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post #1 of 102
7/17/08 at 10:03am
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http://cdn.emmys.tv/awards/2008pte/60thpte_noms.php

No way Entourage should be up for Outstanding Comedy Series.
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post #2 of 102
7/17/08 at 10:08am
It just wouldn't be the Emmys without The Wire getting snubbed again.
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post #3 of 102
7/17/08 at 10:11am
Missed it by that much. 30 Rock's sheer domination of the guest actor categories is fun, though.
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post #4 of 102
7/17/08 at 10:11am
Bryan Cranston for Breaking Bad makes me glad.

30 Rock has seven of the eleven 'Outstanding Guest' nominations.
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post #5 of 102
7/17/08 at 10:19am
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Nice to see Galactica get a writing nod, and Pace and Chenoweth getting nominated for Pushing Daisies only reminds me of how much I miss that damn show.
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post #6 of 102
7/17/08 at 10:20am
Pro: Michael Emerson getting nominated for Lost.

Con: "The Constant" getting nominated for music? Really? That's about as much as the nominating committee thought about "The Constant"?
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post #7 of 102
7/17/08 at 10:21am
NPH got a nominated for Best Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series.
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post #8 of 102
7/17/08 at 10:26am
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30 Rock has seven of the eleven 'Outstanding Guest' nominations.
And not one of them is Dean Winters. Anyway, here's what I said in the other thread:

'Damages' (which was an extremely boring show that was admittedly very well acted) over 'The Wire.' Zero acting nominations. Color me, and the rest of the internet, thoroughly unsurprised.

There's some good stuff in there, though, like Mad Men's multiple noms and the supporting comedy actor awards, like Poehler and the NPH. Also, Cranston, Hunter, and Parker, and in the guest awards, Morse. And let's just all admit to ourselves that Lead Actor - Comedy is Baldwin's to lose.
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post #9 of 102
7/17/08 at 10:28am
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As is Giamatti's award for John Adams.
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post #10 of 102
7/17/08 at 10:29am
I realize it was a pipe-dream, but it would have been great to see Jeremy Sisto get a nod for Law & Order. Ditto with Sam Waterston.

The flagship hasn't been this solid since the late 90s. So a "Best Drama" nod would have been fitting imo albeit I never really expected it to get one...
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post #11 of 102
7/17/08 at 10:34am
Outstanding Supporting Actor In A Miniseries Or A Movie
John Adams • HBO • Playtone in association with HBO Films
David Morse as George Washington
John Adams • HBO • Playtone in association with HBO Films
Stephen Dillane as Thomas Jefferson
John Adams • HBO • Playtone in association with HBO Films
Tom Wilkinson as Benjamin Franklin

Those are killing me. I want them all to win. But Dillane was the best.
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post #12 of 102
7/17/08 at 10:35am
Also, I could complain Friday Night Lights, but it wasn't as good as last season, although it wasn't as horrible as some people made it out to be. And as the one who did deserve a nomination, Britton's play to be recognized as a supporting actress was not necessarily the smartest move because the supporting categories are generally stacked to the gills with worthy contenders. So I'm not too upset about that one.
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post #13 of 102
7/17/08 at 10:58am
Thrilled for John Adams, but *scans list for The Wire* yup, still bullshit.
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post #14 of 102
7/17/08 at 11:03am
No FNL is bad, but no Wire is bullshit.

I don't know why exactly the Emmies make the Oscars seem like geniuses, but they do. Television criticism has a long way to go.
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post #15 of 102
7/17/08 at 11:17am
30 Rock laying waste to all comers in the guest actor/actress categories is nothing short of sweet. I called Dean Winters being overlooked back in the predictions, but I'm shocked that Matthew Broderick wasn't nominated for Cooter. I figured he was a shoe in. Will Arnett getting a spot though soothes that pain right up though. Tim Conway will take it.

A shame about The Wire, although that wound already has calluses building over it.
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post #16 of 102
7/17/08 at 11:20am
I was reading something on Gold Derby that said the blue-ribbon panel responded really negatively to 'The Wire', which chose "--30--" as their submitted episode. Apparently, the episode screened at the end of the day and people were irritated that it was so long.
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post #17 of 102
7/17/08 at 11:21am
The wire was nominated for writing. But very small chances that it gets it.

