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post #3251 of 6580
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MUTANTS

 

Wow. Where to begin. It's utterly terrible. And not even laughably so. The monster on the dvd cover? No where in the flick (much like the similarly mis-marketed and named "MUTANT", featuring the creature from FORBIDDEN WORLD on the poster/amray). Michael Ironside? Doesn't appear in most of the movie, except for a scene or 2 in the beginning and the poor climax. I'm utterly shocked they could even afford the ultra-violent-scifi vet on this budget that reminded me of UNSEEN EVIL's meager effort. I take that back, at least that franchise had a monster (even if it was CG and invisible). MUTANTS' plot was something about a missing brother, infected sugar, and rival security guard companies. It featured an occasional insane extra (with a small skin rash) and tons of talking. No suspense. No tension. I feel like I was watching the sequel to some other movie that introduced these characters or was watching a movie where the money ran out, preventing many more interesting scenes from being filmed, including ones with Mutants. The silly beastie on the cover and Michael Ironside's credit reeled me in. Don't let the same thing happen to you.  Worse than any SyFy original or Asylum flick I've seen. The passion-project VAMPIRE ASSASSIN contains more merit. MUTANTS made me long for the craftsmanship of a Fred Olan Ray movie. PLAGUERS starring Steve Railsback is on deck next and it can only go uphill from here.

 

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The person who wrote the copy on the back of the dvd didn't even watch the movie. Says "Only the head of security and his girlfriend can stop the plague..." It was the dude's daughter.

post #3252 of 6580
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Am I a terrible person for saving 2-HEADED SHARK ATTACK with Brooke Hogan and Carmen Electra to my queue?

 

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post #3253 of 6580

Based on that picture, no, no you're not.

post #3254 of 6580

One shark goes one way, the other shark goes the other way, and this guy's sayin' "Whaddaya want from me?"

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Right there with you. I feel like shouting at the tv "You should KNOW BETTER!" Plus, many of these recent duds lack the charm (OTT weirdness, handmade FX) and fun of those earlier flicks. Like someone mentioned earlier in the thread, newer schlock horror tends to be so dour. It's not enough to have "realistic" gore. The horror fan in me that grew up on so-bad-it's good still enjoys discovering that oddball flick from decades ago (or another country). But most new stuff that lined the video store shelves (when there still was video store shelves) comes across as uninspired. "Hey, I can make a movie too with this handy dandy digital camera and editing software! Should it be slasher or zombies???"


Exactly.  As far as I am concerned, you can watch any low budget effort out there and easily be able to tell whether or not they actually cared about what they are making.  Even if the movie is terrible, you can tell if they were actually trying.  Most of them aren't though and it definitely shows.  They're just cranking out shitty low budget horror efforts in the hopes that one of them will become a hit and propel them to stardom.................as opposed to doing it out of a love for filmmaking and the horror genre.  It's just sad and depressing.

 



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Based on that picture, no, no you're not.


I second this!

 

post #3256 of 6580

How do you guys rate the FINAL DESTINATION series? I think 2 is probably the best, but I just watched the much maligned 4th entry, and really enjoyed it. Not the huge drop off I was expecting. (The 3-D was pretty fun) I'm planning on catching 5 tomorrow, so who knows, I might have a new favorite.

post #3257 of 6580

2,3,1,4.

 

The second and third films are excellent.  The first is pretty damn good to.  The fourth film was awful.  I really want to see the new one, but I don't think I'll be getting too many chances to hit up the cinema over the next week or so.............and Rise of the Planet of the Apes is a much higher priority for me.

post #3258 of 6580

For me there's FD2 and then there's everything else. The opening highway disaster is outstanding (and apparently a Tarantino fave), and I almost pissed myself laughing during the whole drawn-out sequence with the lottery-winning guy. The rest of the flick sort of fades in memory, to be honest, but those two scenes are things of beauty and a joy forever. Just amazingly staged and edited.

post #3259 of 6580

Final D 5 is really quite good. I would rate them best to worst  2,5,1,3,4.

