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post #51 of 126
7/24/08 at 12:38pm
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Originally Posted by Jcassady View Post
More gay than Nightmare on Elm Street 2.
This is scientifically impossible. Nightmare on Elm Street 2 represents the terminal velocity of gayness possible on film without the actual depiction of male-on-male orifice penetration.
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post #52 of 126
7/24/08 at 12:40pm
Just found this thread. Little green boxes to all involved.
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post #53 of 126
7/24/08 at 12:43pm
Meg Ryan is kind of smokin' in this though, so that takes a bit of the gay edge off.
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post #54 of 126
7/24/08 at 12:44pm
Pretty much every really hot girl I know has a gay friend or two. She's just the ultimate fag hag going along with their lifestyle and having fun.
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post #55 of 126
7/24/08 at 12:58pm
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Originally Posted by Overlord View Post
Top Gun is really gay. But not that gay.
Top Gun is gayer than Elton John skipping rope.

And I fucking love it for that. Oh the fun I've had discussing it with various unsuspecting victims.

Edit: As I was submitting this Take My Breath Away was playing in a radio advert.
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post #56 of 126
7/24/08 at 1:02pm
I imagine Stelios was typing out his post very very slowly.
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post #57 of 126
7/24/08 at 1:04pm
At the risk of making myself a target for much hatred, there's a fair bit of homoeroticism in PREDATOR. That first helicopter ride into the jungle, with Blain shooting tobacco juice onto Dillon's boot and declaring himself "a goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus" and Poncho inviting Blain to strap a mightily phallic rifle onto said "sore ass", is like a Frisco bathhouse. And the bickering between Dutch and Dillon - why, they're like an old married couple. Don't even get me started on the way Mac eulogises Blain.

Don't get me wrong, I love PREDATOR the way Shane Black loves pussy jokes (and boy, is he overcompensating). But it's a bit gay on occasion. Gay as TOP GUN? That's open to debate. But it's certainly on a queer par with REIGN OF FIRE.
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post #58 of 126
7/24/08 at 1:17pm
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
I imagine Stelios was typing out his post very very slowly.
Yup. Also shirtless and oiled.
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post #59 of 126
7/24/08 at 1:29pm
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
Top Gun features one of the great WTF? scenes. I'm referring to the Ice Man "Bite" scene.
I need a gif of this awesome maneuver STAT!
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post #60 of 126
7/24/08 at 1:34pm
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I need a gif of this awesome maneuver STAT!
About 1:15 in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekXxi...eature=related
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post #61 of 126
7/24/08 at 1:39pm
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
I need a gif of this awesome maneuver STAT!
The next best thing.
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post #62 of 126
7/24/08 at 1:59pm
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Originally Posted by Ali View Post
18. This.
A tale of woe:

Walking back from a night out a few years me and a friend bumped into this lovely pair of strumpets. A few beers and aftershocks later we managed to finagle our way back to their place. The pretty one I was chatting to kept going on about how much of a film geek she is. Perfick she was.

Anyway, back at theirs me and my strumpet were fooling around on her bed when she suggested putting on a DVD. I said 'lady's choice', and one was popped in (the only thing that got popped in that night). As soon as I had twigged onto the fact it was Top gun she chose I went on a manly and deeply straight rant similar to that Tarantino monologue.

30 seconds later me and my buddy were stood on their porch, totally lost, walking home alone.

I now hate top Gun.
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post #63 of 126
7/24/08 at 2:02pm
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Originally Posted by Paul Allen View Post
'lady's choice'
I believe you went wrong right about here, unless said lady was Diva, LisaNY, etc.
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post #64 of 126
7/24/08 at 2:04pm
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Originally Posted by stelios View Post
Ohnoyoudidn't.
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post #65 of 126
7/24/08 at 2:08pm
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Originally Posted by Paul Allen View Post
A tale of woe:

Walking back from a night out a few years me and a friend bumped into this lovely pair of strumpets. A few beers and aftershocks later we managed to finagle our way back to their place. The pretty one I was chatting to kept going on about how much of a film geek she is. Perfick she was.

Anyway, back at theirs me and my strumpet were fooling around on her bed when she suggested putting on a DVD. I said 'lady's choice', and one was popped in (the only thing that got popped in that night). As soon as I had twigged onto the fact it was Top gun she chose I went on a manly and deeply straight rant similar to that Tarantino monologue.