I can't disagree with the love for Mad Men and Pushing Daisies though.
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post #18 of 102
7/17/08 at 11:26am
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Originally Posted by RathBandu View Post
I was reading something on Gold Derby that said the blue-ribbon panel responded really negatively to 'The Wire', which chose "--30--" as their submitted episode. Apparently, the episode screened at the end of the day and people were irritated that it was so long.
Well, it is a 90 minute series finale to a show that most of them probably never watched. I like to think that Simon knew this and chose the longest episode as a way of saying "Fuck You".
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post #19 of 102
7/17/08 at 11:35am
Also, 'The Wire' frequently had all the big moments in the next-to-last episode rather than the season finale. Andre Royo's big speech was in that one, I think.
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post #20 of 102
7/17/08 at 11:54am
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Tim Conway will take it.
"Who is Conan O'Brien, and why is she so sad?"

"...just two men, celebrating each other's strength." <salutes>

I'm hoping Arnett gets the nod, but I think you're right about Conway.
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post #21 of 102
7/17/08 at 11:57am
Boston Legal again? This season much like last seaon was pretty terrible. I can't believe that it's constantly getting the nominations. Same can be said about Entourage.

All of the 30 Rock noms do put a smile on my face and I agree with Chris that Matthew Brodrick should have gotten a nomination.

Damages was great and I'm glad to see it up for the big stuff.

I was upset with the lack of nominations for The Wire for S4 so somehow I'm not surprised that Simon and crew get no respect once again. But Goddamn Boston Legal gets it again! It's hard to make sense of that.
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post #22 of 102
7/17/08 at 12:07pm
That Wire story Rath mentioned is depressing, but not surprising.

Boston Legal hits that "liberal soapbox" sweet spot that Academy voters love.

I found Damages painfully dull, but I'm glad to see Lost nominated again. I just added Mad Men to my netflix queue . . . Methinks it's time to catch up.
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post #23 of 102
7/17/08 at 12:13pm
Having just finished up Mad Men last night, I find the nominations to be incredibly gratifying. Especially cool to see Don Draper's boss up for Supporting. The ep where he hits on Draper's wife was classic. The revenge Draper takes on him is an all-time greatest TV moment, in my book.

I'm actually considering getting cable just to see this series unsullied by spoilers.
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post #24 of 102
7/17/08 at 12:14pm
I'm a bit surprised to see Poheler get nominated for SNL. Not because she doesn't deserve it...really she's the best on the show. But I don't think I've ever seen SNL get a nom in one of the "regular" catagories.

And here's for a massive 30 Rock sweep.
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post #25 of 102
7/17/08 at 12:26pm
Adams will win a bucket of awards and rightly so. Still not surprised Wire gets fucked over. As always, fuck the emmys.
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post #26 of 102
7/17/08 at 12:26pm
This is the first time performers on SNL were elligible for the main nominations. That's why.

The revenge episode of Mad Men was great, but I think if I had to pick an "all-time" moment from that show, it would be the resolution in Cooper's office in the election episode. Or Draper's speeches on love in the pilot and nostalgia in the finale. (And the one where he tells those guys to fuck off because they've obviously made up their minds and it's a waste of his time.)

But things like that are a little too soon to speculate on.

Also, 30 Rock broke some kind of record as most-nominated comedy series ever for a single Emmys.
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post #27 of 102
7/17/08 at 12:38pm
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Originally Posted by RathBandu View Post
This is the first time performers on SNL were elligible for the main nominations. That's why.

The revenge episode of Mad Men was great, but I think if I had to pick an "all-time" moment from that show, it would be the resolution in Cooper's office in the election episode. Or Draper's speeches on love in the pilot and nostalgia in the finale. (And the one where he tells those guys to fuck off because they've obviously made up their minds and it's a waste of his time.)

But things like that are a little too soon to speculate on.

Also, 30 Rock broke some kind of record as most-nominated comedy series ever for a single Emmys.
I was highlighting that particular moment to point out how good John Slattery was. I wholeheartedly agree that the carousel scene outranks it, but the sly wit on display in the oyster ep is top-notch as well.
ETA: deleted last line, which sounded snarky
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post #28 of 102
7/17/08 at 12:44pm
I'm thoroughly underqualified to comment in this thread, but I'm really glad (though not surprised) to see the John Adams nods. I agree that Dillane is the strongest of the supporting actors. His IMDB entry is pretty long, but I can't remember ever noticing him in anything before (though I've seen at least one or two films he's been in).

Also nice to see Rainn Wilson get a nod, but it would have been nice to see Fisher or Krasinsky get them, as well - it's become much less of a Carrell showcase and more of an ensemble show over the last few years.

