Borderlands - Page 3

I have to say that I was pretty excited about the game until I saw that quick look. Was there more to it than shooting dogs and crabworms for 30 minutes? And the whole bit about 10-15 minutes in about "We have to go kill Scar!" sounded neat until it ended up being a bigger dog with a peg leg. Hm.

Exactly. I really think this will be a polarizing game. A lot of people are expecting COD where the enemies just drop a shitton of guns when they die and you can 4 player co-op through it. Those people will not like this game, I think.

Instead, it's pretty much a MMO you can do single player (Phantasy Star Online comes to mind) where instead of clicking on the enemy and then activating spells, you click on their face to shoot them in it. Then loot falls out.

I'm ok with that. Because I like to shoot things and I like loot and if I want a hardcore, sweet-ass FPS, well...Modern Warfare 2 is out soon.

I think PSO is a really perfect description. More than the Diablo or WoW comparisons. And I was super addicted to PSO.

Yeah, I wasn't hoping for full-on Call of Duty, but I guess I had the impression that is was a more desolate Crackdown or something, beyond the purdy cell shaded effect.

I don't mean to paint with to broad of a brush, but is that what most MMOs are like? Travel through a land full of dogs and the only objective is to shoot a bigger dog? Is that kinda how Fallout 3 plays? I've been tempted many times to pick that game up, but always steered myself away.

Fallout 3 is like that unless you mod the ever living hell out of it on PC (I play Fallout 3.5, and you would be amazed by the way you can change that game).

MMOs are exactly like that, but then again, so is Diablo. I am really really hoping Borderlands is more like the latter.

No.

God, no.

What?

For the record, I was referring to the combat of both games.

You wander the wasteland, kill some scorpions, maybe some ghouls and robots, whatever's at hand. Increased Spawns, Marts Mutant Mod 4.1, ACE2.0 change all that, but the vanilla combat in Fallout 3 is pretty similar, except for going into VATS and headshotting everyone.

I dunno, man. I see hit points flying of enemies and I assume the worst. The "worst" being roaming around for a half hour intermittently killing assloads of the same thing all in an attempt to kill the mommy. I think I got a bad taste of RPGs from watching a friend play Miracle Warriors on the Sega.

Both ambitious and tedious in equal measure.

It's definitely a Gearbox game.

To a degree, yes. MMOs normally dress it up, give you a background story on why it's important to kill the king of the snobolds to give you a reason to slaughter all of the snobolds in the way to get to him and kill him. If it's a good MMO it will stack a few quests in the same area so you feel like you're accomplishing something other than just slaughtering all the beasties in the area (grinding). At the end of the day you're just killing mobs to make yourself more powerful though (either by levelling up or gaining gear).

It's definitely different than objective based gaming, but for most players the levelling up and becoming more powerful is the objective.

First DLC already announced - http://chud.com/articles/articles/21...IES/Page1.html

No complains from me, since its been just announced, not just released, like some other companies do (Im looking at YOU, Bandai Namco).

That's not entirely fair Spike, i've been behind this title for a while, all aboard for looking unique and fun - but that was before 10 minutes of people shooting the same dog over and over.

You can't preach about this diverse experience when the people actively playing it in front of you admit to only using one gun for almost the entire duration of the game. That the sole enemy we see is a dog or in one case, a slightly larger dog. That the terrain is a lifeless desert - putting snow textures or some hills in it isn't diversity.

There's already been several people testing this that say the 'varied' missions are simply kill or fetch jobs.

In fact the only thing I liked the look of were the vehicle physics. Even then, there are some dubious design choices there.

I'm just not seeing the exciting ideas. I appreciate they're trying to do something new, but it does not make an exciting 10 minute viewing.

more like Bore-durr-lame-ds amirite

I just want to shoot dogs, that's all.

Then BOY have we got the game for YOU!

I still have no idea why this game is so highly anticipated.

The dogs you get to kill are cell-shaded!

