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http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...815845,00.html

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As summer vacation begins, 17 girls at Gloucester High School are expecting babies—more than four times the number of pregnancies the 1,200-student school had last year. Some adults dismissed the statistic as a blip. Others blamed hit movies like Juno and Knocked Up for glamorizing young unwed mothers. But principal Joseph Sullivan knows at least part of the reason there's been such a spike in teen pregnancies in this Massachusetts fishing town. School officials started looking into the matter as early as October after an unusual number of girls began filing into the school clinic to find out if they were pregnant. By May, several students had returned multiple times to get pregnancy tests, and on hearing the results, "some girls seemed more upset when they weren't pregnant than when they were," Sullivan says. All it took was a few simple questions before nearly half the expecting students, none older than 16, confessed to making a pact to get pregnant and raise their babies together. Then the story got worse. "We found out one of the fathers is a 24-year-old homeless guy," the principal says, shaking his head.

The question of what to do next has divided this fiercely Catholic enclave. Even with national data showing a 3% rise in teen pregnancies in 2006—the first increase in 15 years—Gloucester isn't sure it wants to provide easier access to birth control. In any case, many residents worry that the problem goes much deeper. The past decade has been difficult for this mostly white, mostly blue-collar city (pop. 30,000). In Gloucester, perched on scenic Cape Ann, the economy has always depended on a strong fishing industry. But in recent years, such jobs have all but disappeared overseas, and with them much of the community's wherewithal. "Families are broken," says school superintendent Christopher Farmer. "Many of our young people are growing up directionless."

The girls who made the pregnancy pact—some of whom, according to Sullivan, reacted to the news that they were expecting with high fives and plans for baby showers—declined to be interviewed. So did their parents. But Amanda Ireland, who graduated from Gloucester High on June 8, thinks she knows why these girls wanted to get pregnant. Ireland, 18, gave birth her freshman year and says some of her now pregnant schoolmates regularly approached her in the hall, remarking how lucky she was to have a baby. "They're so excited to finally have someone to love them unconditionally," Ireland says. "I try to explain it's hard to feel loved when an infant is screaming to be fed at 3 a.m."

The high school has done perhaps too good a job of embracing young mothers. Sex-ed classes end freshman year at Gloucester, where teen parents are encouraged to take their children to a free on-site day-care center. Strollers mingle seamlessly in school hallways among cheerleaders and junior ROTC. "We're proud to help the mothers stay in school," says Sue Todd, CEO of Pathways for Children, which runs the day-care center.

But by May, after nurse practitioner Kim Daly had administered some 150 pregnancy tests at Gloucester High's student clinic, she and the clinic's medical director, Dr. Brian Orr, a local pediatrician, began to advocate prescribing contraceptives regardless of parental consent, a practice at about 15 public high schools in Massachusetts. Currently Gloucester teens must travel about 20 miles (30 km) to reach the nearest women's health clinic; younger girls have to get a ride or take the train and walk. But the notion of a school handing out birth control pills has met with hostility. Says Mayor Carolyn Kirk: "Dr. Orr and Ms. Daly have no right to decide this for our children." The pair resigned in protest on May 30.

Gloucester's elected school committee plans to vote later this summer on whether to provide contraceptives. But that won't do much to solve the issue of teens wanting to get pregnant. Says rising junior Kacia Lowe, who is a classmate of the pactmakers': "No one's offered them a better option." And better options may be a tall order in a city so uncertain of its future. —with reporting by Kimberley McLeod/New York
TIME dropped the ball on this one. They really needed to get some quotes from the folks who blame JUNO.
post #2 of 54
This makes me so sad that I don't even know where to begin. I went to a high school with a similar problem on a slightly smaller scale and I know exactly why it happens - the school system and the parents of these girls have utterly failed them. Anyone who so much as references Juno can suck it.
post #3 of 54
A pregnancy pact? Blood isn't enough any more?
post #4 of 54
Hey, hey, let's not forget 'Baby Mama' in this equation.