Emerson's nomination makes me very happy.

I really need to catch up on Mad Men, Weeds, and the Wire.
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post #29 of 102
7/17/08 at 12:48pm
Boston Legal gets nominated because the voters only watch one episode, so a VERY uneven show like BL can coast in on the strength of one good hour (and its Supreme Court episode was admittedly quite good). This ignores the fact that about 50% of BL's episodes this season were AWFUL (and I tend to like the show). So "Best Drama" really means "Best Stand-Alone Episode".

The Wire gets snubbed every year for the same reason. If you don't watch the show, a single episode isn't going to mean much to you.

This begs the question: If Emmy voters can't be bothered to watch THE FUCKING WIRE, they obviously don't like good TV, so why are they even voting at all, and why does anyone give a shit what they think?

Other than fleeting amusement at their stupidity, I have little use for the Emmys. The highlight of recent years for me was James Spader's embarassed acceptance where he essentially admitted he wouldn't have even voted for himself.

So let's all have a good laugh at their expense while criticizing actress' apparel. Personally, I'm hoping Boston Legal wins everything!
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post #30 of 102
7/17/08 at 1:05pm
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Originally Posted by RathBandu View Post
This is the first time performers on SNL were elligible for the main nominations. That's why.
Yeah, it's long been put in the Variety categories.
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post #31 of 102
7/17/08 at 1:26pm
The only good thing that shows up in The Emmy's every year is the way the nominees for best writting on a comedy or variety show present their staff. And it's always the same nominees every year but I remember one that featured writers of the Letterman show as the 52 Iraqi most wanted playing cards and another in which random bodies were being thrown in the back of garbage truck only to have Tony Soprano show up at the end to drive the truck.
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post #32 of 102
7/17/08 at 1:30pm
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I'm thoroughly underqualified to comment in this thread, but I'm really glad (though not surprised) to see the John Adams nods. I agree that Dillane is the strongest of the supporting actors. His IMDB entry is pretty long, but I can't remember ever noticing him in anything before (though I've seen at least one or two films he's been in).
I just want to second this. Dillane owns damn near every scene he's in. Personal favorite? When Franklin and Adams are reading over the Declaration for the first time. I'm not sure if Dillane meant to mine it for laughs, but I thought his performance that scene was understated and absolutely charming.

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Also nice to see Rainn Wilson get a nod, but it would have been nice to see Fisher or Krasinsky get them, as well - it's become much less of a Carrell showcase and more of an ensemble show over the last few years.
::dons Office nerd cap::

Problem is, really, that Krasinski should have been nominated for seasons 2 and 3, particularly season 2, in which he just kills me. He wasn't nearly as strong this season, and neither was Fischer, because they didn't have as much to work with. Giving it to Wilson was spot-on, though, what with the fallout from Dwight's break-up with Angela. He did a great job with that.

::removes Office nerd cap::

Yay for 30 Rock. Conway'll take it, but Arnett really should. They deserve every last naked gold lady they win.

edit - Oh! I almost forgot - Two and a Half Men can suck it.
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post #33 of 102
7/17/08 at 1:35pm
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I just want to second this. Dillane owns damn near every scene he's in. Personal favorite? When Franklin and Adams are reading over the Declaration for the first time. I'm not sure if Dillane meant to mine it for laughs, but I thought his performance that scene was understated and absolutely charming.
I love it when they go through the document, and he says something to the effect of, "Well, that's what I believe, anyway." Morse and Wilkinson were very good as well, but Dillane's performance was exceptional.

I've liked the episodes of The Office that I've seen, but I think it's a bit overrated, possibly because I can't stand Rainn Wilson.
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post #34 of 102
7/17/08 at 1:37pm
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edit - Oh! I almost forgot - Two and a Half Men can suck it.
Agreed, let's bitch less about Entourage and bitch more about Two and a Half Men.
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post #35 of 102
7/17/08 at 2:39pm
I've become resigned to the fact that Two and a Half Men will always get an Emmy nomination. Chalk it up to nostalgia for the golden era of sitcoms, I guess.

Is it wrong to be surprised at House's nomination for Outstanding Drama Series? I liked this season, but I didn't see anything special about it (other than the new supporting cast and the glorious lack of Cameron and Chase).
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post #36 of 102
7/17/08 at 2:46pm
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Given the fact that even re-runs of Two and a Half Men are fixtures in the top ten, I'm not surprised it's a hit with Emmy voters.
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post #37 of 102
7/17/08 at 3:00pm
How I Met Your Mother should have gotten more than an acting nomination.
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post #38 of 102
7/17/08 at 3:12pm
"The Wire" getting overlooked was expected but not shocking and still nonetheless appalling.

