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post #101 of 1231
6/18/08 at 2:59pm
Solaris has moments that are like a horror film...

No one is debating that Gary Cole is awesome, I just think he might have been available a little farther down the line, as opposed to Johnny Depp or someone like that.
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post #102 of 1231
6/18/08 at 3:02pm
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Originally Posted by Arjen Rudd View Post
Solaris has moments that are like a horror film...

No one is debating that Gary Cole is awesome, I just think he might have been available a little farther down the line, as opposed to Johnny Depp or someone like that.
Or Matt Damon, Brad Pitt, " ", " ", " ", etc. But it's an interesting direction to take. I don't agree with the pick, but if his strategy pans out he might have one of the more solid, versatile and cohesive (if low-key) groups.
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post #103 of 1231
6/18/08 at 3:09pm
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Originally Posted by RathBandu View Post
I would also argue Mushnik's point that Clooney's worked in every genre. Syriana and From Dusk Till Dawn aren't really horror movies.
Batman and Robin isn't enough of a horror for you?
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post #104 of 1231
6/18/08 at 3:11pm
Too easy.
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post #105 of 1231
6/18/08 at 3:15pm
Starving Dog truly deserves his message board name. COME ON!
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post #106 of 1231
6/18/08 at 3:17pm
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Originally Posted by Sacrilicious Supersucker View Post
I think I like the Cole pick best, too. It's bold and I think it's more in the spirit of this whole thing.
Not if you could get him in round 2 or 3. It's not just who you draft but when you do it and with what combinations. I had Cole on my list but not in the first. At best I would have taken Cole in the 3rd round if I really wanted him and didn't want to take a chance.

Unless some says they would have taken Cole in the 2nd it might be a bad pick in the sense you could have gotten him later. Depends on what his draft looks like the rest of the way.

All this talk of The Client makes me miss J.T. Walsh. He would have been a great pick.
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post #107 of 1231
6/18/08 at 3:19pm
Judd, I liked what you had to say about Clive Owen, and I think he's a really solid choice. It's definately a testament to his je ne sais quoi that he's one of the most memorable things about The Bourne Identity, a movie brimming with awesome.
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post #108 of 1231
6/18/08 at 3:20pm
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Originally Posted by Owner of the Road to Perdition kite View Post
Didn't think Hanks would go so high.
I love the choice of Cole as well (he's the toast of the draft thus far!). Sure, he would have been around for later rounds, but why not form a fake group of actors around him? Guy's pretty versatile - exactly the kind of actor that you need to ground the fake movies that are about to go into production.
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post #109 of 1231
6/18/08 at 3:21pm
It's also about the end game, as others have said, if Ed picks actors on or around Cole's level of recognition/talent, he might not have the above-the-title names but he may have a pretty solid lineup and come out with one of the best of the draft. Which is kind of how I'm playing, although much of this is going to be wung day-to-day. I like it because Hocken seems to be coming from the same place I am, and that makes me excited. For, y'know the contest, not the earth.
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post #110 of 1231
6/18/08 at 3:45pm
Hey Tati, I'm going to rape you later for grabbing Ejiofor. Just thought you should know.

It's cool that a lot of big names are getting picked up but part of me was hoping that some folks would be forming a repertory company of lesser-known actors. That way, I won't feel so lonesome in my picks. That's why I'm just raping Tati and not murdering him.
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post #111 of 1231
6/18/08 at 3:47pm
One of the things that interests me about this is having to make business decisions. A stable of really strong character actors is appealing, but this being film and not theater, I think I want a choice star or two (or three). I like the idea of having a reliable lead in the center of my company, not to star in every film, but to allow me some flexability. And for my money, quality leads are much harder to come by than character types. As others have said, Gary Cole is a very desirable pick, but the rest of Hocken's draft will determine the wisdom of grabbing him so early.

Tati, by the way, just raised the bar in a fairly big way. I want to get at least a couple picks or more under my belt before I really start to flesh anything out, but with Ejiofer and the summaries, I would say Tati brought his A game today, Celtics style.
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post #112 of 1231
6/18/08 at 3:48pm
Ejiofor was going to be my first round pick. That's why I'm hating Tati with the fury of a thousand suns right now.
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post #113 of 1231
6/18/08 at 3:48pm
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Originally Posted by Matt Goldberg View Post
Hey Tati, I'm going to rape you later for grabbing Ejiofor. Just thought you should know.

It's cool that a lot of big names are getting picked up but part of me was hoping that some folks would be forming a repertory company of lesser-known actors. That way, I won't feel so lonesome in my picks. That's why I'm just raping Tati and not murdering him.
You're just using this as the excuse to finally take Tati for your own eh? And I assume the romantic fist attatchment will be in use?
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post #114 of 1231
6/18/08 at 3:49pm
Dickson's summaries are pretty good, too.
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post #115 of 1231
6/18/08 at 3:50pm
You guys are making me blush. I'm just having fun with this. And seriously, Ejiofer was hands down my best pick. The rest is going to be pale in comparison. Son don't raise your expectations.
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post #116 of 1231
6/18/08 at 3:52pm
All I know is that with the first dozen or so draft choices going in quick succession, this wait is killing me. Still a long time before my proposed draft time.

Ugh.