What's really sad...someone smart, successful, takes good care of himself will not have his genes passed on (I know, boorish and patriarchal) and here you have this homeless guy and he just shot to the top of the evolutionary ladder. Life's a funny, funny comedienne sometimes, I tell you what.
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"We found out one of the fathers is a 24-year-old homeless guy," the principal says, shaking his head.
"Toothless Joe fathered my bundle of joy!"
post #6 of 54
I love how if something is in a movie, it's automatically "glamorized". Maybe these kids need to watch more porn, so they can emulate the "glamorized" action of pulling out.
post #7 of 54
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Originally Posted by Jake View Post
"Toothless Joe fathered my bundle of joy!"
What would be awesome is if that homeless man is in fact the same one as JCassidy's McDonald story. If so, he the Homeless Man of the Year.
post #8 of 54
Each one of these girls' parents should be taken to the town square and pelted with rotten eggs for at least a weekend. How the fuck can you do such a fucked up job raising your kids?
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What would be awesome is if that homeless man is in fact the same one as JCassidy's McDonald story. If so, he the Homeless Man of the Year.
Nah, he's still no Hobo with a Shotgun.
post #10 of 54
I've been trying to shoehorn a Species II joke for 10 minutes. I can't figure it out.
post #11 of 54
Keep working on it Tati, your country demands it.
post #12 of 54
I've been to Gloucester. Not much going on. The very last thing you want when you're that down and out is to have a kid. Think times were tough before? My god, you have no idea.
post #13 of 54
Thread Starter 
When I was in High School some of my friends and I made a pact. But instead of getting pregnant it revolved around us vowing to beat our rival Westmoor High at coed volleyball during the school district's annual Spring picnic. Sweet Lord, did I have my spike on that day.
post #14 of 54
There's a daycare AT THE SCHOOL? How close is this school to the one with the cross-branding "science" teacher?

eta: haha, the ad that was at the bottom of this page was for fun and exciting pro-life products.
post #15 of 54
Wake up, people! Did NONE of you see Village of the Damned?
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Wake up, people! Did NONE of you see Village of the Damned?
Shit. With Christopher Reeve dead, looks like it's up to Kirstie Alley... ...oh shit. It's all part of their plan.
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Originally Posted by Doc Happenin View Post
Hey, hey, let's not forget 'Baby Mama' in this equation.

What's really sad...someone smart, successful, takes good care of himself will not have his genes passed on (I know, boorish and patriarchal) and here you have this homeless guy and he just shot to the top of the evolutionary ladder. Life's a funny, funny comedienne sometimes, I tell you what.
Idiocracy is no longer a comedy. It's pure horror.
post #18 of 54
Enough of the 24-year-old-homeless-dude bashing! I know plenty of young guys who are bouncing around from place to place trying to figure their lives out, and none of them are beneath your respect. Except when they father children in a pregnancy pact. But even then it could be a She Hate Me scenario.
post #19 of 54
Those aren't homeless. Those are drifters. There's a difference, ya know.
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Originally Posted by MissZooey View Post
This makes me so sad that I don't even know where to begin. I went to a high school with a similar problem on a slightly smaller scale and I know exactly why it happens - the school system and the parents of these girls have utterly failed them. Anyone who so much as references Juno can suck it.
What she said. And I thought that having three girls who graduated pregnant in my class was alot. Of course, they were all three in the National Honor Society - meaning, the smartest kids in our class. Not only did we non-pregnant ones get a good laugh, but we'd paid enough attention in English class that we understood the meaning of the word "irony."
post #21 of 54
God, smart people can be so dumb. I'm especially looking at you Juno.
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I know its the easiest thing to do for the news to point at media as a reason morons do things, but claiming Juno and Knocked Up glamorized pregnancy is instantly retarded. Not like Juno was having a great time being pregnant, and at least she decided to give the baby up for adoption, instead of purposely fucking a homeless guy and getting on wellfare. Both films warned that its not a great idea to go getting pregnant when you're young and irresponsible. Though a person in the media who I agree you actually can point blame at for something like this is Jamie Lynn Spears. Fucking whore encourages all these other whores to do this, along with all these other morons getting pregnant and making it look like a baby is just as much fun as a puppy that will always love you.
post #23 of 54
Perhaps the church needs to come out with some strong anti-pregnancy videos to counter this rise in teen pregnancy, like;

Rapture my back door
or
The Virgin Mary knelt too: electric boogaloo
post #24 of 54
The Catholic Church: We'll bend on the whole sex before marriage sin, but no birth control or your going to hell!!!! Now where them little boys?
post #25 of 54
What I want to know is: did they pick the homeless guy up at a Mcdonald's and was there a celabratory cheeseburger involved?