However, what is shocking, is how the nominating committee managed to do something none of the "John Adams" related comments above did, which was to not completely disregard the wonderful work of Laura Linney in that miniseries.
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post #39 of 102
7/17/08 at 3:18pm
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"The Wire" getting overlooked was expected but not shocking and still nonetheless appalling.

However, what is shocking, is how the nominating committee managed to do something none of the "John Adams" related comments above did, which was to not completely disregard the wonderful work of Laura Linney in that miniseries.
No one's talking specifically about her for the same reason that they're not dwelling on Giamatti - they were expected, there's little to dispute, and they're almost guaranteed to win.
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post #40 of 102
7/17/08 at 3:23pm
Laura Linney was awesome in John Adams, Pyewacket.

Better?
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post #41 of 102
7/17/08 at 3:39pm
Yay for America Ferrera, but I think Tina Fey might take it this year.
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post #42 of 102
7/17/08 at 4:14pm
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No one's talking specifically about her for the same reason that they're not dwelling on Giamatti - they were expected, there's little to dispute, and they're almost guaranteed to win.
In fact, Giamatti was mentioned above as was every nominated character but not the one played by Laura Linney. I just thought it was 'interesting' that she was the only one not worthy of mention, hence my post.

Respectfully, aside from the sad spell of hypnosis cast by Denny Crane and "Boston Legal", I don't think anyone is guaranteed anything with these voters.
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post #43 of 102
7/17/08 at 4:26pm
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Laura Linney was awesome in John Adams, Pyewacket.

Better?
You know the old saying, the couple that responds together...

Sorry to have brought out your snippy side this afternoon, but yes, better.
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post #44 of 102
7/17/08 at 4:28pm
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You know the old saying, the couple that responds together...
Yeah, we have kind of a weird, jinxy habit. I didn't see his post before I responded to yours. Apologies for the mini-pile-on.
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post #45 of 102
7/17/08 at 4:35pm
Do they award Outstanding Original Music and Lyrics on the main show? Because I love to see how the presenter handles "I'm Fucking Matt Damon".
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post #46 of 102
7/18/08 at 11:16am
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Do they award Outstanding Original Music and Lyrics on the main show? Because I love to see how the presenter handles "I'm Fucking Matt Damon".
Especially since Kimmel and Silverman broke up, I would love to see her acceptence speech.
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post #47 of 102
7/18/08 at 7:17pm
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Is it wrong to be surprised at House's nomination for Outstanding Drama Series? I liked this season, but I didn't see anything special about it
Cuddy. Dancing. School girl outfit.
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post #48 of 102
9/21/08 at 7:26pm
Soooo
Anyone watching tonight?

I just want Mad Men to sweep. If they can't recognize The Wire as the best show, at least give it to the second best.
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post #49 of 102
9/21/08 at 7:31pm
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If they can't recognize The Wire as the best show, at least give it to the second best.
Lost should get it.
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post #50 of 102
9/21/08 at 8:07pm
My predictions for the night if the voters had brains in their heads.

Drama Series: LOST
Comedy Series: 30 ROCK
Mini-Series: JOHN ADAMS
Lead Actor, Drama: HUGH LAURIE
Lead Actor, Comedy: ALEC BALDWIN
Lead Actress, Drama: GLENN CLOSE
Lead Actress, Comedy: TINA FEY
Supporting Actor, Drama: MICHAEL EMERSON
Supporting Actor, Comedy: NEIL PATRICK HARRIS
Supporting Actress, Drama: DIANNE WIEST
Supporting Actress, Comedy: AMY POEHLER

And the nightmare results!

Drama Series: DAMAGES
Comedy Series: TWO AND A HALF MEN
Mini-Series: THE ANDROMEDA STRAIN
Lead Actor, Drama: JAMES SPADER
Lead Actor, Comedy: CHARLIE SHEEN
Lead Actress, Drama: SALLY FIELD
Lead Actress, Comedy: MARY-LOUISE PARKER
Supporting Actor, Drama: WILLIAM SHATNER
Supporting Actor, Comedy: KEVIN DILLON
Supporting Actress, Drama: CANDICE BERGEN
Supporting Actress, Comedy: HOLLAND TAYLOR

I'm putting my money on the nightmare ballot.
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