Paranormal stuff you believe - Page 2

Aah, weidnj! I love that site. Been planning some outings there with the old roomie to drum up the heebies and the jeebies.

Amen, sister, amen. I grew up in central Jersey (the Bridgewater area) and, despite the fact that it was mostly farm land, fear of the Jersey Devil persisted. I think this is due, in no small measure, to the fact that, students are taught all about it in the mandatory 4th grade New Jersey history class.

I totally believe in the Jersey Devil. The thing attacked a fucking trolley car full of people! That's awesome!

Aliens - Sure. UFOs, probably, though I know people who are convinced they're time machines.

Cryptids - I'd like to think at least a few of them exist. The Almas seems most realistic out of all the ape-men, and I'd love to think there's a mokele-membe, giant octopus, or kongomato or two hanging out.

Ghosts - Just from the overwhelming number of people I know who've had run-ins it seems impossible to ignore that there's some sort of phenomenon. My cousins lived in a haunted house, when I was a little kid me and my brothers used to be terrified hearing the noise of shod feet stamping up and down the hardwood hallway while my dad contentedly snored from the next room, and one of my friends once saw his grandfather looking out at him from behind a tree smiling and waving, and when he went into the house to tell his mom he found his mom holding the phone, crying, saying that his grandfather had just died. My little brother was a ghost lightning rod, that kid saw a LOT more than he cared to. I'd say when people are young they're a lot more attuned to that side of existence.

Witches - Don't believe, but as a New Englander still support burning them sheerly out of principle.

Mothmen/Spring-Heel Jack - Sure, why not.

Sir! Mock not the hillbillies, for yea, those are my people.

Jersey Devil? Personal friend of mine - I used to go into the woods and track animals, who I'd skecth or shoot pics of (it evolved from hanging out with my grandpa; my brother and I would go on nature walks with him in the woods behind his house. Great times, until the local strip malls and condos went up). It was cool - like hunting without fucking up the animal's day.

I'd gone into the Pine Barrens to see what was lurking about - small critters, deer, etc. It was getting late, so I started hiking back to my car. I suddenly "felt" something was following me (hairs on back of my neck were rising, swore I heard something moving). I spun around and saw this black shape, which moved to the side, then OVER my head (I'm 6'4") and into the woods. I ran like hell towards my car, and burned rubber outta there.

Yeah, probably was a deer (abnormally big fuckin' deer, though), but I couldn't swear to it. (cue spooky music)

Jersey hillbillies? Wasn't that long ago that we had a shitload in Jackson Township. Stripmalls, condos, etc. have driven most of 'em out, but back in the day we had some serious pockets of humanity a belch and a holler from where I went to school. Folks whose family trees didn't fork. Folks who'd get together and share a tooth to eat their vittles with. Families that came out of the woods three times a year - 1) to go to Glory's Deli for food to last 'em all winter, 2) Jackson Day every September (that should go into the County Fair thread), and 3) whenever Molly Hatchet was playing at Great Adventure.

Aliens? Yep - universe is pretty fucking huge, and it's egocentric to think we're the best Creation could come up with. Whether or not the government has a couple of alien bodies somewhere, I don't know.

Ghosts? Haven't seen one, but I have seen a lot of weird shit to give this one a definite possibility.

Psychics? I think there are a few, but WAY too many shysters out there. I've had prophetic dreams and deja vu enough to keep my mind open on this.

Bigfoot and Cryptozoology? At one time, sure. As a kid in the 70's, we used to hear about Bigfoot, Nessie, etc. every damn day (hey, the Six Million Dollar Man took on Bigfoot a couple of times, and I had Buster Brown shoes that made Bigfoot footprints. came with a foot shaped whistle, too). Nowadays, not so much - when's the last time we heard a good Bigfoot story?

Hey, farmland don't mean squat to the Jersey Devil. It'd be like Jeepers Creepers 2 - JD'd come bouncing flying, swoop you up, and that's that. And yes, every schoolkid in Jersey used to get the lowdown on the Jersey Devil (I wrote a book report on Leeds Point back in 3rd grade).

The Last Broadcast was pretty cool, BTW - caught it on IFC a few years back. Although, I did have to laugh and point at the X-Files episode where Mulder and Scully were investigating the Jersey Devil (c'mon folks, NJ police cars didn't look like that back in the day. It's called research, Carter. look it up).

Hear this one.

And I lump Jersey Devil in with the other cryptids. That one week's worth of sightings in 1909 is interesting stuff.

Now the Jersey Devils, that's a whole other story. Marty Brodeur is a devil in the net.

And I had not heard the UFOs are actually time machines one before. Very, very interesting.

I'd like to see The Last Broadcast, but it's not available through Netflix. Although given the fact that the damn thing still gives me the creeps 36 years later, I'll probably regret it.

What d'ya guys mean, Bigfoot isn't real? Are you telling me this



ain't real?

I think the UFO's are time machines is one of the more interesting theories. Probably crap since we haven't caught a Delorean UFO, or a Van Damme alien, but interesting none the less.

