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post #51 of 144
8/4/08 at 1:37am
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Originally Posted by Greg David View Post
I looked up Kimba on Youtube. Look at this clip of the opening and closing credits from the Japanese original and tell me Disney don't got some 'splainin' to do. Note the army of hyenas as the bad guys.
This page shows all the similarities and claims the Lion King was a blatant ripoff:
http://www.kimbawlion.com/rant2.htm

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post #52 of 144
8/4/08 at 1:37am
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Originally Posted by Greg David View Post
I looked up Kimba on Youtube. Look at this clip of the opening and closing credits from the Japanese original and tell me Disney don't got some 'splainin' to do. Note the army of hyenas as the bad guys.
EDIT - already posted above.

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Oh yes, that show was brilliant. I couldn't get H. Jon Benjamin's voice out of my head while that show was running. Coach McGuirk remains one of my favorite comedic characters.
HOME MOVIES kicks ass. I know people who don't like it. I don't get them, I really don't.

If you look around the dollar DVD bin you might find, as I did, LEO THE LION, Tezuka's sequel series to KIMBA. Very abstract, violent, and dark. Awesomely packaged as a LION KING knock-off for maximum psychological damage.

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post #53 of 144
8/4/08 at 1:43am
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Originally Posted by Zhukov View Post
I have to agree. I can't watch G.I. Joe or Transformers or any of that, but Earthworm Jim, Eek!, Freakazoid, Animaniacs . . . all that cracks me up to this day. Maybe it's just the imprint that's made when you're young - something that you can never shake.

But then the reasonable part of me argues against that. There's a lot of crap in the children's TV wasteland - I see this firsthand in my household - and none of it approaches the sublime hilarity of 'Good Idea / Bad Idea.' I think this holds true to classic Loony Tunes, Tom & Jerry, etc. There exists islands of quality in the sea of crap, but damned if you can show me where that island is today.

In addition - perhaps this is too contemporary and really not appropriate to the subject at hand - 'Home Movies' is one of my favourite shows. That's a cartoon that is too good to survive (and alas, it lived but a short time).
I suppose there's a slant towards 'annoying = funny' in newer kid's shows, but overall I'm often shocked at how funny stuff like Billy and Mandy, Teen Titans, Xaolin Showdown, Johnny Test, Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, even Kim Possible is. I also genuinely appriciate the storytelling on shows like the new TMNT. The dialogue still stinks, but the plots are meant for more then selling toys these days.

And Home Movies is my favorite sit-com ever.
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post #54 of 144
8/4/08 at 1:44am
I would disassociate with someone who didn't like Home Movies. Fortunately it has yet to happen.

The Kimba thing is a legitimate observation, but I kind of look at it like this: if someone ripped of 'The Adventures of the Galaxy Rangers' and made an animated movie about it that was as good as 'The Lion King', I would have a hard time really complaining about it.
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post #55 of 144
8/4/08 at 1:47am
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Originally Posted by Gabe Powers View Post
I suppose there's a slant towards 'annoying = funny' in newer kid's shows, but overall I'm often shocked at how funny stuff like Billy and Mandy, Teen Titans, Xaolin Showdown, Johnny Test, Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, even Kim Possible is. I also genuinely appriciate the storytelling on shows like the new TMNT. The dialogue still stinks, but the plots are meant for more then selling toys these days.
Actually, you might very well be right. I'm gonna demand that we watch some of this, instead of Spongebob on the infinite fucking loop. I have only myself to blame.

I've actually seen Foster's Home and liked it quite a bit. I just miss the zany animation styles of Animaniacs and Earthworm Jim, with crazy eyes and exaggerated movements. The anime influence on Teen Titans is the only thing I really have against it.
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post #56 of 144
8/4/08 at 1:55am
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Originally Posted by Zhukov View Post
Actually, you might very well be right. I'm gonna demand that we watch some of this, instead of Spongebob on the infinite fucking loop. I have only myself to blame.

