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post #1 of 30
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This is a thread to discuss comic book (and graphic novel) films.

I really hope The Dark Knight lit a fire under DC's ass. Quit casting the cast of The OC as the JLA for example.

As for Marvel Jason Statham Wants To Be Daredevil, Frank Miller Approves

We don't have to discuss superheroes either, feel free to wonder why 100 Bullets isn't a film yet or something.

That's all I have to say for now.


Disclaimer: I thought it would be a good idea to have a single thread to discuss upcoming comic book films. That way Focused Film Discussion isn't filled with dozens of "IRON MAN 2 pre-release discussion" threads 2 years in advance. If this was a bad idea, darn.
post #2 of 30
I like the idea. Especially if we widen it to include movies inspired by comics. Because it's not okay to discuss comic book movies without bringing up The Specials.

Now I know this thread is going to be overwhelmingly dedicated to superhero properties, and there's nothing wrong with that. But before that happens, I want to mention how much I love American Splendor. I love the way it challenges everything that a biopic is supposed to be, and occasionally even what a narrative film is supposed to be.
post #3 of 30
I always get crazy looks from people when I tell them my favorite comic book movie is A History of Violence and I love it.
post #4 of 30
I want to know why these two works have not been adapted in some capacity yet...





Now Brooklyn Dreams I get, tho I think it could become a really interesting animated mini-series or something, but Domu has 'summer blockbuster' written all over it I reckon - maybe if the live action Akira becomes a hit.
post #5 of 30
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Films inspired by comics are okay, and the more discussion about non-superhero properties the better. I suggest we leave the discussion of (upcoming/released) comic book films that exist (like X-Men Origins: Wolverine) to FFD. This is more for speculation and hype so we can wonder who's playing Yorick Brown without crowding up FFD.

To carry on with the discussion:


You know it's gonna happen, but when?
post #6 of 30
When we get Squee's Wonderful Big Giant Movie of Unspeakable Horrors, then we'll be getting somewhere.

Although seriously, seeing Jhonen Vasquez get into feature animation would make my day.
post #7 of 30
So now there going to try to revive Daredevil too? Marvel is fucking idiotic.

I don't know what's worse, popping out a generic superhero film every other month like Marvel, or only releasing one or two a year like DC.
post #8 of 30
I wouldn't say that Marvel's been generic at all. In fact, I admire their willingness to take risks on directors who, at first glance, wouldn't seem ideally suited to a comic book movie. It doesn't always pay off, but when it does, it's worth the risk.
post #9 of 30
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So now there going to try to revive Daredevil too? Marvel is fucking idiotic.

I don't know what's worse, popping out a generic superhero film every other month like Marvel, or only releasing one or two a year like DC.
Daredevil is worth reviving if it's made right. The whole story is fucking brilliant. Although I could do without the lame nu-metal, the Elektra storyline (save it for later or not at all), or the lame impossible parkour jumping.



As for my opinion on the comic book world becoming more prevalent in the film world, I love it and I wanna see more. Sure, the superhero films get a little old, but there have been awesome films adapted from the comic world that are totally different from the superhero subgenre.

Road to Perdition, A History of Violence, V for Vendetta, 300 come to mind.

I do think the superhero sub genre needs a bit of a revamping and I hope Watchmen does that. The Dark Knight helped do that as well, but I'm getting a little tired of the "villain of the week" storylines. What I would like to see is a studio dedicated to one hero and create a multi-film franchise and film it at once. Instead of creating sequels, just create a LOTR-style serial 2 or 3 film franchise.

While Spider-Man 1 and 2 were great films, the third film felt like a completely separate franchise with a different tone and feel to it when compared to the first two. Even X2 felt like a totally different film than the first one and X3 was garbage compared to the previous entries. If a superhero trilogy was to be filmed all at once with the same story, no new villains... it would play well I think.
post #10 of 30
Current, unverified rumblings say that TDK's box-office has put the JLA movie back on track. With the exception of non-team oriented films, the X-Men franchise is dead and the Fantastic Four, never really a contender to begin with, has wilted, but the JLA is still a superhero team project that really doesn't need to happen. I simply cannot see a JLA film, especially with how the film was coming together to begin with, as turning out to be anything other than a gigantic clusterfuck.
post #11 of 30
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To carry on with the discussion:


You know it's gonna happen, but when?

Gianni Nunnari said RONIN was a go after 300 came out, but in a matter of a few weeks, any news on development completely faded away.
post #12 of 30
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Current, unverified rumblings say that TDK's box-office has put the JLA movie back on track.
Screw JLA. Give me a Flash film that's Just one 90 minute crazy ass chase scene. Something that blows the freeway chase from Reloaded out of the water.

Why would they do JLA before establishing the characters in individual films first? Marvel's got it right with The Avengers I say, why go over the top with the huge team film first?
post #13 of 30
wish DC got off their collective asses and actually made a film beside batman and superman as they do have a large catalog of characters to choose from: wonder woman, flash, booster gold, Dr fate..or even if they choose from their vertigo label such as sandman (which has had a long development hell) or 100 bullets or preacher which have been both optioned as a tv series and nothing has happened recently in their development..
post #14 of 30
I've always thought that Sandman Mystery Theater would be an ideal way for HBO to put its classy stamp on the superhero genre, and to expand on another genre: noir.

Matthew Broderick would excellent as Wesley Dodds, but Phillip Seymour Hoffman would be ideal in every way now. I bet if the right talent were behind the scenes he would be interested. This high minded left field casting is why John Adams was so excellent. The way the comic realistically introducted other golden age DC characters would be reminiscent of how Deadwood and Rome played with their respective historic characters.

As I've said before here on these boards, it would be easier to translate this than Gaiman's Sandman.