And I have to sig JKJ (Sorry, Doc).
post #26 of 54
I can't wait for the birth defects.
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I can't wait for the birth defects.
Between this story, the teacher branding crosses on his students, the lady with the killer underwear, the Hogan Family (Jesus - watch the video of that poor kid), The Secret (Yeah, no Shirley Manson, no Cheetos, and it's been 72 hours now) the adventures of Amy Winehouse, and take your pick of scandal from the Politics thread, I can't wait for the complete and total destruction of the entire human race.

I'm going back to bed.
post #28 of 54
Day Care Center in school: Good idea

Lack of information and access to contraception and birth control: Bad idea

Banging homeless men to get preggers because you have low self-esteem and no real understanding of what having a child means: Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
post #29 of 54
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"They're so excited to finally have someone to love them unconditionally,"
If I found out my mom-to-be took away my chance at being raised by responsible parents because of a reason this selfish, I'd wait until she was in a crowded area, fly out of her vagina, slap the shit out of her with my umbilical cord while screaming "YOO SKROO'D ME OVER, BICH! YOO SKROO'D ME!", and then abort myself.
post #30 of 54
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Originally Posted by MissZooey View Post
Anyone who so much as references Juno can suck it.
If those girls would have heeded that advice, then none of them would be in this situation.

A homeless guy? A high school freshman girl wanted to get pregnant, so she hunted up a homeless guy? Wow. She's surrounded by teenage boys all day and needs a homeless guy to fuck her? Most boys her age would stick their dick into a paper towel roll, yet she couldn't find any of them that wanted to fuck her. This chick must really be ugly.
post #31 of 54
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This chick must really be ugly.
These girls have no self esteem. They're all ugly.
post #32 of 54
Wasn't this a Clive Barker novel? I swear this is how The Great and Secret Show begins.
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Originally Posted by Timothy225 View Post
Between this story, the teacher branding crosses on his students, the lady with the killer underwear, the Hogan Family (Jesus - watch the video of that poor kid), The Secret (Yeah, no Shirley Manson, no Cheetos, and it's been 72 hours now) the adventures of Amy Winehouse, and take your pick of scandal from the Politics thread, I can't wait for the complete and total destruction of the entire human race.

I'm going back to bed.
The human race sucks. I wish I had the skills to fuck off into the wilderness and never have to deal with anyone again. But unfortunately if I tried that now I'd be dead in a couple of days.
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The human race sucks. I wish I had the skills to fuck off into the wilderness and never have to deal with anyone again. But unfortunately if I tried that now I'd be dead in a couple of days.
You'd probably do better than Christopher McCandless.
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And I have to sig JKJ (Sorry, Doc).

That makes me a sad panda.
post #36 of 54
Well, on a lighter note, that'll mean Gloucester will have at least 17 new janitors and gas station attendants. Yay, Gloucester!
post #37 of 54
Don't forget about fishermen.
post #38 of 54
Well, there's always a need for someone to ladle chum, and these folks obviously don't need no fancy book larnin' for that, so....
post #39 of 54
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Idiocracy is no longer a comedy. It's a documentary.

Fixed.
post #40 of 54
The one who fucked the homeless guy must be a real hottie.
post #41 of 54
They're made for each other really...http://www.bumsinaction.com/img/set/02/big.jpg NSFW
post #42 of 54
Oh, to be 24 and homeless again.
post #43 of 54
Makes me wonder what would have happened if "4 Months, 3 Weeks, and 2 Days" were as popular as "Juno."
post #44 of 54
For the record, it sounds like the "pact" component to this story may have been overstated. The principal offered it as an explanation for the spike in pregnancies, but it sounds like his memory might have been foggy. It might be that the girls made a pact after finding out they were pregnant that they'd raise the babies together.