30 seconds later me and my buddy were stood on their porch, totally lost, walking home alone.

I now hate top Gun.
Dude. You could have been riding HER tail, possibly in the Danger Zone. Instead, you were left playing with the boys.

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Originally Posted by Jcassady View Post
More gay than Nightmare on Elm Street 2.
Nightmare on Elm Street 2 is gayer than lemonparty.org.
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post #66 of 126
7/24/08 at 2:09pm
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Originally Posted by Paul Allen View Post
I now hate top Gun.
So, did you finish watching the movie?
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post #67 of 126
7/24/08 at 2:10pm
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Originally Posted by stelios View Post
Oh the fun I've had discussing it with various unsuspecting victims.
Bingo. This may be my favorite part of the Top Gun Experience (TM).

There are people, lots and lots of people, who have no idea this movie smells like lavender. No concept, no clue. They think it's all sweat and guns and machismo. And telling them all about it is one of the unsung joys of movie conversation-dom. They don't believe you at first, then they disagree with you, then they argue against you, then when they realize what evidence they're up against they get pissed off, then they finally resign themselves to realizing their all-time favorite movie is a fist-fuck away from adopting a Chinese baby.

It's a-mazing.
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post #68 of 126
7/24/08 at 2:10pm
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Originally Posted by Big Jim Slade View Post
Dude. You could have been riding HER tail, possibly in the Danger Zone. Instead, you were left playing with the boys.
Classic!
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post #69 of 126
7/24/08 at 2:16pm
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Originally Posted by Big Jim Slade View Post
Dude. You could have been riding HER tail, possibly in the Danger Zone. Instead, you were left playing with the boys.
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post #70 of 126
7/24/08 at 2:19pm
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
Ohnoyoudidn't.
OhyesIdid!
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post #71 of 126
7/24/08 at 7:30pm
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Banks is my hero View Post
Also, Maverick shouts, "Watch the canopy!" Like, what the fuck is Goose supposed to do about that shit?
Obviously a question for Cobretti, but since he's not here I'll say that I always thought the canopy fires off and then the pilot and co-pilot have to manually punch out. So if you (a) panic and eject too soon or (b) are a big Lurch like Goose, you end up making out with a sheet of plexiglass at 500 mph.

Also, Top Gun is so much gayer than Nightmare on Elm Street 2.
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post #72 of 126
7/24/08 at 7:57pm
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Originally Posted by stelios View Post
OhyesIdid!
Oh Snap!
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post #73 of 126
7/24/08 at 8:02pm
I hadn't seen Top Gun in a few years a while back, and was trying to explain to him the gayness, but he kind of thought I was pulling his leg. So we sat down with a case of beer and agreed to drink whenever something homoerotic happened. When the volleyball scene came around we couldn't keep up and pretty much had to go frame-by-frame (we drank an extra +3 or so on the still of Slider flexing his greasiness). I believe we were on the last beer in the case when the credits rolled.

Seriously, it's gay.
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post #74 of 126
7/24/08 at 8:07pm
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Originally Posted by BrianM View Post
Obviously a question for Cobretti, but since he's not here I'll say that I always thought the canopy fires off and then the pilot and co-pilot have to manually punch out. So if you (a) panic and eject too soon or (b) are a big Lurch like Goose, you end up making out with a sheet of plexiglass at 500 mph.
The way it's shot in the movie, it's one function that both blows the canopy (huh huh, huh huh) and ejects the seats. I think Goose pulls the cords and both happen, with a small lag between the two.

But yeah, many questions in here for Marion Cobretti's brother to answer. Where are you, Frank?
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post #75 of 126
7/24/08 at 8:12pm
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Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post
I hadn't seen Top Gun in a few years a while back, and was trying to explain to him the gayness, but he kind of thought I was pulling his leg. So we sat down with a case of beer and agreed to drink whenever something homoerotic happened.
Can't spell gayness without anus.
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post #76 of 126
7/24/08 at 8:41pm
[quote=Schwartz;2301940]I hadn't seen Top Gun in a few years a while back, and was trying to explain to him the gayness, but he kind of thought I was pulling his leg. So we sat down with a case of beer and agreed to drink whenever something homoerotic happened. When the volleyball scene came around we couldn't keep up and pretty much had to go frame-by-frame (we drank an extra +3 or so on the still of Slider flexing his greasiness). I believe we were on the last beer in the case when the credits rolled. [quote]

And then?????
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post #77 of 126
7/24/08 at 9:10pm
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Banks is my hero View Post
...they finally resign themselves to realizing their all-time favorite movie is a fist-fuck away from adopting a Chinese baby.
Kudos for that sentence.


