Robocop 2

This was the one that featured the 12 year old gangster with that plastic machine gun right? Oh yeah, that and the striking cops.

Yeah, not as good as the original, but a lot of fun nonetheless.

I always refer to this film as the last gasp of stop-motion animation.

I remember the video game where you had to run around destroing Nuke as stated by large bottles with the letter "N" on it.

I haven't seen this since 1990 but I remember thinking it wasn't as bad as everyone made out. I think it was written by Frank Miller.

I remember that there were some jarring character shifts from part 1. Such as the old man - the Head of OCP - going from being a harmless old geeza in part 1 to the main bad guy with a penchant for wierd sex festivals in part 2.

Have you seen part 3, Molt ? Some say that despite it's lower budget and lack of Weller it's more fun than part 2.

Oh no, Robocop 3 is pretty damn terrible.

Having Dallas in place of Detroit is one thing. But Atlanta? Now that's just taking suspension of disbelief a bit too far.

A friend of mine in elementary plays the catcher in the scene with the baseball team.

'Robocop 2' isn't as bad as it's reputation makes it out to be, but it's still a pale shadow of the original. 'Robocop 3' almost achieves a 'Highlander 2: The Quickening' level of unwatchability.

Robocop 2 was good. Did enjoy it though not as much as Robocop itself. It's the only film that I have watched in reverse...

Robocop 3 however....... Please let's not go there. I've spend thousands on Alcohol just to try and remove that from my brain. Almost there.

Was worried though that if they did remake Robocop it would be awful, however they are welcome to remake robocop 3 whenever they like. As long as it doesn't suck Sadam Hussain's necrotastic balls like the first version.

I unashamedly love R2. I don't think it compares when held against the first one, but it's fun and gloriously violent. It tends to get dismissed as inferior because the satire is so broad, and that's true to some extent, but I think R2 has a different kind of humor which works well within the framework. Where the first film was a relatively straight-faced black comedy, the sequel is a manic, nihilistic Looney Tunes short come to life. The final showdown, the kid gangster, the baseball team robbers, the brain in the jar, Robo's reprogramming, it's all so over-the-top, but in a completely different way than, say, Kinney's death in the first film was.

It's even reflected in the music. I don't think Rosenman's score holds a candle to Poledouris, but what Basil wrote was nothing if not earnest. That's why it worked so well. Rosenman infamously considered the film beneath his talent, and there's a sarcasm and self-awareness in his score that Basil never would've gotten into. But in context it works beautifully. A female choir screaming "ROBO-COOOOOOOOP!! ROBO-COOOOOOOOP!" is the perfect amount of salt for the entree.

I'm not saying I wouldn't rather have heard a Poledouris score for this, just that Rosenman's score is one ingredient that goes into a weird alchemy that shouldn't work but somehow does.

A lot of the goods have been mentioned, but this absolutely kills me every single time.

This movie is basically to Robocop what Gremlins 2 is to Gremlins. Everyone expected a progression of ideas out of them. What we got was a progression of their evil black comic hearts.

That's so dead on.

I love Robocop 2 as much as the first one. Its so mean-spirited. My favorite character is the mayor. FUCK YOU YUH SENILE OL' BASTARD!!! FUCK YOU! Don't ever seek out "Frank Miller's Robocop". It was a comic miniseries based on Frank Miller's original script for Robocop 2 (I guess it was changed for the movie). Its a real piece of shit. And I like in the beginning on the news they're like

Newswoman: "We have received the following transmission from Kain!"

Kain: "People want peace... and they will have it!"

that's it?

I prefer to think of it as the last full-bodied breath of stop-animation. The warehouse shootout is an incredible achievement.

Somewhere I have notes for recutting this movie into something I could bear re-watching. This was right after it came out on VHS, and way before fan-edits became commonplace. It would have been about an hour long.

Oh yeah, this movie featured the robbing little league baseball team. That truly was something out of Frank's imagination.

I love the beginning where it keeps on panning down the street and everyone is robbing everybody, and then it ends with some hooker stomping on a guy's face, and the guy yells out "AWWWW YOU PUT MY EYE OUT YA BITCHES!!!!!"

I seem to remember Siskel & Ebert working up a great froth over the fact that one of the main villians is a 12 year-old.

Not to mention the live-surgery execution of the informant cop that Cain forces the little kid to watch. That child actor plays the moment great, too. From horror to clinical detachment in a matter of seconds.

You really felt for Officer Duffy, because before he gets killed, he has to suffer through Robocop shoving his face into an arcade game's screen.

Well wasn't Officer Duffy a Nuke fiend, a loser and corrupt as hell? Why would we feel for him?