A great feature: Sandman's main arch nemesis The Face would be played a revolving door of character actors like Michael Wincott, Michael Massee, and Doug Hutchison.

The only thing is that the show would expensive, and I think HBO is trying to get away from such expensive endeavors. An understandble sad truth.
post #15 of 30
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When we get Squee's Wonderful Big Giant Movie of Unspeakable Horrors, then we'll be getting somewhere.

Although seriously, seeing Jhonen Vasquez get into feature animation would make my day.
Hell I'd happily take a Zim feature if it came to it.
post #16 of 30
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Screw JLA. Give me a Flash film that's Just one 90 minute crazy ass chase scene. Something that blows the freeway chase from Reloaded out of the water.

Why would they do JLA before establishing the characters in individual films first? Marvel's got it right with The Avengers I say, why go over the top with the huge team film first?
Since Wally West is just about the last superhero I have any interest in seeing on the screen these days, I'm still pretty pissed the Ryan Reynolds version fell through. That casting would have rocked my world as much as Downey Jnr's Stark
post #17 of 30
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Gianni Nunnari said RONIN was a go after 300 came out, but in a matter of a few weeks, any news on development completely faded away.
Sylvain White (stomp the yard) had been attached to direct back in Feb 2007 according to this article

when are they going to make a decent adaption of swamp thing? there were rumours of it being 'remade' recently..
post #18 of 30
I'd still like them to reboot Daredevil personally.

I'm not as down on the first movie as everyone else is (I've never seen the director's cut though), yeah it's definitely not great but there was good stuff in there, and I think people might be receptive to another go.

I wrote a fan-wank treatment a long time ago called Daredevil: The Man Without Fear that kind of rebooted the franchise with Karen Page (who I always pictured Reese Witherspoon playing) and Purple Man and Gladiator as the villains and I believe I might've worked in the yellow costume as well. My villain choice might not have been ideal (I'd just read Yellow at the time, so that's why Purple Man is in there) but I still like the idea of Karen Page being in there.
post #19 of 30
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when are they going to make a decent adaption of swamp thing? there were rumours of it being 'remade' recently..
Was that the thing on Sci-Fi way back? I think it was Man-Thing, actually.
post #20 of 30
Give me DAREDEVIL done straight (a la Nolan), directed by Alajandro Innurito Gonzales. Hand-held cams, washed-out visuals. Gritty, and not simply in terms of theme or story. Give me John-Rhys Davies (bald and clean-shaven) as a Moriarty-esque Kingpin acting as the evil behind all evil, and a minion like Mr. Fear or Typhoid Mary. Absolutely out-of-the-box casting, with all character actors and zero big names. And for the love of Christ, no Kevin Smith cameos.
post #21 of 30
swamp thing or at least an adaption closer to the alan moore stories. i think man thing was a marvel's idea of swamp thing but worse..
post #22 of 30
For me, you can't do a better SWAMP THING story than Alan Moore's LOVE AND DEATH, where Arcane possesses Matt Cable and then terrorizes and kills Abigail, forcing Swampy to go into Hell for her soul, culminating with their love consumated via orgasm fruit. That arc even starts with a semi orgin-reboot (Swampy buries Holland's body, realizing he is a seperate entity of sorts). Get Jackson or Del Toro to do this and you're fucking golden.
post #23 of 30
Add me to the list of folk who want to see a re-launch of Swamp Thing. There was a syndicated tv series that did incorporate some of Moore's ideas, but it was a kiddie focused show and didn't really work.

I'd love to see the first Grendel series on film, with Matt Wagner's participation.

And I'm bitter that we'll never see Reid Fleming, World's Toughest Milkman, played by Jack Nicholson in his prime, on the big screen. Maybe they could get Christian Slater do his full on Jack impression and make it work....
post #24 of 30
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Give me DAREDEVIL done straight (a la Nolan), directed by Alajandro Innurito Gonzales. Hand-held cams, washed-out visuals. Gritty, and not simply in terms of theme or story. Give me John-Rhys Davies (bald and clean-shaven) as a Moriarty-esque Kingpin acting as the evil behind all evil, and a minion like Mr. Fear or Typhoid Mary. Absolutely out-of-the-box casting, with all character actors and zero big names. And for the love of Christ, no Kevin Smith cameos.
Can someone drink a beer and cheat on their wife as well?
post #25 of 30
My vote is for Rick Remender's FEAR AGENT getting a cinematic treatment. A space opera with a drunken, damaged protagonist. Han Solo by way of Tony Stark.

Brian K. Vaughan's EX MACHINA has potential, but perhaps better served as a cable series. Y THE LAST MAN seems inevitable, but having finished the series, have doubts about Shia LaBeouf. On the surface, he seems the right choice for Yorick, but he hasn't yet shown the gravitas the character requires. Maybe this will be his chance, I dunno.
post #26 of 30
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Add me to the list of folk who want to see a re-launch of Swamp Thing
I was asked recently what comic book characters would be best served by a reboot, and SWAMP THING was the first thing to come to mind. Alan Moore's take on the character could be an amazingly scary and trippy fantasmagoria.

If WATCHMEN does well, I suppose it's possible.
post #27 of 30
i'd like to see DC do a Kingdom Come movie.

You could easily recast superman and batman as they would be much older.

if done right with the right writers and directors, you could have something really great
post #28 of 30
I don't think the average movie goer is familiar enough with the complete DC universe for a Kingdom Come movie to work with anyone outside of comic book geeks personally.
post #29 of 30
I don't think that alternate universe versions of characters people are familiar with is possible just yet. A lot of people would wonder how it fits into the "saga".
post #30 of 30
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I'm reading Y: The Last Man now, and I sort of can, sort of can't see Shia in the Yorick role. I can't think of any other actors for the role off the top of my head now.
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