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The Right's Addiction to Negativity

post #1 of 25
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I listen to Hugh Hewitt and other talk radio shows and the one thing that gets to me is how nearly 100% of the content is spent attacking Democrats. That's nothing new but it's amazing how little they talk up their own side. Is this election year the opposite of '04 where Bush garnered most of the attention either positive or negative and Kerry was just sort of there?
post #2 of 25
This is why I pretty much gave up talk radio. Mainly because it's repetetive and boring with the same shit treaded over day after day after day.
post #3 of 25
That's because they're mostly preaching to those who are looking for a reason to not vote for Obama. They realize how bad "their" side has become, but after years of hating the left, their urge to vote for McCain (if at all) is being sorely tested. These blowhards are not speaking to open minded voters. And if in the process of this almost entirely negative campaign, they manage to turn a few false charges into DC conventional wisdom, all the better for them.

Negative campaigning usually works every well. It hasn't been entirely effective so far this election, but if you spin the voters enough, they'll be too dizzy to know which way is up.
post #4 of 25
I must have missed all the Democratic positivity during the Bush years before they had a majority.

They are politicians. All they know how to do is bullshit, and sometimes they aren't even good at that. It's all bullshit, on both sides.
post #5 of 25
Well, I know I sound like a broken record, but Thom Hartmann has changed my view on talk radio. He's smart, articulate, highly educated, and often has conservatives, libertarians and republicans on to civilly debate the issues. If people call who disagree with him, he instructs his staff to put their calls through first. He's clear-eyed but never disparaging. Strong recommend.
post #6 of 25
Negativity works for them. It's worked really, really well. A spineless corporate media helps too. Liberal my ass. The "liberal media" is Verbal Kint.
post #7 of 25
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I agree that negativity has worked well for the GOP in some elections past. The '04 election being a high water mark. But as we saw in '06 and '08 so far, it seems that people are finally getting tired of it.

I guess I should clarify the negativity I have a problem with. If it has to do with a candidate's record or policy positions, that's one thing. The thing I have a problem with are smears and gotchas. Things like flag pins, preachers, and wives. This is like elevating a ketchup packet to a main course. Attack the guy's positions or record but I've never seen the right so childish and desperate as this year. Especially the latest round of McCain ads. Glad Obama isn't taking this shit.
post #8 of 25
But, but he's a secret muslim married to a radical black panther who wants to turn the schools of America into madras's.

TEH PUBLIC HAS A RITE 2 KNOW!!!
post #9 of 25
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Originally Posted by dynamotv View Post
This is like elevating a ketchup packet to a main course.
Not a main course, but a vegetable.
post #10 of 25
Both sides go negative, not just the right. I have never seen a campaign go quite so negative quite so fast as the McCain campaign this year.

Of the 16m 35s worth of web and television advertising released by the McCain campaign, 14m 3s is about why you shouldn't vote for Obama. If I was undecided I would have to start to wonder if McCain actually had anything to offer seeing as he doesn't have anything to promote.
post #11 of 25
What does McCain have to offer? Well, for one, he isn't black. That'll be enough.
post #12 of 25
At the very least, I had the chance to laugh my ass off at the fact that that Savage/Weiner fuck lost a lot of radio coverage over his "autism=brats" garbage. What a douchebag.
post #13 of 25
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At the very least, I had the chance to laugh my ass off at the fact that that Savage/Weiner fuck lost a lot of radio coverage over his "autism=brats" garbage. What a douchebag.
He didn't lose enough. Poisonous bastard. Don't drink Rockstar, that's his kid's company.
post #14 of 25
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You know I have to say that I love how Obama is responding to all the smears. He's not getting mad or wallowing in the mud. Instead, he's taking their power and using it against the opposition. A great example of this is hitting back at the Republicans on the whole tire pressure thing. Instead of getting haughty, he just says "It's like they take pride in their ignorance". Political Aikido at its best.
post #15 of 25
I've heard the theory floated that Obama's holding off on seriously hitting back at McCain until after the conventions, because, due to McCain's accepting public financing and Obama rejecting it, McCain will have a lot less money to spend at that point, and a major advertising push on Obama's part might have more impact.