Obviously, there are still some big problems with teen pregnancy in that town, but this eliminates one of the News of the Weird elements at play. I'll be curious to see if the homeless guy thing turns out to be overstatement, too.
post #45 of 54
Man, kids these days need to start watching Rosemary's Baby, that'll put the fear of god into them and keep their legs closed!
post #46 of 54
Are we sure this isn't the work of the Deep Ones? I mean, New England fishing village and all. . . . Maybe they just swam too close to Devil's Reef.
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Originally Posted by Doc Happenin View Post
Man, kids these days need to start watching Rosemary's Baby, that'll put the fear of god into them and keep their legs closed!
Or Inside. That would cause mass hysterectomies.
post #48 of 54
The saga of The Sisterhood of Traveling Preggers continues...


So-called pregnancy pact in Mass. town questioned


GLOUCESTER, Mass. - A pregnant high school student disputed her principal's headline-grabbing theory Tuesday that girls in this New England fishing town made a pact to get pregnant and raise their babies together.

"There was definitely no pact," 17-year-old Lindsey Oliver told "Good Morning America" on Tuesday. "There was a group of girls already pregnant that decided they were going to help each other to finish school and raise their kids together. I think it was just a coincidence."

Oliver, who is five months pregnant, said she and her 20-year-old boyfriend, Andrew Psalidas, a community college student, were using birth control and her pregnancy was unplanned.

Mayor Carolyn Kirk also denied a pact existed after a closed-door meeting with city, school and health leaders on Monday.

"Any planned blood-oath bond to become pregnant — there is absolutely no evidence of," Kirk said Monday.

Absent from that meeting was Gloucester High School Principal Joseph Sullivan, who has not responded to repeated requests for comment after he was quoted last week in a Time magazine story saying the girls planned to get pregnant together.

Kirk cited privacy concerns in refusing to answer many questions about the 17 girls who became pregnant this school year — more than quadruple the number who generally become pregnant at the school.

Kirk said she and Superintendent Christopher Farmer have been in touch with Sullivan, and he was "foggy in his memory" about how he came to believe there was a pact.

"When pressed, his memory failed," the mayor said.

Kirk said school and health authorities who worked with the children on a daily basis "have said there has been no mention whatsoever of a pact."

Calls to Sullivan's office and home have not been returned. So far, Sullivan is the only school or city official who has used the term "pact."

Time magazine posted a story on its Web site Monday that included new quotes from its earlier interview with Sullivan. "They made a pact to get pregnant and raise their babies together," Time quoted Sullivan as saying.

Time also reported Monday that Pathways for Children chief executive Sue Todd, whose organization runs the high school's onsite daycare center, told the magazine on June 13 that its social worker had heard of the girls' plan to get pregnant as early as last fall.

But Todd on Tuesday disputed the story and denied any of her employees knew of such plans.

"At no time have I stated to anyone that our social worker had knowledge of this. I have stated the opposite," Todd told The Associated Press. "If anyone would be aware of this pact being real it would be us, because we run the program."

A spokesman for Time, Cub Barrett, said the magazine had no immediate comment.

The mayor said the spike in pregnancies is in keeping with similar spikes in other cities.

Nationwide, the teen birth rate rose 3 percent from 2005 to 2006, the most recent year with data available, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. That was the first increase recorded since 1991, but federal health officials said it might be a one-year statistical blip.

The CDC didn't release city-specific data in that report.

Farmer said there was a "distinct possibility" that the girls who found themselves in similar, challenging situations later decided to "come together for mutual support." He said the Time magazine piece did not distinguish between "a pact to become pregnant or a pact because we are pregnant."

Gloucester resident Annette Dion, a 45-year-old private music teacher, said school and city officials should have done more to find out whether the girls truly made a pact to become pregnant. But she also said denying such a pact existed is "pretty naive."

"I don't think we heard the truth today," Dion said, adding that pop culture has glamorized teen pregnancy and that movies and celebrity pregnancies do not give girls an accurate picture of parenthood.
post #49 of 54
Fuck the media.

EDIT: In hell.
post #50 of 54
A coincidence? How the hell are we supposed to make fun of a coincidence? Now what will we do?
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