THE DARK KNIGHT Post Release - Page 2

Batman carries a cell phone on him?

Also, I'm wondering what this sci-fi element could be. Are you just being a smart ass about the Joker conveniently planting bombs or is there something else?

If Depp can get a nod for an obvious Keith Richards impersonation, then surely the world wouldn't explode if Ledger got one.

Funny Letterman review. no spoilers. "Oh, thank god he's back"...

So I jumped over to SHH to see just how up in arms they were.....And all I can say is DAMN.

It's amazing to see them all up in arms over what Devin has said....I mean it's pretty hysterical to read what some of them are saying....But I can't say i'm shocked by it.

So Devin didn't love it....Ok get over it and move on....Just because he doesn't think it's great doesn't change my anticipation over the film....Does everyone expect to think that every critic is gonna like TDK....That's just silly.

I don't always agree with Devin's reviews but i'm not gonna bash him for his opinion....He thinks the dance number in spidey 3 was great where I think it was a total jump the shark moment....There are movies that he loves that I can't stand....And there are movies I like that he thought were stupid....And then there are movies that we both liked.....And then there is The Happening.

But i'm not gonna sit here and call him a prick or chode just because he didn't like TDK....Shit I haven't even seen the movie yet....And while i'm sure i'll end up enjoying it doesn't mean i'm gonna shit all over him because he didn't.

Seriously.....Some of these people are the reason why I stay pro-nuclear.

I'm guessing the answer may be in post #6 of this thread.

"Batman magically turns every cellphone in Gotham City into a sonar transmitter or something so that he can see through walls and shit and Lucius Fox can sit in a room and look at every person in Gotham. Real dumb."

... maybe.

In the months leading up to today: "Oh, you know Devin is going to hate Dark Knight because he hated Begins!"

Today: "OMG, Devin hated Dark Knight!"

Must be nice to be able to be surprised by the expected.

I love Batman Begins unabashedly. I like this a good deal, it's just too fat. Lots of extraneous stuff and the scenes don't flow together as well as they should. It's still a damn solid flick, just not a masterpiece.

Bale is good btw. He's always good. His Batman voice does get old, though.

Devin didn't hate it. The whole ride back to his place (and it's a long ride!) was us talking about the good and the bad. He carried no bias into this one, nor I. Plus it was IMAX/Digital Projection. Pretty exciting.

Honestly, and not seeing the movie, I really believe this scene is totally not needed. Batman is meant to protect Gotham, i.e. stay in Gotham. When I first read about him being in Hong Kong, I felt it was a bad idea.

Some jackass just spoiled this for me, so I might as well ask about it. How does the "he switched the addresses bit" work? Is it emotional?

Since this is a spoiler thread, who dies? I think I know but just wanted confirmation. For some reason this is a film I don't mind being spoiled on.

I'd forgotten about the Hong Kong bit, but now I remember not liking the idea back when it was first mentioned.

Thanks for the heads up guys.

Even though it's a spoiler thread, I'll put it in black text so those who come in simply to see Devin and Nick's opinion won't have it ruined:

Rachel meets a fiery end, apparently.

I'm with you on that one.

Just read some of the SHH comments, and god, what a pack of idiots. This one was my particular favorite (bolded parts mine):
Sooo...what? Is the implication that Devin's a bad person because he didn't out and out love the movie? ZOMG! Devin, you're going to sink into obscurity because you weren't completely bananas about this movie!

Devin is a bad person for not loving the movie. Let this be a lesson to everybody -- if you don't love The Dark Knight, you're a pedophile.

This is starting to derail into the fanboy discussion territory, but I've rarely seen a better example of it. I'm just baffled as to how some of the more extreme Batfans act like they have some kind of personal investment in the movie.

It doesn't matter if TDK is good (although of course it must the best film ever made, how couldn't it be?), or even if reviewers really likes it. "The Rolling Stone reviewer loved it, but why did he just give it 3.5/4 instead of 4/4?"

Who the fuck cares? How can that half a point even cause anybody to start worrying - not about the film - but about what the reviewer has against Batman? Their obsession has gone so far that the film itself becomes secondary, and what's more important is the need for a public validation of Batman/comics in general.

There can be no discussion, flaws must be overlooked or ignored, because this is a gritty, dark, realistic, deep, and meaningful interpretation of a man dressed as a bat fighting crime, dammit!

It's "their" property, and thus not fair, but actually hurtful when someone like Devin (who clearly isn't worthy) gets to go to a free screening, or gets a phone from a viral marketing campaign.

And what a marvelous display of wit of intellect there is on display when faced with the fact that a reviewer on another site only found the film to be "good"...

"Ppl on the chud board can lick my balls."

This is nothing new. Most of the people who post at superherohype are creepy fanatics. They obsess over these movies and decide that they're great from the moment they're announced.

You forgot about the groovy bat-mask.

So, is it an honest PG-13, or an R that got a lower rating because it's such a huge summer film?

So I mosied on over to SHH just to check it out thinking "hey, maybe there's some decent discussion going on over there" and boy oh boy was that a mistake. I knew I should bolt immediately after I read this:

But I kept reading. Why. Oh why.

I'm concerned about the fact that (from what I've been reading) this isn't Batman's show once again. And Nolan still hasn't learned how to shoot an action sequence? Motherfucker.

Jesus, I thought you guys were kidding about people bitching that Pete Travers gave the movie 3.5 stars instead of 4. Then I went and read his review and sure enough in the talkbacks...

There's 80 people reading these forums right now, looking for any corn they can pinch out of the turd. Heh.

To those reading, you're going to enjoy the film regardless of what anyone here thinks, so why so serious?

