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Obama is sort of a moron

post #1 of 47
7/13/08 at 8:14pm
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http://omg.yahoo.com/news/bernie-mac...event/10715?nc

Why the hell would Obama let Bernie Mac do a standup routine and then preach to him about family values right after the set, knowing he pretty much jokes about those things in all his routines.

At least he likes Wilco.
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post #2 of 47
7/13/08 at 8:36pm
Or, one might ask, what the hell was Bernie Mac doing busting out with that sort of material in such a setting? You'd think he'd be media saavy enough to know what would result as a result of saying those sorts of things in that context. Yes, I think it's prudish, hypocritical, immature, counterproductive, humorless rubbish for people to react as they did. However, that's our world and we all know it.

Obama should've been totally clear and have left no room for error by saying "Look, you know you gotta keep it G rated here, right? I know you know that, not saying you don't... but it's my responsibility to point this out. Tone it way down." Clearly that didn't happen.

Bernie Mac seems like the real dolt here. He should have known better. He should have had a better grasp on the context.
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post #3 of 47
7/13/08 at 8:43pm
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Forget Obama, what about his team? No one saw the potential bombshell possible in this type of situation? Seems pretty obvious to me.
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post #4 of 47
7/13/08 at 9:01pm
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Originally Posted by reggie-wanker View Post
Or, one might ask, what the hell was Bernie Mac doing busting out with that sort of material in such a setting? You'd think he'd be media saavy enough to know what would result as a result of saying those sorts of things in that context.
He's a comedian.
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post #5 of 47
7/13/08 at 9:58pm
Same deal happened with David Cross at an event for Dean back in '04 when he launched into his Strom thurmond bit.
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post #6 of 47
7/13/08 at 10:01pm
I still don't see him catching as much flack as the guy who invited Colbert to the Press Corp Dinner.

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Originally Posted by Ambler
Forget Obama, what about his team? No one saw the potential bombshell possible in this type of situation? Seems pretty obvious to me.
You can pretty much place the blame on anyone and you'd be right. I figure Mac doesn't really give a shit one way or the other and will use this as free advertising.
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post #7 of 47
7/13/08 at 10:03pm
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I still don't see him catching as much flack as the guy who invited Colbert to the Press Corp Dinner.
Yeah, but, uh... Colbert's funny. Big difference.
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post #8 of 47
7/13/08 at 10:07pm
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Bernie Mac not funny? Jesus. I guess humor really is subjective.
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post #9 of 47
7/13/08 at 10:10pm
Yeah, you know, I can't make a blanket statement about every single joke Bernie Mac has ever told. But the joke in question? Not really very funny.
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post #10 of 47
7/13/08 at 10:14pm
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Well Mac is funny...the joke? Sort of crosses the line, sure.
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post #11 of 47
7/13/08 at 10:42pm
Politicians should know by now that comedians and politcal fund rasiers don't mix. There were problems when Whoopi Goldberg made obscenity laced remarks at an event for Gore (back in the day) and the right wing press made a lot of hay out of it. Kudos for Obama for heading this off ASAP.

Oh and Benie Mac should have excersied some common sense before getting on stage...but then again, maybe he has no act without being "outrageous"
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post #12 of 47
7/13/08 at 11:04pm
Now Bernie Mac don't back down for nobody, so don't tell Bernie Mac what Bernie Mac can and can't say. I ain't scared of you.
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post #13 of 47
7/14/08 at 4:23am
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Originally Posted by Ambler View Post
http://omg.yahoo.com/news/bernie-mac...event/10715?nc

Why the hell would Obama let Bernie Mac do a standup routine and then preach to him about family values right after the set, knowing he pretty much jokes about those things in all his routines.

At least he likes Wilco.
Considering, at a guess, Barack would have had very little personal input into who would perform if any, I object to your thread title sir.

...and Mac is powerfully unfunny in my book anyway.
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post #14 of 47
7/14/08 at 9:24am
This is for Goldberg and a few others: "He didn't laugh at the joke."

Anyway, Bernie Mac isn't "great," and the joke in question here wasn't funny, but he can definitely be funny. He was good in the Ocean's movies and in the first couple years of his TV show, when Larry Wilmore was the show-runner. And from what I've seen of his stand-up, it's pretty good. Not great, but good.

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At least he likes Wilco.
Also, "The Wire."
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post #15 of 47
7/14/08 at 11:11am
The joke is bad, but what's worse is that it's old. I'm sure Mac didn't write it.
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post #16 of 47
7/14/08 at 11:19am
Obama Mia!
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post #17 of 47
7/14/08 at 11:27am
The thing you gotta remember about Bernie Mac is, he ain't scared of you motherfuckers.
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post #18 of 47
7/14/08 at 11:39am
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...and Mac is powerfully unfunny in my book anyway.
Two words. Bad. Santa.
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post #19 of 47
7/14/08 at 11:42am
Funny or not, that's a really tame joke. You Yanks are even more prudish than us Brits these days, and we've held that title for a long, long time. Even we had Spike Milligan calling Prince Charles a "grovelling bastard".
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post #20 of 47
7/14/08 at 6:03pm
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Originally Posted by MissZooey View Post
Yeah, but, uh... Colbert's funny. Big difference.
I wasn't talking about who is and isn't funny, but rather doing your research on who you're hiring to perform at your show. Whether or not you're a fan of his is besides the point; he doesn't do family friendly or safe material on stage, and so when he shows up and says some shit, don't act surprised. Everyone had the same response to the guys who hired Colbert: what did you expect?
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post #21 of 47
7/14/08 at 6:19pm
People who get offended by comedians telling jokes should all be shot in alleys.
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post #22 of 47
7/14/08 at 6:20pm
Alleys, specifically?
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post #23 of 47
7/14/08 at 6:23pm
It hurts more that way.
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post #24 of 47
7/14/08 at 6:25pm
Alleys are dirty, filthy places. Your wounds would get infected more easily.
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post #25 of 47
7/14/08 at 6:26pm
I am never going to finish hit-woman school if I don't learn to think about the details.
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post #26 of 47
7/14/08 at 6:27pm
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Alleys, specifically?
The Joker from Batman 1989 is dead serious about killing in alleys.
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post #27 of 47
7/14/08 at 6:34pm
"At least he likes Wilco."

