanatics. And the Internet...dear God, the Internet...it must be their breeding ground. Sure you may run into one or two in real life. But online they're everywhere! It doesn't matter if you're posting on CHUD, Engadget, ESPN, My Little Pony Fans, etc. They live, breathe and breed in messageboards. It would be interesting just for the societal aspect of it, if it wasn't so god damn annoying.
post #79 of 105
Paul got almost 21,000 votes in the primary yesterday, to McCain's 70K+. I thought Paul would do better.
post #80 of 105
This Paul shit continues? Jesus.
post #81 of 105
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Originally Posted by JudgeSmails View Post
And the Internet...dear God, the Internet...it must be their breeding ground. Sure you may run into one or two in real life. But online they're everywhere! It doesn't matter if you're posting on CHUD, Engadget, ESPN, My Little Pony Fans, etc. They live, breathe and breed in messageboards. It would be interesting just for the societal aspect of it, if it wasn't so god damn annoying.
Well, out in the real world, you don't see many flies by themselves. Plop down a turd, though, and they're everywhere.
post #82 of 105
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Originally Posted by gravedigger View Post
Paul got almost 21,000 votes in the primary yesterday, to McCain's 70K+. I thought Paul would do better.
Pretty damned good considering the media already declared him to be out of the race and McCain having the nomination right?
post #83 of 105
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Originally Posted by DarthSidious View Post
Pretty damned good considering the media already declared him to be out of the race and McCain having the nomination right?
Wait. The media declared McCain had the nomination?
post #84 of 105
I said it before and I'll say it again. Ron Paul is the Lyndon Laruche of the 21st century.
post #85 of 105
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Originally Posted by DarthSidious View Post
Pretty damned good considering the media already declared him to be out of the race and McCain having the nomination right?
Not really, considering the number of full-blown wackaloons we have crawling around this state.
post #86 of 105
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Originally Posted by DarthSidious View Post
Pretty damned good considering the media already declared him to be out of the race and McCain having the nomination right?
Seems like it until you realize the caucus was held on February 5th.
post #87 of 105
Thread Starter 
Him: I guess I can't convince you to read his book.
Me: No, because I don't have to read Mein Kamph to realize Hitler was an asshole.

Now he's telling me I'm an idiot for comparing Ron Paul to Hitler. I guess Paul didn't use any analogies in his book.
post #88 of 105
Ron Paul isn't as crazy Lyndon Laruche...nor are his groupies as hot.
post #89 of 105
The Paultards are going to walk out of the GOP convention and have a 'counter conventions" in Minneapolis/St Paul ..and Paul is sponsoring this move.
This will be the laugh riot of the summer.
post #90 of 105
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
The Paultards are going to walk out of the GOP convention and have a 'counter conventions" in Minneapolis/St Paul ..and Paul is sponsoring this move.
This will be the laugh riot of the summer.
Man oh man, I hope we get a live feed of this. This would be great. I just can't wait to see 4 hour discussions on how they all made so much money off gold and how the Korean war was a bad, bad idea. There will be so many tinfoil hats you'll be amazed!

Awesome.
post #91 of 105
CNN Breaking News! Ron Paul has official quit his presidential campaign.
post #92 of 105
I'm curious to see how many of these tools go from him to Bob Barr. I dare ya, I double dare ya.
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Thread Starter 
post #94 of 105
I'm sure this means DarthSidious's parents have finally sent someone down into the basement to put him on suicide watch.
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Searching for Ron Paul

Wondering what the Libertarian Party has been up to since Ron Paul bolted to run as a Republican?

Click HERE for the whole tragicomedy, but here are two highlights:

The eleven onstage look more like community- theater auditionees than presidential applicants. In the audience, there is a man in a Guy Fawkes mask; Starchild, a California masseur dressed as a pirate; and the Sumerian Libertarian, a white-mohawked older gentleman with saucer-size hoops in grotesquely distended earlobes and several bonelike objects piercing his septum

All and more of these groups are on proud display in Denver. Vendor booths trumpet Native American mysticism, the "inflation-proof Liberty Dollar," and, perhaps inevitably, Shotgun Willie's, a local strip club. One group is raffling off a motorcycle, with a disclaimer of opposition to helmet laws ("Those who ride should decide"). Another is showing The Matrix on mute, with custom subtitles. "Purity? You mean Rothbardianism?" says Keanu Reeves. Come to think of it, it's not too far from the film's original dialogue.
post #96 of 105
I am in total support of Bob Barr's campaign, not that I don't think the Libertarian concept of gutting the Department of Education and other social programs is utterly loony, but because it may cut into the republican voting bloc a la Nader and Gore.
post #97 of 105
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I am in total support of Bob Barr's campaign, not that I don't think the Libertarian concept of gutting the Department of Education and other social programs is utterly loony, but because it may cut into the republican voting bloc a la Nader and Gore.
And a quick QFT. I wish Ron Paul would have stuck it out too in order to syphon off the loons.
post #98 of 105
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Originally Posted by El Thain View Post
Does anyone think that Witchesbrew has many handles on the boards?
Just one.

Not worth my time to do all the proxy IP bullshit for that kind of behavior.

Just not that important to me. You don't have to have a "handle" to retain the grain, while tossing the chaff in the shit can.

post #99 of 105
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Originally Posted by Cylon Baby View Post
"Purity? You mean Rothbardianism?"
Huh?
post #100 of 105
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Originally Posted by C.Swicegood View Post
And a quick QFT. I wish Ron Paul would have stuck it out too in order to syphon off the loons.
You know what's so beautiful about Ron Paul supporters? They will write him in even if he's not on the ballot!
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