I can't wait to see it.

This is actually frightening, like listening to someone explain the whole 50-virgins-in-heaven-if-I-kill-for-my-God thing.

What the hell we're you thinking, boy? Are you askin' for pain?

I'm disappointed to hear that the movie has some flab and Nolan's action skill-set hasn't improved. Perhaps it's time to bring in a solid second-unit, Chris.

Because this movie is all they have in their lives.

I hope you get roasted on the SHH boards.

1.) I can see my own penis.

2.) I have used said penis to penetrate a woman.

No matter how much SHH rants, I still win.

Personally, I won't lie and say the hype bug hasn't bit me in a big way.

As for what Devin thinks about the film...well for Begins I thought he was shitting all over it just because it was against the popular vote, which is the vibe he gives me sometimes. HOWEVER, after watching Begins a few times I realized he was right on something: the last third of the film doesn't hold up to the rest of it. Not to say it's bad, but it should have been more (And there's one moment that brings up Episode I memories.)

I will say though, the fanbase for Begins soured my tastes on it for a while. It might be great, but it's not the end all be all of film.

I just signed up over there. I feel like having some fun.

I thought it was more frightening in a "I'm a 40 year old man like to take pictures of little children and admire them in the comfrot of my own home because I'm attracted to them but hey, I'm not a pedophile" kind of way.

How are the Harvey / Two-Face scenes handled? I remember reading something about how they filmed Eckhart's performances as Harvey and Two-Face separately then smash-cut them together. I imagine it could be glorious. Does it work in the film?

Don't get me wrong. I'm excited as hell over THE DARK KNIGHT. I love BATMAN BEGINS. People keep pointing out the flaws to me, and I see them, but that doesn't deflate the movie at all for me. But is it the greatest superhero movie ever? Or the top ten greatest cinematic experiences ever? Absolutely not. I'll take 1 THERE WILL BE BLOOD over 10 BATMAN BEGINS. And frankly, anyone who limits themselves to a niche of films is suspect, just like anyone who doesn't like one particular genre of film is suspect.

Was anyone expecting Devin to flat out love this film? I think the fact that he kinda liked it is encouraging. So far from every review I've read, it's an improvement over Begins (kinda surprised to read Devin didn't think the action was better though, from other reviews I've read that seems to be a glaring improvement).

Seems like fans of the original will be very pleased with it and even the ones who weren't enamored will find some enjoyment.

I just got the new issue of American Cinematographer, and there is an interesting article in there about the IMAX cameras that they ended up using for some scenes.

My question is, what did you think of the camera's use in the bank heist/Bats atop the Sears Tower moments? Was there much fluidity in the camera work or was it mostly static shots due to the unruly size of the IMAX cameras(stupid question, I know, but those cameras are about the same weight as the Genesis they used for Superman Returns)?

Also, how did the score sound this time around? Any new themes you can recall?

The problem with the superhero genre is the same problem of the giant monster movie genre, in that it's all settled on almost exactly the same ending, which is that Megalon and Godzilla get into a big fight and then the person who isn't going to be in the sequel either dies or goes to jail. Along the way, there's often the standard "becoming a man/accepting adulthood through responibilty" journey for the main character to go on. That's why none of these films - save The Hulk - ever ages that well. As much fun as these films can be, it's such a shitty genre. I hope Nolan can make something transcendent, but I don't know if you can take this narrative and do that, unless you're ripping off The Watchmen.

Note: I'm talking superhero moveis, not comic book movies.

Devin, you weren't particularly fond of any Batman film, right? Was wondering if you found Dark Knight to be the best one of the batch.

But your opinion is greatly appreciated nonetheless. I've parried through most of this thread just to get a general idea and avoid spoilers, but I look foward to a full review (if you're doing that) after I see the film.

Batman is not a superhero.

You're playing a semantic game, just like Batman at the end of Batman Begins, which explains why you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

For the record:
su·per·he·ro –noun, plural -roes. a hero, esp. in children's comic books and television cartoons, possessing extraordinary, often magical powers.

By definition magical powers aren't necessary to be a superhero.

Also, because I'm a dick, the words from Chris Nolan's Mouth:

"Anything you notice as technology reminds you that you're in a movie theater," Nolan explains. "Even if you're trying to portray something fantastical and otherworldly, it's always about trying to achieve invisible manipulation." Especially, he adds, with Batman, "the most real of all the superheroes, who has no superpowers."

Oh please.

Despite the fact that he may not have superpowers, Batman is considered one of the most popular and recognizable superheroes in history.

Can't play that game with us.

Eh, maybe it is a substantial improvement in the second entry of a genre franchise a la Empire.

Oh, for fucks sake.

Is Anthony Michael Hall playing Hyman Roth?

Does Anthony Michael Hall get much in the way of screen time, or was his stuff relegated to the cutting room floor and viral videos? Out of curiosity, who scars Dent, the mob or the Joker?

I need to see this movie immediately.

I think that you might not be considering the context of the quote.

I completely agree with this assessment, but one could say the same about gangster movies (they all end in shootouts) until THE GODFATHER came along. Having said that, I can't see the superhero movie ever changing this plot device, at least hopefully until THE WATCHMEN.

A bit of a derail, but related: Someone please refresh my memory because I've not read it in quite some time, but doesn't the whole Junior Untouchables thing that Batman, Gordon and Dent have going on in "The Long Halloween", completely fail? Not just with Dent becoming Two-Face, but in every other way as well? I'm assuming that's basically what happens in The Dark Knight.

It sure does. And Christmas is a shitty holiday for Harvey Dent.