I've actually seen Foster's Home and liked it quite a bit. I just miss the zany animation styles of Animaniacs and Earthworm Jim, with crazy eyes and exaggerated movements. The anime influence on Teen Titans is the only thing I really have against it.
The TEEN TITANS anime style I find a nice departure from the usual, fairly sterile WB school of human character design. It's not quite anime, but it understands the visual grammar of anime a great deal more than most US attempts. It's not afraid of a multi-episode story arc, either.
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post #57 of 144
8/4/08 at 1:57am
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Originally Posted by Zhukov View Post
I would disassociate with someone who didn't like Home Movies. Fortunately it has yet to happen.

The Kimba thing is a legitimate observation, but I kind of look at it like this: if someone ripped of 'The Adventures of the Galaxy Rangers' and made an animated movie about it that was as good as 'The Lion King', I would have a hard time really complaining about it.
I actually agree. You won't catch me slagging on The Lion King. It's probably my favorite Disney animation. I'm okay with borrowing as long as it's done well. And if you're going to steal, you can do a lot worse than to steal from Osamu Tezuka.
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post #58 of 144
8/4/08 at 2:06am
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Originally Posted by reggie-wanker View Post
It's not quite anime, but it understands the visual grammar of anime a great deal more than most US attempts.
Damn. I'm not prejudiced, am I?

>leaps out of the convertible screaming<
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post #59 of 144
8/4/08 at 2:07am
Anybody remember Clutch Cargo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFnLirXjjto

With the freaky super imposed human lips? This show was before my time I think but they would play it on the Canal Zone channel, never saw a translation of it.



US TV animation was such a mess at this time. These remind me of that Incredible Hulk cartoon which I used to call "barely animated" since it looked people moving cardboard cutouts of the characters.
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post #60 of 144
8/4/08 at 2:07am
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Originally Posted by Zhukov View Post
Wow that is really awesome. How can I watch this?
If youre talking "Misterious Cities of Gold", I think Empire gave a raving review to a full series dvd set a few months ago...must be on Amazon.uk or HMV for sale then.
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post #61 of 144
8/4/08 at 2:09am
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
Anybody remember Clutch Cargo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFnLirXjjto

With the freaky super imposed human lips? This show was before my time I think but they would play it on the Canal Zone channel, never saw a translation of it.



US TV animation was such a mess at this time. These remind me of that Incredible Hulk cartoon which I used to call "barely animated" since it looked people moving cardboard cutouts of the characters.
Cap, I have to ask: You've seen the extra feature in "The Incredibles" dvd were they rip that kind of animation a new one? It cracks me up everytime i see it.
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post #62 of 144
8/4/08 at 2:12am
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Originally Posted by ryoken View Post
Cap, I have to ask: You've seen the extra feature in "The Incredibles" dvd were they rip that kind of animation a new one? It cracks me up everytime i see it.
It's especially hilarious when you watch it with the audio commentary. It's Craig Nelson and Sam Jackson in character, seeing the show for the first time.
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post #63 of 144
8/4/08 at 2:20am
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Originally Posted by Zhukov View Post
Actually, you might very well be right. I'm gonna demand that we watch some of this, instead of Spongebob on the infinite fucking loop. I have only myself to blame.

I've actually seen Foster's Home and liked it quite a bit. I just miss the zany animation styles of Animaniacs and Earthworm Jim, with crazy eyes and exaggerated movements. The anime influence on Teen Titans is the only thing I really have against it.
Just to give you some more perspective on my advice I do not like Sponge Bob. Depending on your young one's ages (I'm assuming you have some, correct me if I'm wrong), Teen Titans is actually a nice bridge to the really good stuff like Batman and Justice League.

