THE DARK KNIGHT Post Release - Page 3

Holy haberdashery, Batman fans.Just thought i'd give you guys a heads up if you don't already know.IESB.net has 12 clips from the Dark Knight.

what a masterpiece, my review is *****/**** guys

the only way it beter is if they dub mark hammils darkly defnitive joker voice over ledgers body. that way it prefect

10 stars forme guys

I would say the fighting seems a lot easier to follow in this movie than in BB, at least based on this clip http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option...ctlink&id=1220

Despite telling myself not to, I checked those out last night, and I have to say, I really liked Bale in all of them. He's seems looser, funnier, and the brief banter between he and Alfred really connects. He feels present. Also, it looks like he's showing up Superman in the ABC's of how to effectively stalk your Ex.

Technically speaking, Batman does.

And with that I'm out until the 18th, I don't even want to know the explanation on that one.

Same here. It's difficult to resist the temptation though.

Was that really...Moriarty from AICN?

I'll pose the question again..........


Is Two-Face a major factor in the film or just a tease for a third installment? Or both?

Or worse yet, are we in for a "major villain wasted and shoehorned in for the last reel or two" ala Venom in Spider-Man III?

How did that hurt Begins? Batman is supposed to be right on the edge.

Yeah. You are reading the message board posts of social retards and adolescents to feel better about yourself. That's not lame at all, right?

The hyperbole around here is just as bad. 99% of the people on this board haven't even seen the movie but some have already decided it's "meh to okay" based solely on the opinion of a guy who hates super heroes. Of course he's not going to over the moon about this movie.

Devin hates super heroes? Whose ass are you pulling your information out of?

http://forums.superherohype.com/

I want to hear more about the experiance of seeing this thing in IMAX. Nick, Devin, can you chime in on that?

It's really, really big.

Good?

So, Devin: Spider-Man 3 or Dark Knight? Which stumbles more than it succeeds, best of intentions not withstanding?

Devin's review mean nothing. He's more interested in making this about him. This is why he created the Holy Hyperbole thread. To draw attention to himself. You didn't like Batman begins? Fine. Your opinion has been noted.

I'll wait untill the week of release and see what RESPECTED critic's have to say about the movie. Then I'll see it and make up my own mind. There are aspects of Begins that irked me. Katie Holmes, the third act train climax. But I'm willing to overlook those flaws because Nolan took a ridiculous concept like Batman and did it seriously. There was quality in that movie despite KFC's assertion.

The fact that Devin prefered Fantastic 4 should render his thought's on BB as moot. F4 was a light and fluffy piece of disposable cotten candy. Perhaps all Devin wants out of a comic book movie is two hours of surface level entertainment. Nothing too heavy. The fact that Devin saw nothing wrong with Peter Parker turning into a flirtatious hipster in snappy clothes, in Spider-man 3, as a sign of his decent into darkness speaks volumes. God fobid Raimi went all dramatic and shit.

Devin was determined to not like this movie because he has something to prove. Maybe he and the other reviewers should refrain from being involved in the forums. There are some people who said "Devin didn't like BB, what a fucking moron". He didn't like it? Who cares but the fact that he engages in a flamewar against anyone who has a different oppinion shows that he can't handle anyone refuting what he thinks. The fact that he has approached every scrap of Dark Knight news with some sort of snark or sarcasm shows that he is a fat little pussy.

I see where you come from HappyCat, but Devin said he LIKED this movie.

A) He liked Dark Knight.

B) Batman Begins was a movie that spent the first hour setting up a wonderful theme and then breaking it with a car chase.

C)You admitted yourself to overlooking a movies flaws. Unreal. You literally block out the bad in your fan boy wet dream of a mind.

D) Reviews are subjective, they ARE about the critic, they're not a report card about the film, that's boring, you fucking skum bucket cunt faced piece of monkey shit waste of skin.

Damn, got so close without resorting to that.

What deity do I have to sacrifice to to kill once and for all the fucking Fantastic Four/Batman Begins drama?

Yes he did but only begrudgingly so.

Man, this movie's really bringing them out.