I'm a total sucker for paranormal things. I'm convinced everything is real until there is certain direct proof that there is no way it can possibley exist. However, I do questions some things. But as far as I'm concerned - ghosts? Real. Nessie? Hide and Seek Champion. Psychics? I'm getting a reading tomorrow, and I'm going to decide once and for all.

I love Electronic Voice Phenomena. I don't believe it is the voices of the dead, but I love it just the same.

If it's not available on Netflix, then how did I just bump it to the top of my queue? Huh? Answer me that, smartypants!


Ripolli, E.V.P. is guaranteed to give me a big ole scoop of the heebie jeebies everytime.

Because you probably didn't type it in wrong? (Great, now I'll have nightmares AND childhood trauma!)

I would like to point out that we shall all surely be mocked for our "beliefs" in such things that have not been proved and must be taken on...faith?

Just sayin.

As a lover of all "Unexplained Phenomena" (spent many a library trip scouring that section... mythology, cryptozoology, etc) and an X-Files fan...

I WANT TO BELIEVE.

There's some bizarre and undiscovered stuff in this world, and I get excited every time a WTF carcasse washes up somewhere. I have a monster subsection in my dvd collection specifically for Bigfoot and Nessie. I've had some weird coincidences happen to my family just after my Dad's death that were impossible to ignore, and a more recently a bout of Sleep Paralysis that left me pretty shaken.

I never called Cleo for a free tarot card reading, but I am pretty susceptable to a great campfire tale, Ripley's Believe It or Not blurb, In Search Of or MonsterQuest spotlight, "Weird USA" local legend, Haunted tv show re-enactment, or Fortean-ish news item.

EDIT: I'd also be willing to bet there's a common universal "collective unconscious" explanation for several phenomena over the years (aliens, ghosts, angels, etc), besides crazy hallucinations.

Now that's one hell of a scary phenomenon.

Last Broadcast won't scare anyone too bad. This thread is like is Kevin Smith wrote an episode of Supernatural. All it needs is cunnilingus talk.

Wasn't there an X File about the Jersey Devil? She was kind of a hot woman or something?

Has anyone ever seen this site? Hundreds of supposedly true stories. It doesn't seem like there's any oversight in the posting of stories, so you'll get some obviously bullshit ones, but others will definately make the hair on your neck stand up. Some of them are actually quite disturbing, for various reasons.

Shadowlands has a lot of great stuff. I used to visit it at least once a week. Plenty of well known Texas and Houston stories there. The Patterson Road stories are very much confirmed by just about anyone near my side of town. I live and work about 3 miles from it. In my ignorance I decided to check it, and the cemetery, out in high school. Not again!

I believe in Harvey Dent.

Damn straight.
She was an evolutionary throwback, a cave woman missing link or something, and not at all as cool as a giant bat-horse-stork demon.

Oh, absolutely. Dragons probably didn't exist, but when someone stumbles across a giant fossil bone or an imprint, well, the mind will reel with possibilities. Also helps to explain some of the universal mythos, such as the hero's journey in legend and myth.

Also, a lot of legends probably came about because of some bizarre genetic mutation. You mean to say that the guy with bark growing on his skin wouldn't conjure nightmares in primitive people? He freaks me out.

EDIT: I'd also say that I believe that whatever doesn't kill you, only makes you...stranger.

To be honest, I'm a bit shocked at some of the nonsense that intelligent people are professing to believe here.

I'm staying the hell out of this thread (after this) because I don't want to get punched by Lisa.

Admittedly, we aren't forming religions out of this. Well, I know we aren't. That's not to say there aren't some oddballs out there doing just that.

And maybe I just think TAPS is a way cooler cult to belong to than anything else.

My friends and I share belief in a lot of paranormal things, or at least we tend to get curious enough to seek out trouble wherever we can find it.

UFOs - Yes. Dan Akroyd agrees.

Cryptos - Some of them. I agree thats its likely some of the species have died out, but I'd like to think there's still a Sasquatch up there in the northern Canadian reaches where no one lives.

Jersey Devil - I've heard enough stories (even one from a friend and his mother) and have read all the stories that I think that its quite possible it at least existed some years ago. Could be dead now, though.

Ghosts - EVP rocks. I don't think all things said to be ghosts are ghosts, but I believe that there are other dimensions within a close spectrum proximity to ours that have different kinds of creatures inhabiting them. I've experienced some freaky shit in my life too.

Psychics - Most, like the ones on Paranormal State, are complete bullshit. However, I do think there are some sensitive people that can see, feel, or hear things (going to my different spectrum belief, their senses just are skewed a little bit over so they have certain access to the other spectrums; kind of like how some people can see slightly into U.V. while they can't see some tones of red) that others can't.

Mothman - Real.

How people can still deny the existence of the Jersey Devil in the face of the following photographic evidence is beyond me...




The Jersey Devil, the only demonic creature partial to FUBU.

Fixed for clarification...and awesomeness.

Nevermind. Nothing to see here, folks.

Just watched a great special on the History channel in regards to the origin of the Griffin monster myth and the correllation of major deposits of protoceratops fossils found in the same areas.



EDIT: This would have been a neat exhibit to catch. Ooh... video podcasts.