post #3260 of 6580

Anyone ever spied an Asian Horror film called Noroi: The Curse? I had to obtain it through creative means. It is a highly effective film.

post #3261 of 6580

Caught up with YellowBrickRoad and definitely cannot recommend it.  On the one hand, the film does a decent job of establishing a decently nightmarish, dreamlike world as our heroes proceed up the trail.  On the other, however, this works against the film because there's no internal consistency or rules regarding the trail's effects on our heroes.  While I'm not the type of person who needs every last detail explained, YellowBrickRoad would have benefited immensely from some little explanation.  Is there a UFO at the end of the trail?  Is it a portal to hell?  Did they all drop acid at the trail's head?  I.  Don't.  Know.  And I kinda suspect the writers don't either.

 

Here's the best way to describe it: you know those nightmarish scenes from Blair Witch Project 2: Book of Shadows?  The scenes where the characters are out in the woods, getting drunk and cavorting about with occasional spurts of violence?  Okay, now extend those scenes for an hour and a half.  That's basically YellowBrickRoad.

post #3262 of 6580
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but I don't think I'll be getting too many chances to hit up the cinema over the next week or so.............and Rise of the Planet of the Apes is a much higher priority for me.


That's all well and good, but DON'T BE AFRAID OF THE DARK should be up there on your list. I highly recommend. APES? It'll be around in theaters for a while longer.

 

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Caught up with YellowBrickRoad and definitely cannot recommend it.  On the one hand, the film does a decent job of establishing a decently nightmarish, dreamlike world as our heroes proceed up the trail.  On the other, however, this works against the film because there's no internal consistency or rules regarding the trail's effects on our heroes.  While I'm not the type of person who needs every last detail explained, YellowBrickRoad would have benefited immensely from some little explanation.  Is there a UFO at the end of the trail?  Is it a portal to hell?  Did they all drop acid at the trail's head?  I.  Don't.  Know.  And I kinda suspect the writers don't either.

 

Here's the best way to describe it: you know those nightmarish scenes from Blair Witch Project 2: Book of Shadows?  The scenes where the characters are out in the woods, getting drunk and cavorting about with occasional spurts of violence?  Okay, now extend those scenes for an hour and a half.  That's basically YellowBrickRoad.


Considering what I wrote about Atrocious not being a good film and reading this, that tie-in with AMC Theatres and Bloody Disgusting seems to be turning out as well as when other websites try to do something with releasing movies (i.e. Fangoria's Fright Fest thing). I know, I know, but do people really care about them in print anymore?

 

At least I can say that Attack The Block is a pretty great film. I wrote about it in the appropriate thread but the horror genre would be better off if more movies made in the present were made like that.

post #3264 of 6580
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That's all well and good, but DON'T BE AFRAID OF THE DARK should be up there on your list. I highly recommend. APES? It'll be around in theaters for a while longer.

 

 

It most definitely is.  I was just speaking of films that have already hit screens.
 

 

post #3265 of 6580

I don't think I stopped laughing for longer than a minute during the final hour of Hobo with a Shotgun; along with The Reef, it's the best surprise of the year so far. It's a highlight reel of the most graphic and hilarious "best moments" from every '80s DTV gore cheapo. I'll be quoting it around the house for weeks.

 

"You can't solve every problem with a shotgun!"

 

"...It's all I know."

 

Watching Rutger Hauer emerge from the mangled bowels of a dirty cop might be my favorite moment captured on film this year.

post #3266 of 6580

Just when I thought Hobo had played itself out, it takes that glorious left turn with "The Plague". Fucking spear-gun nooses. And that shit in the dungeon with the tentacle thing. Fucking amazing.

post #3267 of 6580

The Plague killed Jesus! What's better is that I believe it in the context of the movie.

 

The bear monologue and Hobo's speech to the babies were great, but the little throwaway lines were even better.

 

Abby: "Let's leave together. This isn't the only town where grass grows, you know."

 

Hobo, in genuine amazement: "Really?"

 

 

post #3268 of 6580

Hobo Rutger's funniest line for me was his completely straight delivery of "It's all I know". Some of the other nonsense they had him mumble made me laugh too.

