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post #101 of 144
Behold the awesomeness of Red Hot Riding Hood (1943):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psGdL4md3Ig

I know some Tex Avery stuff - just like a lot of cartoons made in his heyday - could get pretty unpolitically correct, but he damn sure whipped up a lot of greatness too.
post #102 of 144
ROBOT TAEKWON V is the Korean show influenced by MAZINGER Z. TRANZOR Z is Mazinger's US title. Nerds being nerds, Japan being Japan, and Korea being Korea, and that whole situation being what it is, this is a perfect storm of fanboy racism and hate. The YouTube comments on the subject tend to be along the lines of: "Shame on You, Dog-eaters!! This time, you added the taste of Turn-X and Gunbuster on your shitty robot." and "BAKA Kimchi Dog Copy large country. ungratefulness. Rotted Kimchi Imitation large country" Those are direct copy/pasted quotes.

So it's basically like AICN talkbacks with a better grasp of English.

RED HOT RIDING HOOD is awesome.
post #103 of 144
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
Miyasaki's Sherlock Holmes, another one that I must have seen just a few times only.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeBcf...CB2E4&index=45
Holy shit. As a rabid fan of both Sherlock Holmes and Hayao Miyazaki, I'm deeply ashamed to have never heard of this.
post #104 of 144
English title is, I believe, SHERLOCK HOUND.

Furries. Why did it have to be furries?
post #105 of 144
If that is the case, you might enjoy this opening sequence from the popular Heidi cartoon (well popular except in the US I think) ...

The intro was mostly animated by Miyazaki (except 2 scenes);
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi,_Girl_of_the_Alps

Heidi intro (in Spanish);
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXW31ZyorVA
post #106 of 144
ryoken, do you remember this one?
Future Boy Conan?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ_Z0...eature=related



Directed by Miyasaki himself (didn't know that until today). Wow, now it makes sense why that style kind of set some of these apart.
post #107 of 144
FUTURE BOY CONAN is really, really good. Americans got dicked not getting this one considering we got fucking crap like this. CONAN is where Miyazaki officially begins for me.
post #108 of 144
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
I just know that Cybersix was a strange strange cartoon.
Oh my god I have that Cybersix thing sitting here in a pile of torrent downloads a friend of mine handed me months ago. I had no idea, and I never heard of it until this thread.
post #109 of 144
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Americans got dicked not getting this one considering we got fucking crap like this.
Dude, I just took a shower, and now I need another one. Thanks a lot.
post #110 of 144
I also loved that this would come on right before Batman: The Animated Series:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JHTFD7BW7o

It's still a fantastic series, too. There was this run in the late 80s-early 90s where we had this surplus of smarter-than-normal cartoons, before shit like Pokemon and Dragonball Z took over all the ADD-addled kids' minds.
post #111 of 144
I've gotta disagree completely that modern animation on the whole is any good. I see it as an assembly line churning out generic pseudo-anime that adopts none of the production quality and all of the self-conscious, superficial characteristics of Japanese animation. Ben-10, for instance. It looks like they couldn't really be bothered to actually design a cartoon, so they made it look vaguely Japanese and that was that. Compare that to the Bruce Timm/Warner Brothers stuff, and maybe to a lesser extent stuff like G.I. Joe and StarCom, which looked like anime because they looked GOOD. And so much of the rest is based on Flash animation, I think it might be hypocritical to make fun of Clutch Cargo anymore.