Yay, our next hopeful president listens to bad music.
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post #28 of 47
7/14/08 at 6:38pm
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Yay, our next hopeful president listens to bad music.
*slap*

Pistols at dawn, sir!
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post #29 of 47
7/14/08 at 6:38pm
Alas, Andrew C's dream for a leader who listens to Foghat goes unrealized yet again.
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post #30 of 47
7/14/08 at 6:39pm
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Alas, Andrew C's dream for a leader who listens to Foghat goes unrealized yet again.
Bush seems like the kind of guy who might be into some Foghat, actually.
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post #31 of 47
7/14/08 at 6:40pm
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Bush seems like the kind of guy who might be into some Foghat, actually.
And look where that's gotten us...
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post #32 of 47
7/14/08 at 6:42pm
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People who get offended by comedians telling jokes should all be shot in alleys.
What about just finding the joke to either be unfunny or just straight up sucking balls?

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Alleys are dirty, filthy places. Your wounds would get infected more easily.
But make sex that much sweeter.
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post #33 of 47
7/14/08 at 6:42pm
Well, it's certainly been a ride. A long...slow ride, you might say...
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post #34 of 47
7/14/08 at 6:58pm
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But make sex that much sweeter.
Wait, the wounds or the alleys? (I should have a Cronenberg joke here but it's been a long Monday).

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Well, it's certainly been a ride. A long...slow ride, you might say...
Take it easy.
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post #35 of 47
7/14/08 at 6:58pm
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What about just finding the joke to either be unfunny or just straight up sucking balls?
Then Mac joins the 99.9% of professional stand-ups who aren't especially funny. Who fucking cares?

I can't fathom why this is even remotely worthy of discussion, much less controversy.
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post #36 of 47
7/14/08 at 7:01pm
Ha, I didn't even see who started this thread. I suppose Ambler might actually be stupid enough to believe that Obama was backstage writing Bernie's routine for him.
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post #37 of 47
7/14/08 at 7:03pm
Because they're both black, duh.
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post #38 of 47
7/14/08 at 7:08pm
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And look where that's gotten us...
The songs of iPod One
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post #39 of 47
7/14/08 at 7:14pm
He's no Steve Harvey, but Bernie Mac is a funny motherfucker. That's the real tragedy of this thread, the assumption by so many people that Bernie Mac isn't funny. You can't judge an act by little excerpts from Yahoo news. It's all about performance.
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post #40 of 47
7/14/08 at 7:22pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll View Post
He's no Steve Harvey, but Bernie Mac is a funny motherfucker. That's the real tragedy of this thread, the assumption by so many people that Bernie Mac isn't funny. You can't judge an act by little excerpts from Yahoo news. It's all about performance.
Mr 3000
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post #41 of 47
7/14/08 at 7:34pm
He's in a lot of bad movies, for sure, but that's not proof of his lack of talent as a stand-up comedian. That's proof that he's more interested in paychecks than challenging himself as an actor. Which I'm fine with. But his stand-up is quite often hilarious and I'll stand up for his sitcom. While it was nothing extraordinary, it did manage to capture his act well and it was above the average, which is more than his colleagues Steve Harvey and D.L. Hughley can say.
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post #42 of 47
7/14/08 at 7:34pm
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Originally posted by Slater

blah blah blah blah...grunt...blah blah blah...chucklegruntchuckle...blah blah
All hail the ignore button.
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post #43 of 47
7/15/08 at 1:09am
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Alas, Andrew C's dream for a leader who listens to Foghat goes unrealized yet again.
At least Foghat didn't write rambling, mumbly, lazy, psuedo-intellectual alt classic rock Austin City Limits-bait.

I forgot - everyone at Chud is supposed to like the same shit.
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post #44 of 47
7/15/08 at 10:47am
Not true! Your shitty taste doesn't bother me at all.
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post #45 of 47
7/15/08 at 10:50am
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Funny or not, that's a really tame joke. You Yanks are even more prudish than us Brits these days, and we've held that title for a long, long time.
Totally true. I'm surprised that this even made the news, let alone is being debated. Sure, it wasn't funny, but that was fairly tame, there wasn't much to be offended by (assuming that's the worst thing he said, and I can't imagine that at a fundraiser for a presidential candidate that Mac would be dumb enough to do the kind of jokes we have going in the joke thread). If anything, there should be a much bigger offense taken at the current cover of "The New Yorker". Now, that's offensive - this is nothing.
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post #46 of 47
7/15/08 at 7:22pm
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Originally Posted by MissZooey View Post
Yeah, but, uh... Colbert's funny. Big difference.

And the National Press Club dinner is not the same as a political fund raiser. Even bigger difference.
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post #47 of 47
7/15/08 at 7:35pm
Oh, hush you and your insistence on a rational comparison. Let me take my cheap shots at Mac in peace!
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