I wonder why they never released Static Shock or Zeta on DVD, every other Bruce Timm series has several releases already.
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post #64 of 144
8/4/08 at 2:20am
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Also, here's another one you may have forgotten, Cap (it also aired on Nickelodeon in the US...the hell?):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjJLP3-Yyy0

It took me years to learn this wasnt japanese, but french made. never made it to the ending, and to this day, I hope to score the same drugs the creators of this one regularly consumed.
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post #65 of 144
8/4/08 at 2:23am
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Originally Posted by Greg David View Post
It's especially hilarious when you watch it with the audio commentary. It's Craig Nelson and Sam Jackson in character, seeing the show for the first time.
Sam Jackson's in character reaction to the, er, color palette license the show takes on him pretty much makes that one a must.
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post #66 of 144
8/4/08 at 2:34am
Man, I missed that from the Incredibles DVD. Must watch it now!

ryoken, you got me on that one. It looks absolutely crazy, some of these cartoons were pretty weird ...
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post #67 of 144
8/4/08 at 2:38am
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Originally Posted by ryoken View Post
If youre talking "Misterious Cities of Gold", I think Empire gave a raving review to a full series dvd set a few months ago...must be on Amazon.uk or HMV for sale then.
R2 UK DVD seems to be the way to go. Don't even bother looking at the exchange rates, just pay the £40 and wait for your bank statement so it can be a fun and exciting surprise for you to look forward to.

EDIT - I looked at the exchange rate. Then I wept.
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post #68 of 144
8/4/08 at 2:45am
Has this thread really gotten this far without any mention of the greatest secret agent in the world?
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post #69 of 144
8/4/08 at 2:47am
The horrible 60's Hulk cartoon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj26N10Ymlg

Captain America, possibly by the same people:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js7LR...eature=related

And the FF, with a blue tinted and very small Galactus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2M-g...eature=related
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post #70 of 144
8/4/08 at 2:48am
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
Man, I missed that from the Incredibles DVD. Must watch it now!

ryoken, you got me on that one. It looks absolutely crazy, some of these cartoons were pretty weird ...
Lets look on the bright side, they DID prepare us for any bad drug/alcohol/food poisoning related "trips" we would take as adults...this from a guy who, when suffreing from hangover headaches, yells "No, princesa andromeda!" sometimes. (yes, that was a "El Galactico" from "Festival de los Robots" reference....pretty much everyone here gets it.
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post #71 of 144
8/4/08 at 2:52am
Shouting "El Galactico references" surely gets you in the trendiest clubs and gets you the hottest girls for sure!

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post #72 of 144
8/4/08 at 2:54am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxQagE62_zI

Any one remember this show?
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post #73 of 144
8/4/08 at 2:56am
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
The horrible 60's Hulk cartoon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj26N10Ymlg

Captain America, possibly by the same people:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js7LR...eature=related

And the FF, with a blue tinted and very small Galactus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2M-g...eature=related
Believe it or not, I watched those awful things with great excitement. That's how desperate we were for superheroes back in the dark ages. You kids today with your blockbuster Batman movies don't know what it was like. We watched our shitty animation, and we were grateful.
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post #74 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:01am
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
Shouting "El Galactico references" surely gets you in the trendiest clubs and gets you the hottest girls for sure!
Not really, since most girls from my generation sided with the princesss...and there is also the never ending She-ra v/s He-man debate.
Hey Cap you ever watched "Toribio"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGZuN95o-yo
The laughter effect for the moles haunts me to this day.
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post #75 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:01am
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Originally Posted by Rourkefan View Post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxQagE62_zI

Any one remember this show?
I certainly do!
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post #76 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:04am
Thank Christ I grew up before japanimation took over.
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post #77 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:04am
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Originally Posted by Greg David View Post
Believe it or not, I watched those awful things with great excitement. That's how desperate we were for superheroes back in the dark ages. You kids today with your blockbuster Batman movies don't know what it was like. We watched our shitty animation, and we were grateful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o29VoxtsFk

Grateful indeed, we were....I swear, as a kid i thought this was the greatest achievement of mankind.
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post #78 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:06am
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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer View Post
Thank Christ I grew up before japanimation took over.
Well, there's a rumor that Astroboy and Gigantor were floating around when we were kids, but I have yet to meet anybody who actually watched them.
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post #79 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:06am
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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer View Post
Thank Christ I grew up before japanimation took over.
Well, we latin americans thank we grew up with the best of western cartoons and classic anime, before both sides went to creativity/quality hell, as far as children shows is concerned.
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post #80 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:09am
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Originally Posted by ryoken View Post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o29VoxtsFk

