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From The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...ailarticlepg):

WITH GOOD cause, Maryland and a growing number of other states have set deadlines for Proctor & Gamble and other manufacturers of automatic dishwasher detergents to rid their products of phosphates. But the soap industry, backed by its insider lobbyists in Annapolis, succeeded recently in persuading Maryland lawmakers to pass legislation that would extend the state's deadline by six months. Gov. Martin O'Malley (D) should veto the bill.

If you live in this region, each time you sprinkle Proctor & Gamble's Cascade detergent into your automatic dishwasher's dispenser cup you are contributing to the slow death of the Chesapeake Bay. Cascade -- the most popular but by no means the only offending automatic dishwasher detergent -- contains phosphates, a cleaning ingredient that is the proximate cause of the bay's "dead zones" -- clouds of algae that choke off sunlight, oxygen and life.

Spurred by legislative action in Washington state, whose ban on detergent-borne phosphates goes into effect this summer, the industry has said that it will market detergents without the ingredient starting in July 2010. Maryland set its deadline six months earlier, a deadline that Mr. O'Malley signed into law last year. Now the industry says that it would be inconvenienced by the Maryland deadline and prefers its own so it can coordinate the phase-in of a new product nationwide. Tough luck.

In fact, this is no more than special pleading by one major manufacturer, Proctor & Gamble, which controls well over half the detergent market through Cascade. A number of smaller companies, notably Colgate-Palmolive, have managed to make and market phosphate-free detergents. Why should Proctor & Gamble get to set Maryland's environmental agenda based on its own ease and convenience?
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Why should Proctor & Gamble get to set Maryland's environmental agenda based on its own ease and convenience?
Because they contribute to the politicians who write those policies, and because it is in their bottom line's interest to do so, and because they can make more money fitting policies to their needs than they can adjusting to new policy. This is how large corporations behave all the time. Why do you act surprised?

I cannot wait to find out that the idea that phosphates are bad for seabass and other living things is proclaimed to be nothing but a vast conspiracy on the part of The Left.
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I'm not surprised. I cut 'n pasted the editorial (sorry if I didn't make that clear).

What I was surprised about is the fact that Cascade (which I use) is a major contributor to the Chesapeake's dead zones. As a guy who lives in the Chesapeake Bay watershed, I'm going to stop using the product.
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Agree, and the FDA and EPA and anyone else who rubberstamps this kind of flagrant abuse of the public trust should be sh*tcanned as well.

The sad thing is that no matter what lives are affected or lost to toxic corporate profit-making, no one will ever go to prison for it.
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I use Electrasol 3 in 1 tabs...am I a bad person?
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I use Electrasol 3 in 1 tabs...am I a bad person?
The only one they mentioned was Palmolive in the article as being safe, so I would assume yes.

I was unaware of this until this article, I use Cascade but I dispose of Compact florescent light bulbs in a safe and proper manner (they contain trace amounts of mercury so you have to bring them to an approved facility). So, you know... you take the good with the bad.
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So, you know... you take the good with the bad.
I hear ya, Snaieke. But switching to a different brand of dishwashing detergent is so incredibly easy and hassle-free that there's no reason not to.
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I use Electrasol 3 in 1 tabs...am I a bad person?
It's 8.7% phosphates vs. 7.7% in Cascade powder. So yes, you're a bad person by 1%.
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It's 8.7% phosphates vs. 7.7% in Cascade powder. So yes, you're a bad person by 1%.
Correction: You're a worse person by 1%.
post #10 of 12
Nine posts and nobody makes a Tommy Carcetti joke? Slipping!
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I hear ya, Snaieke. But switching to a different brand of dishwashing detergent is so incredibly easy and hassle-free that there's no reason not to.
Haha, yeah I hear you. I'm not saying I'm not switching but at least I was doing something good to compensate for the harm my ignorance to the cascade problem was causing.
post #12 of 12
After reading all this, I'm switching to Cascade. I don't live anywhere near the Chesapeake Bay.
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