Edited because I fail at time-zone math
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post #117 of 1231
6/18/08 at 3:57pm
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Originally Posted by RathBandu View Post
Dickson's summaries are pretty good, too.
Yes. They all sound interesting and original. I gotta raise my game here. I've only got a couple fake movie ideas worth a damn.
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post #118 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:03pm
Any minute now...
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post #119 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:07pm
I had Clooney and Blanchett pegged as my leads in Aqueduct of Tears (he would have been Edificium, she would have been Boudica). Oh how that plan fell apart.
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post #120 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:14pm
I have a lot of work to do tonight. Once I see who I end up with as my first pick, things will become more clear. Plus I'll be able to think better at home without all the distractions. I know I'm really going to take the "fitting together" part seriously. That's why I like the Cole pick so much. The versatility and that I can see him playing off of anyone. There are some big name, excellent actors that I will probably pass up just because I don't picture them fitting into certain genres or with certain co-stars.
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post #121 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:24pm
I really wanted Clooney for the directing aspect too. I mean, the guy has charisma to burn, can do drama, comedy, action, you name it, AND he directs. There isn't anyone else I would have thought of taking #1, not even RDJ.
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post #122 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:26pm
I'm glad I'm not the only one who had delusions of drafting Clooney first.
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post #123 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:26pm
Well, now that Starving Dog has posted, you can go.
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post #124 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:26pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
I really wanted Clooney for the directing aspect too. I mean, the guy has charisma to burn, can do drama, comedy, action, you name it, AND he directs. There isn't anyone else I would have thought of taking #1, not even RDJ.
Does it matter that he can direct though? I like Clooney, but I think Clive Owen, Matt Damon and a few others are just as suitable for the direction I'm taking.
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post #125 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:26pm
And thus Starving Dog picked up the Master of Scientology. Go Eric!
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post #126 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:27pm
I can't give character descriptions for the films until I finish drafting. I have to see the whole cast before I can put people in roles. I could make Pitt the 3rd lead in one of the movies while having my eye on someone else for the male lead, but if I don't get them, I might be somewhat screwed.
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post #127 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:28pm
Cordo, nice pick. He was on my list for a while until I decided he just didn't jive with the rest of my group, guess that's to my benefit since I would have lost him 2 spots before me.
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post #128 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:28pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
I really wanted Clooney for the directing aspect too. I mean, the guy has charisma to burn, can do drama, comedy, action, you name it, AND he directs. There isn't anyone else I would have thought of taking #1, not even RDJ.
He's extremely versatile, possibly moreso than most others in the business. It was that versatility, way, way more than his star status that made him my #1.
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post #129 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:29pm
Oh, it's time.

Go home, or go wit MEEEEEEE
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post #130 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:31pm
Three surprises in a row. And though I probably couldn't have taken him, it warms my heart to see Bill Murray go in Round One.

EDIT: Trejo's got something probably awesome up his sleeve.
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post #131 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:32pm
Oh sweet Jebus, I got my first pick.
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post #132 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:32pm
Goddammit, Strickland.
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post #133 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:33pm
I had three actors that were in mind for round one. Clooney, Depp, and Murray. Each of them would have warranted different draft picks in later rounds, but I'm pretty happy I got Murray.
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post #134 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:33pm
Love the Mary Louise Parker pick. I would have loved to get her. She's really proven her talent level on Weeds.
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post #135 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:33pm
I was absolutely sure he'd be gone before my turn. Completely convinced. Murray was in my top picks as well, as was RDJ. And Hoffman, in fact. But Buscemi was always my number one pick.
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post #136 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:34pm
I REALLY like the Marie Louise Parker pick.
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post #137 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:36pm
And Martin Savage takes the other guy I was waffling back and forth on. I was starting to think that MAYBE he was gonna squeak by, but it was a false hope.
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post #138 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:36pm
Trejo, I have to see the rest of your list. Nice pick for Rath. Really happy to get Jackman after losing the obvious Downey, Clooney and Damon.
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post #139 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:37pm
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Originally Posted by Tati View Post
I REALLY like the Marie Louise Parker pick.
She has Naomi Watts syndrome from King Kong. It's always big watery eyes. Every scene. Big. Watery. Eyes.
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post #140 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:37pm
I'm still working on my "why," but yeah, after Streep, she's the greatest American actress working today. Fact.
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post #141 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:39pm
Oh the things I would have done to Parker's West Wing character.
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post #142 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:39pm
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Originally Posted by Eric Cordo View Post
She has Naomi Watts syndrome from King Kong. It's always big watery eyes. Every scene. Big. Watery. Eyes.
Quiet, you!
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post #143 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:40pm
Yeah, Parker was on my (still being formed) list. A good pick. She can pretty much play anything.
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post #144 of 1231
6/18/08 at 4:52pm
I have to agree with SD's defense of Cruise, although I am in the camp that thinks he's at his best when he's playing unsympathetic or anti-heroes, like in Magnolia/Vampire/Collateral.
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post #145 of 1231
6/18/08 at 5:00pm
I was hoping she'd last till later, but hard to argue with Linney going this early. Good one, Anya.
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post #146 of 1231
6/18/08 at 5:00pm
And now I hate Anya. He took my #1 female pick....
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post #147 of 1231
6/18/08 at 5:10pm
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And now I hate Anya. He took my #1 female pick....
Yeah, mine too. Bastard.
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post #148 of 1231
6/18/08 at 5:10pm
It's tough to say someone will suck with one pick but Jean-Claude Van Damme, with whatever criteria you use, is horrible. Besides not being able to act all his movies are about him. Does he ever let anyone else shine, take the glory, or try to get in a supporting role?

I read the reasoning but the pick just sucks. It's one thing to go the character actor first route because they can actually act. This group of 7 sounds like people that just mug for the camera and parrot their lines.
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post #149 of 1231
6/18/08 at 5:13pm
Well, JCVD would like a word with you, because in that movie, he doesn't suck. At all. And it's surprising, but I guess he has to compensate for the lack of useless splits in boxers.
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post #150 of 1231
6/18/08 at 5:15pm
Motherfuck Matt Goldberg. While Winslet wasn't necessarily my top female pick, she was definitely in the top three. And now, she's gone. Man...drafting last tomorrow is gonna SUCK.
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