 

Have to say though, as much as I love the guy, there was never anything about RH's previous work that screamed "his big attention getting comeback role must be that of a crazy hobo". So I do wonder if before settling on him, they tried to get other actors who would have been a better fit- couldn't afford Nolte? Was Busey busy?

post #3269 of 6580

Nolte or Busey would have taken the joke too far toward the nose, I think. Besides, Hauer's as haggard as hell in this - his face looks like fucking Canyonlands, USA in every closeup! I wonder if they gave him prosthetic cheeks.

post #3270 of 6580

You're probably right. I dunno, I just would rather have seen someone else do this. Obviously he's done a whole bunch of crap in his career, but I think for a truly special project, something that got people talking about Rutger Hauer again, this was a bit beneath his true talent. I wasn't the biggest fan of the movie and I know I probably mentioned this in the main post release thread, but I think what might have been cool is if instead of making it into this cheap, grisly, tongue in cheek cartoon, it had actually been a very heavy and serious film about a homeless, mentally ill, middle aged Travis Bickle (with the unfortunately wacky title "Hobo with a Shotgun").

post #3271 of 6580

I don't need Hobo with a Shotgun treated seriously. I really liked it too, more than most of the people I've talked to. All that bear stuff was killer. How about that crazy monologue to the babies?

post #3272 of 6580
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 I think what might have been cool is if instead of making it into this cheap, grisly, tongue in cheek cartoon, it had actually been a very heavy and serious film about a homeless, mentally ill, middle aged Travis Bickle (with the unfortunately wacky title "Hobo with a Shotgun").



No offense dude but Jesus Christ no.

post #3273 of 6580

Jesus Christ, YES.

 

You guys just don't have my vision. But one day you'll see. One day you'll all see

post #3274 of 6580

I'm watching two movies mentioned in NOT QUITE HOLLYWOOD tonite: DARK AGE and NEXT OF KIN. Excited.

post #3275 of 6580

I've been dying to see Dark Age. Are you watching it on VHS?

post #3276 of 6580
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I've been dying to see Dark Age. Are you watching it on VHS?



Whole thing is on Youtube.

 

post #3277 of 6580

 

Re Hobo with a Shotgun... to be serious for a minute, how many here have seen The Horseman? Slightly Not Safe For Work Trailer:

 

 

 

 

I think it could have been cool to see someone taking this approach to a low budget Rutger Hauer vigilante movie. Grim, intense, keep the violence but don't play it for laughs. And don't make it another fucking tongue in cheek phony grindhouse movie. Make it the real, hard stuff.

post #3278 of 6580

YES, I can second that movie. How more people don't know about this is crazy. The fight scenes are specifically well done and realistic. This guy uses anything and everything in his brawls. 

post #3279 of 6580

It's also on Netflix Instant Watch, so that should make it easier to check out.

post #3280 of 6580
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Originally Posted by Mattioli View Post

Caught up with YellowBrickRoad and definitely cannot recommend it.  On the one hand, the film does a decent job of establishing a decently nightmarish, dreamlike world as our heroes proceed up the trail.  On the other, however, this works against the film because there's no internal consistency or rules regarding the trail's effects on our heroes.  While I'm not the type of person who needs every last detail explained, YellowBrickRoad would have benefited immensely from some little explanation.  Is there a UFO at the end of the trail?  Is it a portal to hell?  Did they all drop acid at the trail's head?  I.  Don't.  Know.  And I kinda suspect the writers don't either.

 

Here's the best way to describe it: you know those nightmarish scenes from Blair Witch Project 2: Book of Shadows?  The scenes where the characters are out in the woods, getting drunk and cavorting about with occasional spurts of violence?  Okay, now extend those scenes for an hour and a half.  That's basically YellowBrickRoad.


That movie pissed me off. Even more so because it was a very intriguing set up. If there is one thing a horror movie (especially a low budget horror movie) can't withstand it is a pretension. The ending of that film felt like something I would've seen in film school.