I also can't help but think that the recent negative McCain ads are going to be drowned out a little by the Olympics, so that's another reason Obama may not being hitting back right now.
post #16 of 25
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This is why I pretty much gave up talk radio. Mainly because it's repetetive and boring with the same shit treaded over day after day after day.
Yeah. It's called propaganda. Repeat the lies over and over and eventually it gets accepted as fact. And no one does it better than Hannity. Not even limbaugh. Hannity manages to repeat his distortions and lies in such a way that it is almost admirable if it wasn't so sickening. He never veers. He never strays it doesn't matter what his guest says he will just repeat whatever talking point he is pushing that day as if no one has even said anything.
post #17 of 25
The point made earlier about the mccain ads saying why one shouldn't vote for Obama has made me think. It seems these people are trying to legitimize (spelling?) the assumption that there is no better alternative to them. Self-righteous to the max. Sounds like they want never want to be incorrect. Ironically, they offer no reason why they are correct, just accusations and smear tactics to discredit their opponents.
Funny methinks.
post #18 of 25
Your sixth sense is...smell? Kinda disappointing.
post #19 of 25
Edited for rambling.
post #20 of 25
TheCynic is right. After 7 years of Bush hatred spewing from the left, it's a little hard to single out the right for their "addiction to negativity." But there is a lot of negativity coming from the right at the moment. The right wingers don't like McCain. He's like the Republican's Lieberman who is now trying to make nice with the powerful wing of the party he has historically given the middle finger to. So, since talk radio hosts spent so much time bashing McCain in the primaries, it would be a little disingenuous and hypocritical to now spend 3 hours a day extolling his virtues. Instead of that, they hit Obama hard as their way of convincing listeners that it's okay to hold your nose and vote for McCain as the lesser of two evils.

As for McCain's negativity, he is attempting to bring Obama down to earth. He can't beat the mythical messianic Hope and Change and Can-cure-cancer-with-his-radiant-smile candidate. McCain can beat the inexperienced, naive, egotistical, out-of-touch, typical Chicago politician who gives good, but ultimately substance-free speaches. McCain is a known quantity. Voters know his story and qualifications. Voters only know the image the Obama Machine and the Media have created. McCain will definitely hit substantive issues in fall. Right now, he's trying to make sure that Obama is still beatable when he does.
post #21 of 25
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TheCynic is right. After 7 years of Bush hatred spewing from the left, it's a little hard to single out the right for their "addiction to negativity."
I guess the left made up all that shit about "They want to give aid and comfort to the enemy", "You're either with us or against us", and being called traitors and everything else during that time. Weird.
post #22 of 25
No, see, the Left's hatred wasn't based on a flawed election, ensuing policy decisions, corrupt or lying officials, or accusations of treason or anti-patriotism for what they saw as an immoral and grossly inept invasion of a sovereign nation at the expense of a justified war in Afghanistan.

No, the Left's hatred was just Bush Derangement Syndrome. It was brought about by that sweet, sweet positivism coming from the Right during the Clinton administration. The Left just couldn't stand all that saccharine politeness during the Whitewater and Lewinsky scandals, and decided they had had enough. The Right treated Bill and Hillary with such profound respect, affection and admiration, it just ate away at the seething, heartleass souls of the Left.

Something had to be done.
post #23 of 25
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Originally Posted by jvc View Post
He can't beat the mythical messianic Hope and Change and Can-cure-cancer-with-his-radiant-smile candidate. McCain can beat the inexperienced, naive, egotistical, out-of-touch, typical Chicago politician who gives good, but ultimately substance-free speaches.
I love these little straight-from-Rush talking points. Are people on the left a little enthusiastic about Obama? Yeah. It's hard not to be when we finally have a candidate who isn't a simpleton or a douchebag for the first time in forty years. But this messianic talking point thing is straight up retarded. No amount of Obama love can possible compare to the amount of furious masturbation the right does over the very mention of Reagan. Being excited about a candidate who is likable makes it messiah worship, yet wanting to chisel into Rushmore the face of a man who spent half his fucking term thinking he was on a movie set is perfectly rational?
post #24 of 25
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I think the Germans have a word for this.....

http://mediamatters.org/embed/larryking-20080813-corsi

I love it. And here's how the Obama campaign is fighting back......



This is how you do it. This is what Kerry should have done.
post #25 of 25
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Originally Posted by dynamotv View Post
I think the Germans have a word for this.....

http://mediamatters.org/embed/larryking-20080813-corsi

I love it. And here's how the Obama campaign is fighting back......



This is how you do it. This is what Kerry should have done.

The fact that the book exists isn't bothersome to me per se. The fact that it allegeldy sits atop a New York Time's Best Seller list does.
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