Oh, please. The reason nobody but the biggest Chud-sucker is going to take ANY review he writes seriously is because he's been slamming the film for a year now. He's such a narcissistic sociopath that he'd rather say he "liked" the film and then list a hundred reasons why it sucked than to admit he was wrong. Bear in mind, I haven't seen it, and he has, so I'm not going to defend a film I know nothing about beyond trailers and TV spots -- but by the same token, I'm not going to rip it to shreds before seeing it, either.

I find it hilarious that so many sycophants are standing up for poor Devin, who's getting unfairly shit on for having an opinion of his own, particularly since he has zero tolerance for the opinions of others.

Bring the snark.

EDIT: For the record, I am NOT a fanboy for the Batman franchise. I am in no way emotionally invested in defending the film. It's just that I'm not emotionally invested in tearing it apart, nor am I emotionally invested in telling people they're stupid for their particular taste in films.

Yep, it's like the short bus has been unloading it's very special patrons here.

Hey, did you know that when you smile, I can see Devin's shit in your teeth...?

How about actually responding to logical points rather than hurling insults. Or are you too "special" to understand the logic in that...?

My God, what a bunch of cunts.

Devin said he liked the film and that's not good enough for you, I don't have to explain anything. That shit's nuts.

Getting people's panties in a twist is fun, though it'd be more fun if some people were able to accept that other people have different opinions than them. And fans who can't acknowledge that the car chase in Batman Begins is terrible, and that the third act is a tad... hinky are lying to themselves.

Obviously, you seem to have missed all the threads where Chewers offer THEIR different opinions, only to have Devin call them "morons" and other such insulting names.

Selective memory from the staff.

“Reviews are subjective, they ARE about the critic, they're not a report card about the film, that's boring, you fucking skum bucket cunt faced piece of monkey shit waste of skin.” Just the type of critical thinking that I’d expect from the drones that post here on a regular basis. You can’t even wait to make up your own mind. You read Devin’s review and conclude “oh well, it’s shit, too bad”. Try thinking for yourself sometime and despite your assertions, I just hope that TDK will be a better movie then BB. But you'd rather have a review that's colored by someones unobjective view? You are a fucking moron, probably Republican to.

But somehow you made this leap that I’m some sort of fanboy who expects TDK to be a masterpiece and won’t take anyone’s word otherwise. If Devin was a reviewer who I respected, who didn’t flame people and didn’t have a group of ass kissing sycophants who shit on anyone who challenges him, then I might be inclined to believe him. But I don’t because of his attitude and lack of objectivity. Was anyone not expecting him to love Hellboy 2? That’s because the people who run this site have been giving sloppy blowjobs to GDT because he showed some interest in C.H.U.D. back when you all laughably thought M.E.G. was a possibility. A project about a giant shark 33 years after JAWS came out. But you all act as though it was going to be the greatest movie of all time. And who is the fanboy?

I find it so amusing the way FANBOY is thrown at anyone who doesn’t tow the line like a lemming. Why don’t you use the old “stop posting from your parents basement line”? Man, that stuff never gets old from a bunch of people who spend a great deal of time on a message board talking about movies.

For people who supposedly know a lot about filmmaking then you should know that Nolan wasn’t exactly given a blank check and total freedom to make BB. I would have liked something that transcended the superhero genre by not relying on a-typical romantic subplots or climactic chases but I didn’t see anyone bitching about Peter Parker and M.J.’s relationship or the train chase in Spider-man 2.

The difference is that Raimi was coming off the first Spider-man, which was a blockbuster and allowed him the freedom to make a better movie then the first. If you say Spider-man was better the Batman Begins then you are a fucking liar. If you try to argue that Spider-man 1 wasn’t as formula as BB then you have your head too far up your ass.

Yes, I will overlook a movies flaws if the overall product is well made, just as I did with Spider-man 1 or X-Men 1. Show me a movie that doesn’t have a few problems dickhead?

The question is “did Nolan learn from his mistakes and deliver a stronger sequel?” Well, according to Devin himself, the movie sounds like an improvement over BB. But even if it was a GREAT movie I doubt he would stoop to admit it because of his status as a fat pussy.

I can't remember every time Devin called someone an idiot (who could), but if you don't understand how the ending of BB is lacking, then maybe you have some cogniative dissonance. There's also a difference between contextual analysis, and making shit up to support an untenable thesis.