It should probably also be pointed out that much of this stuff, like aliens, UFOs, and cryptids, is not necessarily paranormal.

"Paranormal is an umbrella term used to describe unusual phenomena or experiences that lack an obvious scientific explanation. In parapsychology, it is used to describe the potentially psychic phenomena of telepathy, extra-sensory perception, psychokinesis, ghosts, and hauntings. The term is also applied to UFOs, some creatures that fall under the scope of cryptozoology, purported phenomena surrounding the Bermuda Triangle, and other non-psychical subjects."

or as I'd like to call it: "X-Files fodder".

But the dictionary def might be more to your liking:
"of or pertaining to the claimed occurrence of an event or perception without scientific explanation, as psychokinesis, extrasensory perception, or other purportedly supernatural phenomena."

That griffin looks nothing like that dinosaur.

Just saying.

Okay, "paranormal" works. Guess I meant "supernatural".

The people who created the griffin tales were probably basing their theories on the common jumbled bone discoveries of a 4 legged beaked creature, not actual accounts of living specimens. The Montauk Monster??? They assumed (because of the beak) that it must have been part bird with feathers, etc. When now we have a better idea of the dinosaur's physiology and that it was actually a reptile.

Paranormal, supernatural, hell with it. I'll believe anything if it means Dana Scully shows up in my neck of the woods to investigate.



If she wears this outfit, she can investigate me all she wants. And I'd investigate her back.

Perfect. I'll take the front!

As a kid, it was fun to believe that a group of coal miners cracked open a large piece of coal and a still living pterodactyl fell out, scurried around a bit, and then quickly died. Or that ape-like creatures still wonder the remote forests of the Pacific Northwest. Or that a plesiosaur made Loch Ness its home. Or that if you visited a certain spot at midnight on Halloween night you'd totally see the ghost of the kid who was hit by a train. Or was it a horse drawn carriage? Maybe it was a motorcycle crash and it wasn't kid at after all. Or maybe the guy on the motorcycle hit an alien riding in a horse drawn carriage. Ghost alien!

As a kid, this makes the world a more interesting place to live in. It stokes the fires of imagination. Ghosts are real, dinosaurs still exist, aliens mutilate cattle for shits and giggles, and there are such things as thunderbirds, Jersey devils, samsquanches, yetis, chupacabras, dogmen, alligator men, spoon men...

As a kid.

We now live in a world where very little can go undocumented. The magic of belief dies as the proof proves to be nonexistent. But thankfully it's replaced with the ever growing understanding of how truly fascinating a universe we live in without needing to believe in whatever folklore, myth, superstition or tall tale that captured our attention as children.

Course, having said that, Spring Heeled Jack was completely real and was the same thing reported as the Monkey Man a few years back. I have proof!

Oh, well in that case I fully recant my position. I had no idea there were actually people out there who claim to have encountered ghosts.

Al Scwartz: Chicago Ghost Attorney

Lots of stuff goes undocumented. Previously unknown large land dwelling mammals were found in Thailand last year; someone mentioned the huge Gorilla enclave earlier. And there is a significant gap between something being documented and something being considered factual. Couple hours out of Dallas, in Stephensville, hundreds of people reported seeing some weird shit in the sky. Added to that, the Air Force scrambled fighters to the area, claimed they hadn't the next day, then had to retract that when the FAA showed otherwise. All well documented, but that doesn't necessarily translate into understanding just what the fuck is going on.

Aliens! Hogwash I say, they are subterranean humanoids from a horrifying future that has been decimated by Mad Cow Disease.

Ghosts! Quantum fluctuations flickering in and out on the peripheries of our world.

Chupacabra! Real talk.

Any litigation attorney will tell you, fully half the job is just getting your client to keep their goddamn mouth shut. That's why I represent ghosts; rattling chains and "Ooooooooooooo"s just aren't as creepy in transcript form.

In response, I'll fall back to: well, time to get married, have 2.2 kids, move to the suburbs and shut my mind off to the imagination of my youth. Gotta be mature and all.

(I know this is not at all what you're saying, but I can't help but feel that a small, decent amount of inner child, of that awe, wonder and fear, can't be a bad thing)

I was doing some research for work and came across a doc called Sasquatch Odyssey. The film was actually not terribly concerned with the "real/not real" debate, but rather was a touching/goofy portrait of a group of 70-80 year-old men who've devoted their lives to searching for Sasquatch and the Yeti and shit. The film explored the desire of a certain personality type to want to believe that there is still some mystery and adventure to the world, that we haven't figured everything out yet. In that respect, it was a sweet, quixotic, touching portrait of madmen chasing a dream, along the lines of American Movie or King of Kong. I recommend Netflixing it.

Edit:

What am I supposed to be seeing there, Phil? Does the movement of the frame have significance?

What you're supposed to be seeing, LD, is that it's really f-in' cool. Just go with it.

Ooooo...

Nah, someone just stabilized the famous Paterson Bigfoot film so you can see her (note the tits) more clearly. There's a similar quicktime of the Zapruder film, but google it your dam selves.

And yeah, I really just thought it was kinda cool looking. For looking at.

Them'r monkey hooters, alright. Interesting.

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