And I def agree that this Bloody Disgusting/AMC thing isn't working out great so far. I think it is very, very cool that they're doing it, and AMC will always get at least some love from me in the future for giving it a try, but man, the films Bloody Disgusting is selecting are really disappointing. So far RAMMBOCK has been the best, and that movie is decidedly mediocre.

 

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Just when I thought Hobo had played itself out, it takes that glorious left turn with "The Plague". Fucking spear-gun nooses. And that shit in the dungeon with the tentacle thing. Fucking amazing.


The Clive Barker one? It's legit?

 

post #3281 of 6580
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That movie pissed me off. Even more so because it was a very intriguing set up. If there is one thing a horror movie (especially a low budget horror movie) can't withstand it is a pretension. The ending of that film felt like something I would've seen in film school.

 

Ha.  Although I didn't bother to listen to the commentary, the writers and director apparently confirm your suspicions on it.  From what I've read, they spend the entire film congratulating themselves for how successfully they managed to convey their story onto the big screen.  Ugh.  If that's accurate, I'm not sure whether to laugh or shake my head in disgust.  Oh, and apparently they firmly state the Yellowbrickroad trail [spoiler]represents life and the characters' descents into hell[/spoiler].   So, dig on that poorly conveyed cliche.
 

 

post #3282 of 6580

Groan.

 

The main blonde chick in it is a waitress at my local wateringhole, and I have to constantly fight the urge (while boozed up) to talk with her about the film. Because I know I won't have anything positive to say, and I also know there is nothing less awesome as an actor than starring in a film and then immediately going back to your shit service job.

post #3283 of 6580
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Have to say though, as much as I love the guy, there was never anything about RH's previous work that screamed "his big attention getting comeback role must be that of a crazy hobo". So I do wonder if before settling on him, they tried to get other actors who would have been a better fit


The director told Rue Morgue his first choice was Stephen McHattie. The producers I guess told him to think bigger.

 

McHattie would've crushed it as well. Dig him a lot, especially after Pontypool, A History of Violence and Watchmen.

 

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And I def agree that this Bloody Disgusting/AMC thing isn't working out great so far. I think it is very, very cool that they're doing it, and AMC will always get at least some love from me in the future for giving it a try, but man, the films Bloody Disgusting is selecting are really disappointing. So far RAMMBOCK has been the best, and that movie is decidedly mediocre.


Oh, I didn't realize that the movies they picked were all from mediocre to worse. I just presumed that one of them would have been halfway decent. Again, I'm glad I missed out on almost all of them then.

 

However, I do have to ask about The Woman, which is a movie that they're going to put out on the big screen in October. It sounds like a rather twisted movie (it involves a feral woman who meets up with a normal family) and I wonder if that is any good or not.

 

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The main blonde chick in it is a waitress at my local wateringhole, and I have to constantly fight the urge (while boozed up) to talk with her about the film. Because I know I won't have anything positive to say, and I also know there is nothing less awesome as an actor than starring in a film and then immediately going back to your shit service job.

 

Tremendous. I feel bad that she still has to waitress in order to pay the bills, but alas. It's probably for the best that you're showing restraint there.

 

Today I went to a local MovieStop (where you can pick up a wide variety of movies, most of them used, and all of them for nice prices) and I picked up a trio of French horror movies from the past few years. I didn't really care for how Martyrs turned out but I will still give the three a chance:

 

Inside

High Tension

Frontier(s)

 

I do know that all three are rather graphic, and of course I know about the awful ending to the Aja movie. I hope to enjoy it before that ending.

post #3285 of 6580

Inside is great and so is High Tension.  I really don't understand all the hate for the latter's ending.  I think everyone was just pissed off that it was a straightforward badass slasher flick in the end.  I honestly don't have a problem with the ending.  The film is really about sexual repression shown from the POV of an unreliable protagonist............at least that's how I took it.

 

I haven't seen Frontier(s), but have read good things for the most part.

post #3286 of 6580

Well, from my perspective, it essentially meant that not only were the preceding hour and fifteen not only bullshit, but physically impossible. So what we were watching was less a delusion than completely unrelated nonsense. I mean, I haven't seen it since it came out (because I didn't like it), so I can't speak to it's thematics, but what I recall was very Dean Koontz-y. Even something like Identity hangs together with more grace.

post #3287 of 6580
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The director told Rue Morgue his first choice was Stephen McHattie. The producers I guess told him to think bigger.