You seem really butthurt. You should sit on some ice.

These Batman apologists are like Hillaryis44.org posters.

HappyCat: Neither happy, nor a cat.

Try a little harder to miss the point.

This thread is already all I hoped it would be, and the movie hasn't even come out yet.

I can't wait for when the real meat and potatoes set in. But what will be the main cause of concern for nerds? I predict that there'll be a lot of flaming about underuse of Two-Face, but I think the unexpected, out-of-the-blue fighting will be based around the fact that Batman beats up 4 dogs. That's the sort of weird thing that comes out of nowhere and hijacks discussion.

"No batman is a dark night, him beating upa dog is necessary to adher to his code"

"Why so many dogs though?"

"haha your an idiot, did you want the joker to have man eating flowers like in the adam west series? haha go watc fnatastic four it is ovbiously more your speed. This is dark andfor adults who can deal withit"

"He's right, underworld statistics [link] show that dogs are the most commonly used animal by small-time gangs"

etc etc

Can we fucking talk about the movie again?

By which you mean "Can't we all talk about Devin's opinion of the movie again?".

Isn't this Post Release Thread a little premature? All this stuff should be placed in the Pre-release Thread instead. The movie comes out in July 18th right?

I thought I got the point. You don't take Devin's opinion seriously, but you want to write about what a dick you think he is (which - of course - undercuts your central thesis), even though he said that he liked the film, but has some problems with it. But because Devin's spent the last however long saying that he didn't look forward to a sequel to a film he wasn't crazy about (which was hilarious because of people like you, by the by), somehow his everything is invalidated, so... God, so butthurt.

By the way, I'm sure you've never said anything snarky about a film like Step Up 2 - The Streets or Cheaper by the Dozen 2.

I mean go back to the SHH boards with that noise.

Oh, the old "Apologist" label. I don't apologise for BB's problems but I wouldn't call the movie trash just because it has them. But Devin doesn't like it soo all of you don't like it either.

By that token I think you should be called C.H.U.D. Fanboys or Devin Apologists. To busy kissing ass to have your own opinion and even if you did the fat pussy and his browncoats would browbeat you for thinking otherwise untill you submitted or are banned.

No, my point is that a critic should be objective. A critic should also respect his audience. Devin practices neither.

I love how he geeks out when someone like Spielberg acknowledges having read his articles and reviews, and then continues to insult his readers whenever humanly possible, on the front page as well as in the forum. His opinion of himself is so wildly inflated that he thinks he can get away with saying whatever he wants -- an attitude fostered by people like yourself.

Bottom line is that CHUD is just one more little fishy in a very large pond, and however well-written or well-thought out it might be, Devin's opinion carried far less weight than he--or you--seem to think.

PS: The last third of Batman Begins is a mess.

Andre Dellamorte, neither smart nor clever. Nice post count. Doesn't your life get in the way of posting here?

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Yes, that's how we operate.

Sorry guys, I totally caused this thread to tailspin. I couldn't resist.

Getting banned for having an opinion. No, that wouldn't prove my point or anything.

Man I love people who spend all of their time watching movies and posting on a message board, calling comic book fans nerds. Everyone is guilty of some form of nerdism but I love the way insecure people have to act as though what they obsess over is somehow superior to the interests of everyone else to overcompensate for their self loathing.

Also, I have little or no interest in comic books apart from graphic novels FYI such as Watchmen which I appreciate as a genuine piece of literature.

Funny how I've read here how some of you have been going to SHH just so you can read what people say about Devin's review. That's amusing in a sad and pathetic way.

Of course, you can make any assumptions you want, but - here's the thing - I enjoy being here. If you want to suggest that I have no life, it would be much easier if I was hanging out at some place where my sole purpose was to show how much I didn't like the place or its inhabitants.

A critics is never objective, but here's the thing, Devin talked all that shit, and now said "hey, I thought the film was good." In any other place that isn't the dumbshit playpen that is the internet that would be considered objectivity. And I would argue that no critic should write to the lowest common denominator, so if people can't accept that there are good reasons to dislike the third act of BB, then how can you respect them?

We'll just ignore the fact that statement is the fanboy fallback line when it comes to graphic novels and comics.

Carry on.

It is actually.