I haven't seen it in ages, so could someone here tell my why Nightmare 2 is considered to be so gay? I don't remember a thing about it.
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post #78 of 126
7/24/08 at 10:45pm
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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer View Post
Kudos for that sentence.


I haven't seen it in ages, so could someone here tell my why Nightmare 2 is considered to be so gay? I don't remember a thing about it.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3-M_s2Q9k0M
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post #79 of 126
7/24/08 at 11:11pm
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
Edwards was great but I remember my dad saying he was way too tall to be an actual fighter pilot.
You don't get to see them side by side, by seeing Tim "Wookie height" Robbins walking behind Tom Cruise is a big "WTF?" moment for anyone who really knows anything about the military.

Basically, as I understand it, cockpits are designed to fit the most men possible. So they're set up for guys of average height, which is what, 5'9"? Anyone who has too much of a variation either way just isn't going to be effective, if they fit at all. Most if not all the Mercury/Apollo astronauts, who were test pilots beforehand, were about 5'8"-5'9".

F-1 and Indy car drivers tend to be midgets for the same reason.
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post #80 of 126
7/24/08 at 11:12pm
Oh, um - if you REALLY want Cobretti's input here, you could always drop a PM his way....
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post #81 of 126
7/24/08 at 11:35pm
Top Gun is not gay. Nothing in Top Gun is gay. And I am not gay for getting hard ons when I watch Top Gun...which isn't gay.
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post #82 of 126
7/24/08 at 11:40pm
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Originally Posted by Chavez View Post

Basically, as I understand it, cockpits are designed to fit the most men possible. So they're set up for guys of average height, which is what, 5'9"? Anyone who has too much of a variation either way just isn't going to be effective, if they fit at all. Most if not all the Mercury/Apollo astronauts, who were test pilots beforehand, were about 5'8"-5'9".
Last time I went to an airshow... some time in the mid 90's I guess... I asked an air force pilot if there were any fighter planes I could actually fly. He said I might actually be able to wedge my 6'9" frame into an A-10 Warthog cockpit, but it would be a tight fit. According to him, the height cap for fighter jets like the F-15 and F-16 was 6'2" if I remember correctly. Navy policies may differ, but I can't see them being too wide of that mark.
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post #83 of 126
7/25/08 at 10:14am
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Originally Posted by Chavez View Post
Oh, um - if you REALLY want Cobretti's input here, you could always drop a PM his way....
Or I could e-mail him. I just don't want to deprive the thread of his insight (not a joke; the man is a walking encyclopedia of cool shit).
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post #84 of 126
7/25/08 at 10:40am
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Banks is my hero View Post
Or I could e-mail him. I just don't want to deprive the thread of his insight (not a joke; the man is a walking encyclopedia of cool shit).
And he could share with us a few of his beach volleyball stories.
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post #85 of 126
7/25/08 at 10:55am
The two polarities of why Im a chewer for life - this thread paralleled with the Watchmen pre-release thread.

Jonathan banks Is My Hero IS MY HERO.
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post #86 of 126
7/25/08 at 1:09pm
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Originally Posted by BrianM View Post

And then?????
I got up to put on some Otis Redding to set the mood, but he suddenly decided that he had to take a shower. I woke up an hour later to find him in the shower, lying in his own vomit.
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post #87 of 126
7/25/08 at 8:31pm
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Originally Posted by Big Jim Slade View Post
Dude. You could have been riding HER tail, possibly in the Danger Zone. Instead, you were left playing with the boys.
This thread is wonderful. THIS, is wonderful. I must have it for my sig!
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post #88 of 126
7/26/08 at 8:05pm
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
I had the same question, not having seen the movie since I was a kid. Oh man, was the acting deliberate on his part?