When I was a kid, though, I loved all of Disney's stuff: Duck Tales, Tale Spin, Chip and Dale's Rescue Rangers. It's a shame that all of Disney's TV animation now seems to be just direct spin-offs of their films.
post #112 of 144
ElCapitanAmerica, There was no shortage of Anime in the east coast in the 70's and 80's. During that time I saw these series...
70's
Speed Racer
Battle Of The Planets
Star Blazers
Astroboy
Gigantor
80's
Jim Terry's Force Five consisting of 5 Japanese anime series with 25 episodes each per show.
Go Nagai's Getter Robo G translated to Starvengers
Ufo Robot Grendizer became Grandizer
Leiji Matsumoto's Danguard A became Danguard Ace
LM's Starzinger became Spaceketeers and Akio Sugino's Daiku Maryu Gaiking became Gaiking. I also saw Queen Millenia which was an awful adaption of Leiji Matsumoto's Captain Harlock. If you want a good Harlock adventure pick up Arcadia Of My Youth. Apparantly Mazinger Z became Tranzor Z...but did not join the Force Five line up due to an inability for Jim Terry and Go Nagai to agree to terms. Starzinger was shown instead...this series was my least favorite as it was the only one not featuring a super robot. There was also a Christian Broadcast network and they aired Voltus V on Sunday nights. In the mid eighties Robotech was also aired in the US and is a must see, plus there eventually will be a live action film. Robotech is an adaption of 3 different anime series Super Dimension Fortress Macross, Super Dimension Fortress Southern Cross, and Genesis Climber Mosepeda. Voltron, Transformers and Gobots, were popular but I didn't watch those series.

By they way, ElCapitanAmerica...Have you seen the updated Mazinger Z Mazinkaiser? It is pretty cool. I also recommend Getter Robo-Armageddon and New Getter Robo. GR-A is a sequel to the original 2 Getter Robo series as well as the manga Venger Robo. All three are based on the work of Go Nagai...he created the piloted super robot, after Astroboy (boy robot) and Gigantor (remote control robot). Also, for anyone who is obsessed with Breast Missiles see GoDannar, it is the closest to a Go Nagai super robot series made today.
post #113 of 144
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
This one was called the "Abeja Maya" (Maya the Bee?), not sure if anybody is familiar with it. It's pretty old but it was very popular:

Yeah! This is the good old "Biene Maja". I reckon every German child knows this cartoon. I didn´t know that it was known beyond our boarders though.
And the Soundtrack is one for the ages. It is actually still played in discos on "Schlager-Parties" (I don´t think there is an aequivalent to it in English culture though.)

And thanks for the links to the "Marco" final. You solved a childhood mystery for me!
post #114 of 144
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Originally Posted by Greg David View Post
Well, there's a rumor that Astroboy and Gigantor were floating around when we were kids, but I have yet to meet anybody who actually watched them.
holds up my hand

Astroboy. Played on KDNL Channel 30 in St Louis. Watched the everlovin shit out of it in the early 70s.

No Gigantor. Just AB, and later on Speed Racer, Ultraman and Johnny Socko and his gigantor robot.
post #115 of 144
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Originally Posted by RyanC View Post
Behold the awesomeness of Red Hot Riding Hood (1943):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psGdL4md3Ig

I know some Tex Avery stuff - just like a lot of cartoons made in his heyday - could get pretty unpolitically correct, but he damn sure whipped up a lot of greatness too.
Somone said something about politically incorrect?

Hoooooo brother....
post #116 of 144
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
ryoken, do you remember this one?
Future Boy Conan?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ_Z0...eature=related



Directed by Miyasaki himself (didn't know that until today). Wow, now it makes sense why that style kind of set some of these apart.
Yes, I do...never really followed it, but it was pretty good if memory serves me right.
post #117 of 144
Thread Starter 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5L8Q...eature=related

Sometimes, I wonder how my small, childmind couldnt see or cared about the similaritis between shows...never cared about Tigersharks, though.
post #118 of 144
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Originally Posted by teledork View Post
Somone said something about politically incorrect?

Hoooooo brother....
Edit - this was pretty much totally wrong info, look the damn thing up on wikipedia.

Short version - Amazing animation and music.

