Batman: Arkham Asylum - Page 9

Its not possible. I put all three shots of explosive gel on there and it wouldnt break.

It's not possible, sadly. Would've been interesting. Did love that cameo, though.

Playing through again quickly on hard, I've grown to laugh at the occasions in which Bats leaves some guards telling them to stay where it's safe, only to come back to find them all dead. Way to keep the body count down, Dark Knight.

Well, I WAS having fun. Seriously, fuck the Bane fight. 10 trys on normal. Might be a game ender for me. I haven't come this close to flnging a controller through my TV in a long time.

I'll probably get over it and keep trying, but ARRRGH. And yeah, I know I suck.

Umm batarang and dodge, that's it. Trust me, you're gonna need to get good at that. Actually Bane is a lot easier than some other things coming up.

Oh and 3rd Scarecrow appearance, actually thought my console was crapping out for a second. AWESOME! (I'm roughly 50% done)

The Bane fight really isn't that hard. Just make sure you have an eye on Bane at all times. The thugs are easy to take out. Just fling a batarang at Bane when it looks like he's going to charge, hit him when he's woozy and get out of there.

From my experience, if the big guys start charging throw a quick batarang without ANY hesitation. The quick batarang tends to go right for the charging big guy every time no matter how many normal guys are around you. You also recover from quick batarang extremely fast so you can counter the normal guys attacks while dodging the charge.

I've managed a 50X but this is the only one I was able to record- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zMFvralp1s

You know what? Fuck the Killer Croc section. Like it's not bad enough that you lead me forfuckingever into those fucking sewers with attacks ever 2 seconds. HEY DARK KNIGHT, HAVE FUN GETTING OUT WITH NO SAVE POINTS. I got halfway out and somehow Croc popped up on a platform right behind me, all the way back to the beginning. Fuck that.

I had the same problem on normal. Then I stopped fighting the thugs, just used evade like a madman and let Bane's charges kill them.

I'm surprised anyone would have so much trouble with Bane. It took me two tries, and that's only because I didn't know the first time that you have to throw batarangs at him as he charges.

So far the only segment that really frustrated me was the fight with the two Titans at once in the Botanical Gardens. Once I figured out it was best to let them wear each other down, I managed to get through it, but it was still the roughest fight.

But ffffffffffffuuuuuuuck that room with the booby trapped gargoyles.

The booby-trapped gargoyles didn't really pose a problem for me. Sure, it was annoying that my normal tactics didn't work, but I just used the top of the building as a base of operations instead of the gargoyles.

For some strange reason, the thing that gave me the most trouble was the "party" entrance with about 15 guys. Sure, I could have just left them alone, but they were just waiting there for Batman to punch them in the face. The tiny room doesn't really let you break them up all that much, so I kept getting cheap shots that I couldn't counter in time (mostly because I was already trying to attack another guy and not paying close enough attention). At least I got the Party Pooper achievement for it when I finally beat them.

I still haven't gotten that far, I'm just now finished with Croc and heading towards Super-Ivy.

You do need to get good at not using Gargoyles for the harder challenge rooms. They rig them all in the "Extreme" challenges. It is hard to get used to, but once you do, you'll be OK. It does make you feel vulnerable not being able to jump up to one. You have to use your gadgets a bit more.

And the Predator challenges each have some fun ways to defeat the henchmen. They don't repeat and they'll get you better at your gadgets.

Game of the Year so far. I like everything about it, as a game and a Batman story. Well, almost everything.

I do need to get better at the stealth segments, I tend to rely too much on the high ground and vantage points.

Still, getting the Rope-A-Dope-A-Dope achievement was pretty hilarious. I did it completely by accident and laughed my ass off.

I think my problem was I was trying the exact opposite strategy. I was trying to take out the thugs first as quickly as possible and Bane would keep charging me or throwing chunks right when I was in the middle of a punch animation. It didn't occur to me to be patient and dodge for five minutes and wait for Bane to kill them all for me. Will give that a try tonight.

Also, when fighting the hulked out Titan enhanced henchmen, use the same batarang trick, wait for them to get stunned, then run up, punch them, and you'll hop on their back for a piggy back ride. The Titans will whip the shit out of the henchmen and each other until you get hit and have to hop off.

There's an achievement for that, too!

Forgot to mention one other thing. I'm playing this game ahead of my son, figuring out which parts are too graphic or too scary for him and then playing through those sections when he gets there. I'm pretty far ahead of him now, but in the section where Batman is trying to track down Dr. Young's formula I wasn't too far ahead. I had fought my way to her office, set my detective vision to track her fingerprints and had stopped playing.