Grateful indeed, we were....I swear, as a kid i thought this was the greatest achievement of mankind.
One of the greatest intro songs in cartoon history :-)
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post #81 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:09am
That Spider-Man cartoon looked so much cooler in my memory.
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post #82 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:12am
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Originally Posted by Greg David View Post
That Spider-Man cartoon looked so much cooler in my memory.
There are some things better left to memory, Greg.
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post #83 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:15am
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Originally Posted by Greg David View Post
Well, there's a rumor that Astroboy and Gigantor were floating around when we were kids, but I have yet to meet anybody who actually watched them.
Hehe, I guess the TOOK OVER part was too subtle?

Yeah, I'm trolling, get off the lawn, etc., but still. So-called "anime" has led to a sort of fanboy-ism that even Devin couldn't possibly have dreamt of. If there's anything worse than suburban white boys wishing they were gangstas, it's suburban white boys wishing they were ninjas.
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post #84 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:16am
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
One of the greatest intro songs in cartoon history :-)
To this day, i know its lyrics by heart!
Also, this sequence might trigger some memories, Cap:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xI56_hIDQ8&feature=user

Every boy in our class thought the villianess in this show (Ratavari) was the peak of hotness...seriously, she pretty much wore an s&m outfit! No wonder americans thinks we watched crazy stuff as kids.
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post #85 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:23am
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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer View Post
Hehe, I guess the TOOK OVER part was too subtle?

Yeah, I'm trolling, get off the lawn, etc., but still. So-called "anime" has led to a sort of fanboy-ism that even Devin couldn't possibly have dreamt of. If there's anything worse than suburban white boys wishing they were gangstas, it's suburban white boys wishing they were ninjas.
What about wishing they were Starfleet cadets, browncoats or Jedis? Anime just took over seeds alrady there to begin with. Every hardcore fanboyism is bad in my opinion, but nothing wrong with showing your love for something in a normal, sane way.
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post #86 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:26am
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If there's anything worse than suburban white boys wishing they were gangstas, it's suburban white boys wishing they were ninjas.
OK, miklho, we understand your trauma but c'mon get some perspective vato!
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post #87 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:33am
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
This one was called the "Abeja Maya" (Maya the Bee?), not sure if anybody is familiar with it. It's pretty old but it was very popular:
I recall this airing on Nickelodeon in a block with 'David the Gnome' and 'The Noozles.'

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Originally Posted by Zhukov
1000 times yes. Surprisingly violent for a kids' show. Every episode can be found on Google Video, and it holds up surprisingly well, despite the voice cast of 5.
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post #88 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:35am
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Originally Posted by teledork View Post
CHRIST...you guys had some fucked up cartoons, Capitan. Although, to be honest, there was this girl in high school that made me think of things like "breast missiles" a lot.

I'm old as dirt, so I remember first run Scooby-Doo, Archies, Josie and the Pussycats, etc. But back in the day no cartoon show could compare to the Bugs Bunny/Roadrunner show. Yeah, it wasn't cartoons done for Saturday mornings. But fuck it. I don't care how great you think your Saturday morning commercials were, they didn't compare to the classic Warner flights of lunacy brought to broadcast (unedited at the time, as I recall) on a weekly basis. The single greatest cartoon show ever. Bugs as Brunehilde trumps all robots everywhere.
Just the fact that I feel this should be common knowledge makes me feel ancient. I don't think television has celebrated cartoons quite the same way as they were handled from the late '60s through the '80s. Saturday mornings were a ritual to me, my little brothers and every kid we knew (I was born in '72, by the way). Look, as an adult I have enjoyed some of the vulgarity and violence of today's kid and adult cartoons, but I really think kids born in the late '80s and after have missed out on good wholesome family entertainment. Stuff like Wile E Coyote's face being repeatedly blown off. Tom and Jerry beating the everlovingshit out of each other. All varities of the occult being explored on the old Scooby-Doo shows. Seriously, though, I do miss the fun and simplicity of a lot of the 'classic' stuff. We're gonna have to give in and start paying for Bommerang one of these days so my 5-year-old girl can enjoy some of the same stuff I existed on back when I was her age.
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post #89 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:37am
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As a dinosaur freak and a fan of the arcade gaem, I loved this one while it lasted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9c2K4Jl5LI