The one in your avatar is stuffed, isnt it?

Of course I don't have to buy it - you got me to LoveFilm most of my games!

Its just the usual disappointment stemming from any excellent trailer. I think perhaps I was expecting a Fallout 3 clone with co-op. This is definitely more the MMO crowd than the kind of co-operative I find myself drawn to.

Especially after seeing those guys get all hormonal over someone's gun.

Well, I can hope it's a bit like Resistance 2 co-op (although obviously less chaotic with 4-player max). I didn't mind grinding the same levels and mobs over and over because at least the instances were randomized and the groups were generally pretty good and the perks you got made the game more interesting.

I think the missions in this game work much the same way. Plus the branching perks, additional class, wider variety of mobs and what seems like a better sense of humor make this game look like it could be at least as fun. I guess it ends up depending on how the match-making goes and how easy it is to end up with a bunch of jerks.

More likely, they don't want people selling their games and having other gamers buying used copies. It's why damn near every game is getting DLC packs nowadays. Can't fault them for it, though.

Anymore leaked reviews? I'm still curious what kind of scores it's going to end up getting. Either way I'm pretty sure I'll get my moneys worth.

Kent, you're kind of letting us down here. I even stopped by my local Best Buy to see if they'd made the same mistake because of your post, but my local Best Buy is apparently the best run Best Buy in the world because those bastards NEVER let something out on the shelves early. It would be nice to get some feedback though.

Maybe the game's so terrible that he died.

Heh, sorry about that. I've been playing a little bit as the Berserker and I gotta say, I like it. It definitely has that Phantasy Star Online vibe to it, which I can't say I mind. I also like how the A.I. functions (for now, at least. It could suck later for all I know) with how they run for cover and try to swarm you. Though I do agree that it'll definitely be a polarizing game for people.

It's billed as Halo mixed with WoW. I'm sure there's someone out there that seems enticed by that combination.

After that video, I'm way beyond the Halo or other FPS mixed with WoW/Diablo comments. It's 100% PSO.

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/9...realgamer.html

Video games are finally making the inevitable move to bad sketch comedy. It's a natural progression.

After a little more time with it I've decided that, even though it's incredibly flawed, it's still a fun experience. I suggest (obviously) playing with some friends because that's definitely where the most fun is going to be had. And despite what the marketing campaign says, don't go in looking for a variety of guns. For every amazing one you find, there's ten other generic guns that don't do shit but take up space in your inventory.


Also, don't hit anything with a vehicle that isn't living. All you'll do is get stuck.

Yeah, I made sure to keep the receipt. And I got a PS3 copy. Don't know if that makes a difference but oh well.

There's talk of people being banned from the PSN for unsavoury practices before, but it's not common. The service just isn't that tightly regulated.

You'll be fine.

What's to stop people just creating a profile for playing illegal games on then?

They wouldn't lose their gamepoints and whatnot. I'm not that familiar with the system, but surely that'd defeat the point of banning mere accounts?

Interesting. The ps3 still hasn't been hacked, so piracy on that system is a no go. PSN games can be downloaded up to 5 times and one game purchase can be put on 5 seperate systems, but sony doesn't seem to have a problem with that. What other unsavoury practices are you refering to?

As far as I know it's the console that's banned. The Tag has nothing to do with it (On 360). Microsoft want you to keep playing even after your banned so you go out and buy a new console. But of course there's always workarounds.

It's only actual illegal copies of the game anyway. If you have a legal copy that you happened to get early, they're not going to ban you.

I just saw a review on Kotaku about it. Seemed generally positive if you're not playing it solo.

That as well, as we saw with ODST earlier this year. Oddly enough Halo 3 was also released incredibly early by one retailer here in the UK and no bans stemmed from that.

Well they're not going to punish people for buying legitimate copies of the game, early or not. That's silly.

By the way, the Kotaku review stole your line:

Mine was much more clever and elaborate.