 

McHattie would've crushed it as well. Dig him a lot, especially after Pontypool, A History of Violence and Watchmen.

 

McHattie is the missing link between Hauer and Lance H. True story.
 

 

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McHattie is the missing link between Hauer and Lance H. True story.
 

 

 

I would watch ANY movie where Hauer, McHattie, and Henriksen played brothers.
 

 

post #3289 of 6580

Late Pass Part Deux: I'm watching the late 80's cult classic PUPPET MASTER. Barbara Crampton cameo aside, not overly impressed so far.

post #3290 of 6580

I really enjoyed the first three Puppet Master films.  I haven't bothered to check out the rest of them yet, outside of watching a bit of Puppet Master vs. Demonic Toys on TV back in the day.

post #3291 of 6580

Has anyone around here seen the Malevolence prequel, Bereavement?


Edited by S.D. Bob Plissken - 8/27/11 at 5:45pm
post #3292 of 6580
Belated sidenote: THE WOMAN is pretty great. Definitely worth supporting in any theatrical release.
post #3293 of 6580

Did anyone besides me and Disciple watch or DVR THE HANDS OF ORLAC the other night on Turner?

post #3294 of 6580

Yeah, Sebastian OB and I just watched THE WOMAN. Really enjoyed it. It is a movie I would recommend reading as little about as possible. We knew nothing about it other than its minor Sundance 'scandalous' buzz, and half the fun was seeing where the story went.

post #3295 of 6580
The Woman is indeed made of awesome.

Hauer, McHattie and Henriksen in "The Surly Brothers." They just sit on a porch going "Fuck you." "Fuck YOU" for the whole movie. I would see this and so would all of you.
post #3296 of 6580

Fun fact: THE WOMAN is a sequel to 2009's OFFSPRING, and in fact, "The Woman" is indeed in that film. Who knew?

post #3297 of 6580

I finally watched I Spit On Your Grave and I was not impressed.  I'm kinda tempted to check out the remake to see if it is actually a decent movie.

 

Anyway, I ask again..............has anyone seen Bereavement?  I'm considering blind buying it.

post #3298 of 6580
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PLAGUERS starring Steve Railsback is on deck next and it can only go uphill from here.

Miles better than MUTANTS, but that's no small feat. A "throwback" to the DTV ALIEN-ripoffs of the 90s (LETHAL TARGET, LEGION, etc). E for effort in the goo and set departments, but the direction's fairly lifeless and the acting is abysmal. If you like Fred Olan Ray flicks or the worst of New Horizon's output, it's passable and possibly for you. Railsback appears to be drunk or easing into a stroke, so that was entertaining. Be warned: Sub SyFy quality. I can't recommend it really, but if you recognize any of the titles/names I mentioned, you know what to expect.

 

At least it had Mutants, unlike the aforementioned MUTANTS.

 

 

It's no DOOM, that's for sure. Take that for what it's worth.


Edited by DARKMITE8 - 8/29/11 at 3:44pm
post #3299 of 6580

Quick update from London Frightfest for ya:

 

Don't be Afraid of The Dark - Liked it, didnt love it. Seems to be missing something, possibly left on the cutting room floor

 

Troll Hunter: Brilliant, needed to have a bit less of a leisurely pace but a fun watch

 

The Wicker Tree: Awful on almost every level, among the worst films I have ever seen

 

Fright Night 2011: Colour me surprised this was damn good fun

 

The Woman: Previous posters on this thread have given this some acclaim already and everything they have said is true. One of the best films of 2011!!

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The Woman: Previous posters on this thread have given this some acclaim already and everything they have said is true. One of the best films of 2011!!


If this film really is as good as you say, we might be talking the ultimate example of "sequel is better than the original" since Offspring is the only shit Ketchum adaption.

 

Does The Woman have any unintentionally funny scenes of feral kids playing with someone's entrails?

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