Well he's a gentle giant really

Much love for Robocop 2 here. I saw it back in '90 at the age of 6, and I loved it, although Kain killing his girlfriend, and the Duffy surgery freaked me out. Don't remember being freaked out by the Kain surgery where they remove his brain. Strange. It's what a sequel is supposed to be, loud, full of bloody action, and Frank Miller in a cameo as a drug chemist.

I love the hell out of Robocop 2.The only part that leaves me kinda cold is the 12 year old gangster kid.The rest is pretty great.

Especially whenever he curses.

"You look a little out of breath, bitch!"

"Can't shoot a kid can you, fucker?"

There'd never be something like this again in this day and age.

RoboCop 2 is tons of fun. If I remember correctly, there's a Peter Weller quote out there stating that they filmed lots of stuff to make RoboCop look more human, but those scenes were mysteriously gone when he saw the final product. That's too bad.

Still, the finale of this one rocks. It might have the best robot fight ever.

Plus, any movie with Tom Noonan is cool, in my book.

It's slow in a lot of places and I really hated the stop-motion finale, but it's definitely watchable. The trailer for Robocop 3 gave me enough reason to avoid that one in the trilogy set I have. Robot ninjas and a flying Robocop doesn't look like a good time.

"BEHAAAAAAAAAAVE YOURSELVES!" Best part of the movie.

Otherwise, a horrible piece of shit.

See, that's the odd thing. You'd think anything with robot ninjas would be awesome. But the awesomeness of ninjas and therefore robot ninjas, or the more provincial ninja robots, some did not cross over to the film as a whole.

It's a conundrum.

Agreed. It's infinitely more fun than anything in Transformers.

Technically they're not robots. They're cyborgs.

And you call yourselves Robocop fans.

I've just been owned on the Internet. Oh well, it was bound to happen sooner or later.

Anyone read the graphic novel?



I've been meaning to track it down for ages. I read the Wiki entry, it's quite different from the movie. In the comic, Kain is called Kong.

I love Robocop 2. The fact that so many hate it, makes me love it all the more.

Oh yes, Robocop 3 was bad. I only remember it because they killed off Nancy Allen in that one. Also there was that Yakuza Ninja Android.

Did anyone here watch the Robocop Live Action TV Series in the early 90's? There also a miniseries called Robocop: Prime Directives that was slightly better than 3.

Excellent comparison. I'd say it's like Predator 2 and Beverly Hills Cop II. They're clearly inferior rehash sequels but they have enough fun and deliver on the goods where it counts to the point where fan boys like myself don't care.

Likewise, Robocop 3 is a lot like Beverly Hills Cop 3. Watered-down content. Popular characters either killed off, recasted, or just outright written out with little explanation while the remaining cast phones it in for a quick buck.

Some footage from the Robocop 2 workprint:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKqUeEFB4UA

No effects have been added, and you can hear Weller walking around in the obviously plastic suit.

This is a much more apt comparison. Gremlins 2 I think actually eclipses the original in many ways, whereas while Robocop 2 is entertaining in it's own right, I would never pick it over the original.

Best bit in the film: When Murphy is being reprogrammed, one of the new directives is 'Avoid Orion Meetings'.

I don't think he's been mentioned yet, but Willard E. Pugh is hilarious as the high-strung Mayor Kuzak: ""Fuck you, you old senile bastard!!! This is BULLSHIT!!! BULLSHIT!!!"

I just realized that Dr. Faxx looks like my former therapist.

I echo the love for the film. It's one of those sequels that treads water, sure, but doesn't make the franchise go tits up. That's what the third film does.

And then there's MagnaVolt. "And it won't even run down your battery."

I thought it was pretty shit-tay. From what I've heard the Robocop 2 we got was a real hurried patched together job to replace of Frank Miller's original studio-abandoned script which had Robocop blasted to bits in the first reel and then re-assembled and re-awakened fifty years even later in the future to fight crime in Generic Frank Miller Cyberpunk-Dystopia With Lots of Staticky Video Monitors All Over the Place. Oh boy, SOUND LIKE WE MISSED OUT HUH.

Robocop is one of my favorite films. But yeah, the sequel is lacking in many ways. I'm kind of surprised to see all the love for the mayor's performance, since I thought he was pretty shitty(and over the top in a bad way). The stop-motion is great in the first Kain attack, but seemed sloppy(or rushed) in the later sequences. I also love the shit out of the shot where Kain first "arrives on the scene"(truck driving over camera, robot feet stepping out). ED-209 got the shaft, but it's still a funny moment.
It's just a shame Kershner couldn't find the balance between comic book/ultra-violence/and satire that Verhoeven can do in his sleep.

"Go fuck a refrigerator, peckerneck!"

Robocop 3 is bad bad bad, don't get me wrong, but on a recent viewing I was very surprised to find it had some redeeming qualities. Not many, mind you.