Someday, I gotta get the original comics this was based on.
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post #90 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:41am
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Originally Posted by RyanC View Post
Just the fact I feel this should be common knowledge makes me feel ancient. I don't think television has celebrated cartoons quite the same way as they were handled from the late '60s through the '80s. Saturday mornings were a ritual to me, my little brothers and every kid we knew (I was born in '72, by the way). Look, as an adult I have enjoyed some of the vulgarity and violence of today's kid and adult cartoons, but I really think kids born in the late '80s and after have missed out on good wholesome family entertainment like Wile E Coyote's face being repeatdely blown off, Tom and Jerry beating the everlovingshit out of each other, and all varities of the occult being explored on the classic Scooby-Doo shows. Seriously, though, I miss the fun and simplicity of a lot of the old stuff. Gonna have to give in and start paying for Bommerang one of these days so my 5-year-old girl can enjoy some of the same stuff I existed on at her age.
Do you have Netflix? A lot of it is out on DVD these days.
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post #91 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:41am
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Originally Posted by ryoken View Post
Every hardcore fanboyism is bad in my opinion, but nothing wrong with showing your love for something in a normal, sane way.
Fair enough. By the way, Ryoken, are you Asian?

EDIT!
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post #92 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:49am
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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer View Post
Fair enough. By the way, Ryoken, are you Asian?

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Uhm, nope, as far as I know... http://chud.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108591 there, you can see my non asian mug (mind you, im thinner now)!
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post #93 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:50am
Hey ryoken, how about this one:


"Queen Millenia" in English. I barely remember this cartoon, but I do remember the style of the little guys as shown in that poster.
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post #94 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:52am
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
Hey ryoken, how about this one:


"Queen Millenia" in English. I barely remember this cartoon, but I do remember the style of the little guys as shown in that poster.
You've got me beat, Cap...never saw that one before!
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post #95 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:54am
Miyasaki's Sherlock Holmes, another one that I must have seen just a few times only.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeBcf...CB2E4&index=45
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post #96 of 144
8/4/08 at 3:57am
When Aquaman was "cool";
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcvpTQ-MIWk
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post #97 of 144
8/4/08 at 4:03am
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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer View Post
If there's anything worse than suburban white boys wishing they were gangstas, it's suburban white boys wishing they were ninjas.
There is a tremendous amount of entertainment value to be found in suburban white boys wishing they were ninjas.
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post #98 of 144
8/4/08 at 4:09am
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Originally Posted by Greg David View Post
Do you have Netflix? A lot of it is out on DVD these days.
Yeah, we've only rented a couple of the Looney Toons Golden Collection discs (LOVE!) so far. But that's in between Disney movies, Barbie movies (SUCK!), etc that my daughter picks out. It's a good thing Cartoon Network plays old Scooby-Doos at least because that's some of her favorite stuff. I'd love for her to be able to discover all kinds of old goodness just by turning on the tv, though. I need to dig deeper into Netflix now that you mention it to see what else they might have. Hopefully I can find some Felix the Cat, Superfriends, Pink Panther, etc. I was watching some clips of The Electric Company - not all cartoon, I know* - with her yesterday and some of that shit is just insane. I can't believe how wacked out a lot of it seems now.


*Mind-altering funkadelia flavor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tfsy...eature=related
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post #99 of 144
8/4/08 at 4:11am
JAPAN
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post #100 of 144
8/4/08 at 4:19am
I vaguely remember Tranzor Z. I had a friend who kept trying to get me to watch it. It was always "Two-faced freak" this and Bobo-bot that.

I think it was Korean, wasn't it?

Edit: I only know Clutch Cargo through Pulp Fiction.
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