But through modern eyes, a horrorshow.
post #119 of 144
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Originally Posted by Jan View Post
I reckon every German child knows this cartoon. I didn´t know that it was known beyond our boarders though.
That's where I recognize this from! I hooked up with a German-American girl with this character tattooed on her ass, and she explained the character's popularity in Germany. Then she made me listen to Die Toten Hozen.
post #120 of 144
Ouch. And it it speaks volumes that this lady tattooed a character on her ass that is constantly having issues about being fat. Pictures by the way....?

Oh, and "Die Toten Hosen" is just inexcusable. But we all went there when we were eleven.

Wait a minute....
post #121 of 144
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Originally Posted by Jan View Post
Ouch. And it it speaks volumes that this lady tattooed a character on her ass that is constantly having issues about being fat. Pictures by the way....?

Oh, and "Die Toten Hosen" is just inexcusable. But we all went there when we were eleven.

Wait a minute....
Not fat. Just right. But, ships passing in the night, t'wasn't meant to be, etc. Good times.

EDIT - and nope, no pictures, so it technically never happened. That's fine.
post #122 of 144
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Originally Posted by Junior View Post
I've gotta disagree completely that modern animation on the whole is any good. I see it as an assembly line churning out generic pseudo-anime that adopts none of the production quality and all of the self-conscious, superficial characteristics of Japanese animation. Ben-10, for instance. It looks like they couldn't really be bothered to actually design a cartoon, so they made it look vaguely Japanese and that was that. Compare that to the Bruce Timm/Warner Brothers stuff, and maybe to a lesser extent stuff like G.I. Joe and StarCom, which looked like anime because they looked GOOD. And so much of the rest is based on Flash animation, I think it might be hypocritical to make fun of Clutch Cargo anymore.

When I was a kid, though, I loved all of Disney's stuff: Duck Tales, Tale Spin, Chip and Dale's Rescue Rangers. It's a shame that all of Disney's TV animation now seems to be just direct spin-offs of their films.
I think that Ben-10 (what little I've seen, and I haven't seen any of the new series) is a very well written adventure series. The basic structure of each story is similar, but the hook and plot is often pretty clever. Though the character designs may be less then inspired, the animation is a hundred times more fluid and consistent then the stuff I used to watch as a kid. I think that, despite major super deformed influence, most major television animation in America is surprisingly un-Anime, and refreshingly un-Disney. Nothing against Chip and Dale and Talespin, but we already have those shows in reruns and dvd sets, we don't need everything to look like that.

There's a newish show called Chowder that uses static textures to great effect, Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends despenses with a lot of outline, and looks like nothing else on TV, and TMNT and Jackie Chan are both action cartoons based on characters with semi-realistic proportions, yet niether features giant eyes or super-angled framing.
post #123 of 144
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Originally Posted by Greg Clark View Post
I also loved that this would come on right before Batman: The Animated Series:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JHTFD7BW7o

It's still a fantastic series, too. There was this run in the late 80s-early 90s where we had this surplus of smarter-than-normal cartoons, before shit like Pokemon and Dragonball Z took over all the ADD-addled kids' minds.
Oh yeah, Let's get dangerous, indeed!

Also, speaking of smarter than normal cartoons. What about Gargoyles? That show pretty much used Shakesperean myth for a huge portion of episodes. And it had Ed Asner trying to sound like a scotsman.
post #124 of 144
They rerun Gargoyles at about 3am on Toon Disney every night. It gets a bit too soap opera after the first or second season, but the early episodes are still pretty good. When I was 14 or whatever I thought it was produced by Bruce Timm because the animation style and character designs were just similar enough to confuse me.
post #125 of 144
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
Oh yeah, Let's get dangerous, indeed!

Also, speaking of smarter than normal cartoons. What about Gargoyles? That show pretty much used Shakesperean myth for a huge portion of episodes. And it had Ed Asner trying to sound like a scotsman.
The part of Gargoyles I admired was the episode where somebody got shot. Everything wasn't okay in the next episode. As I recall, they were in the hospital for a couple of episodes afterward. I thought that was a better way to handle the subject for kids than just pretending that guns don't hurt anybody (GI Joe, I'm looking at you).
post #126 of 144
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Somone said something about politically incorrect?