Did the director say to him; "Look here Jesse, I need you act as effeminate as possible"
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post #89 of 126
7/26/08 at 9:38pm
The problem with FIRE BIRDS (also known as WINGS OF THE APACHE!), why it pales in comparison to TOP GUN, could be the lack of a so-called "gay" subtext.

(Or just needed more volleyball)
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post #90 of 126
7/26/08 at 10:22pm
I just saw that youtube footage. Yeah, pretty goddamn gay.
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post #91 of 126
7/26/08 at 10:40pm
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The problem with FIRE BIRDS (also known as WINGS OF THE APACHE!), why it pales in comparison to TOP GUN, could be the lack of a so-called "gay" subtext.
There actually was a whole bunch of it, but Tommy Lee Jones raped it out of the script.

So I'm trying to decide if THE LOST BOYS fits this whole category of 80's movies that subtextually nearly made me a raging queen.

You know, I think it does.

Nevermind the whole issue of vampirism, but you've got the way much of the film involves Kiefer Sutherland's seduction of Jason Patric. "Miiiichael, Miiiiichael...." The oily saxophonist. This:



Jesus. Corey Haim nearly did for Phoenix what Buffalo Bill did for "Goodbye Horses."
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post #92 of 126
7/26/08 at 10:41pm
Well it is Joel Schumacher. Come on now.
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post #93 of 126
7/26/08 at 10:50pm
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Originally Posted by Boogen View Post
Top Gun is not gay. Nothing in Top Gun is gay. And I am not gay for getting hard ons when I watch Top Gun...which isn't gay.
Yeah, just do like me. Think Michael Ironside alone compensates for all the gayness on display.

The Transporter, however, has sweet & cutie Matt Schulze in it. And we all know how many movies starring Matt Schulze end up being gayer than a Care Bears Christmas Special.
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post #94 of 126
7/29/08 at 1:59pm
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So how exactly does the call sign stuff work? Is it just coincidence that "Maverick" is actually a maverick, that "Ice Man" flies ice cold, no mistakes, that "Goose" is tall with a long neck, that "Sundown" is black, that "Wolfman" is constantly getting hard-ons, etc...?

Do you apply for them? Are they decided by a computer program like match.com? Did Neil Clark Warren start his career with the Navy? Or are names voted on like new sports franchises?
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post #95 of 126
7/29/08 at 2:13pm
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Banks is my hero View Post
So how exactly does the call sign stuff work? Is it just coincidence that "Maverick" is actually a maverick, that "Ice Man" flies ice cold, no mistakes, that "Goose" is tall with a long neck, that "Sundown" is black, that "Wolfman" is constantly getting hard-ons, etc...?

Do you apply for them? Are they decided by a computer program like match.com? Did Neil Clark Warren start his career with the Navy? Or are names voted on like new sports franchises?
Same way they do it at Delta House, I always assumed.
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post #96 of 126
7/29/08 at 2:30pm
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Do you apply for them? Are they decided by a computer program like match.com? Did Neil Clark Warren start his career with the Navy? Or are names voted on like new sports franchises?
You are given a call sign (nickname) first year in training I think. I think the senior students do it. Yet another thing Frank can clarify.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviator_call_sign

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Aviator call signs nearly always must come from a member of the aviator's squadron, training class, or other coworker. It is considered bad form to try to give oneself a callsign. It is common for newer aviators to be initially assigned a fairly derogatory callsign, with the expectation that the new member will work hard enough to earn the respect of their community, and with it a better (and usually permanent) callsign. Some stick with the aviator forever, while in other cases an aviator might have a series of call signs throughout his or her career.
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post #97 of 126
7/29/08 at 2:47pm
You've got to think someguy in the navy or airforce is called Solid Snake. You just know it.
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post #98 of 126
7/29/08 at 2:55pm
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
You've got to think someguy in the navy or airforce is called Solid Snake. You just know it.
I read that as Soiled Snake. Even funnier.
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post #99 of 126
7/29/08 at 3:00pm
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
You've got to think someguy in the navy or airforce is called Solid Snake. You just know it.
http://www.f-16.net/callsigns.html

I didn't see that, but plenty of others.
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post #100 of 126
7/29/08 at 3:10pm
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
You've got to think someguy in the navy or airforce is called Solid Snake. You just know it.
Especially in the Navy.
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