Hoooooo brother....
Fucking hell. That's just horrifying. And the shit's got a FIVE STAR Youtube rating!
post #127 of 144
The wikipedia page for COAL BLACK AND DE SEBBEN DWARFS is an interesting read.
post #128 of 144
Here's one of my favorites from a long time ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF2AbHYRiFk&NR=1
post #129 of 144
Was just thinking about why I liked Beast Wars so much as a kid, and I think I narrowed it down: because they were robots, and hence, didn't bleed or die, they could punch, kick, stab and shoot the shit out of each other every episode. Several characters got decapitated regularly.

Violence to the extreme for seven ear olds. No blood? No problem!
post #130 of 144
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Originally Posted by Rourkefan View Post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxQagE62_zI

Any one remember this show?
Holy shit. I was coming in here to ask the same question. Fantastic.

Oh Long-arm.
post #131 of 144
Beast Wars was horrible because robots should have no fur.
post #132 of 144
Yep. Beast Wars sucked.
post #133 of 144
Beast Wars is proof positive that people are capable of fondly remembering literally anything that they saw as children. It may as well have been a test of the emergency broadcast system.
post #134 of 144
Greg David, I remember when a Test Pattern would appear on a channel after the programming had ended.
post #135 of 144
post #136 of 144
To date, that Tarzan cartoon remains the only faithful adaptation of Burroughs' books, which is sad.
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
I was beginning to think I was the only person who saw those. Seriously, nobody I mention them to remembers them.

This was another favorite of mine from around the same time.

Man, Scheimer and Prescott were busy boys back then.
post #137 of 144
It seemed like Filmation did everything back then.
post #138 of 144
I always liked Rocko's Modern Life. Looking back on it, there was a lot innuendo going on in it.

Rocko's Modern Life Censored Scene
post #139 of 144
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Originally Posted by Greg David View Post
Holy shit. As a rabid fan of both Sherlock Holmes and Hayao Miyazaki, I'm deeply ashamed to have never heard of this.
This was actually one of the first cartoons I ever saw, in Italian no less!
post #140 of 144
Anyone else see Robostory? French cartoon I used to watch when I was in high school in the mid 80's. This used to play every day coupled with a pretty good cartoon adaptation of the further adventures of Dorothy in Oz. Both cartoons had a narrative instead of just having standalone, contained episodes which was the first time I had come across that in animated television format.
Best theme tune for a cartoon has to go to Ulysses 31 however. Nostalgia.
post #141 of 144
Greg David, Ark II and Jason Of Star Command will be released in one dvd set later this year. My dad and I used to watch, Tarzan Lord Of The Jungle together, I wish that was getting a dvd release.
post #142 of 144
I thought about starting a new thread, but stumbled upon this old gem. I've recently, for absolutely no reason at all, been having flashbacks to a cartoon from my youth.

It involved two high school students, a geeky girl and a jock guy, getting accepted into a school in space. The irony was that the girl got accepted by the aliens readily, but the guy became an outcast.

So I did a little google searching and discovered Galaxy High School! Apparently it was produced by Chris Columbus (shades of Harry Potter?) and had a theme song by Don Felder of The Eagles. Weird.
post #143 of 144
I'll second (or third...or fourth?) the Eek! The Cat love. That along with Ren & Stimpy, Rocko's Modern Life and a few others were great early 90s "Too Fucked Up for Kids" cartoons.
post #144 of 144
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Holy shit. I was coming in here to ask the same question. Fantastic.

Oh Long-arm.
I only got to see a few episodes of COPS when I was at my grandma's or something (pickins were slim in Greenwood, MS), but I did have every issue of the DC comic, which was decently cool at the time.

I saw a new SILVERHAWKS DVD on the shelf the other day, and got pretty excited. That theme song was pretty snazzy, as I remember.
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