My son was in the library, searches everything like crazy and actually finds and burns the formula without being told that he's looking for it yet. So he got to the 2nd Scarecrow encounter before I did, which I was amazed was even possible to do out of order like that.

Yeah, I thought you absolutely had to get her fingerprints in order to even be able to find the formula. Crazy!

Gonna give that fight with the electrified floors another shot tonight, hopefully I won't suck as bad at it this time. The guys with the shock batons completely screw me over because I keep forgetting to JUMP OVER THEM BECAUSE I AM DUMB.

Those guys aren't as bad as the jackasses on the perimeter who break into the gun lockers and then rape you blind because you're having so much fun trying to chain together combos with the guys near you.

I did the "unblockable takedown" move on a baton guy just to see if it would work. Batman brings him down, snatches the shock baton out of midair and jams it down on the guys chest. It looks so badass.

I'm still trying to get used to the hand to hand, honestly, and I'm merely okay with it at the moment...I think my largest combo so far was a 12. :/

Should I try a challenge room or two to bone up on the fighting?

Yeah, try that first challenge room a few times, you'll start getting the hang of it.

One of the tricks with combat is jumping. Like God of War and rolling, your combat meter (consecutive strikes or whatever) pauses during a jump, so you can keep your meter going by jumping over thugs in-between strike. Youtube can demonstrate the phenomenon with a quick search. Just practice. It's fun anyway.

I really do love the Predator challenge rooms, if only for the medals. You'll learn your gadgets' uses in combat right quick.

haha why does everyone hate the Croc section? It wasn't very long, and it was a neat way of doing that encounter rather than another "Hey, dodge while this guy charges you and then jump on his head!" fight, which is really the only other way to do Croc.

The game forces you to play in certain ways all the way through. You can't do one of the stealth rooms as a brawler. You can't stealth through the Bane fight or the arena combat areas. How is this so dramatically different?

Also, it's super, super easy.

It's a shitty game mechanic. They make you walk slowly under the guise of not attracting Croc's attention. If you actually pay attention, even if you're completely stationary Croc will come out as he's pretty much on a timer and will just charge you repeatedly regardless of what you do. So basically, you aren't allowed to move quickly but the supposed reasoning for that is bullshit.

Croc charging you doesn't always happen at junctions in the sewer. This wouldn't matter much, except that the game isn't smart enough to make sure that you are within line of sight of Croc when he comes up. This means that you are stuck sometimes watching 4 different approach areas where you'd best hope you pick the right intersection because when Croc comes hauling ass around a corner you probably will end up in the drink if you didn't choose right the first time.

You can't consistently use the Bat Line. This would have been a miraculous way to expedite this mind numbing level, but they decided it would be more fun to have Croc jump out in front of you and stop you from utilizing it (even though using the line should keep Croc from knowing where you are because of him supposedly tracking you by the ripples in the water). If anything it's too dangerous to use as you have no control over how close he'll be when he jumps out of the water and risking having to switch to the Batarang isn't the best idea.

After you gather all the spores, there are no save points before getting out. I was less than 200 meters away last night, at a junction where there were 3 paths. I heard Croc, stood watching the 3 paths and then suddenly got sodomized from behind because instead of popping up a path like normal the game decided to let him jump out right behind me. So now I'm supposed to go back to 518 meters way, crawling my way out of the sewer having absolutely no fun?

That's why. Because the level is shit.

Wow, I didn't have any trouble with it at all. The only confusion I had was that I kept thinking at the beginning I was supposed to lure Croc to that pit before finding the spores. Beyond that, it was a pretty brisk, simple level.

Whether you had trouble or not, there was nothing "brisk" about this level.

What could it take you, 15 minutes to beat? Have you been trying to walk really slowly and not just crouching? You move at a fast clip while crouching and only get bothered by croc a few times, and it's never hard to find out where he's coming from. Or do you somehow not know how to just tap the left trigger to chuck a batarang at him when he charges? It's a really simple section that changes up the gameplay nicely... it's pretty amusing that it's tripping you all up.

Opposite for me. I found the party entrance, and most of the combat sequences, fairly simple (I got pretty good at Ninja Gaiden, and comparatively the combat here isn't so bad). But I lost count how many times I had to do that room with the booby-trapped gargoyles. Another one that took me forever was the room where I needed to deactivate the third pump.

I don't think I understand how best to make use of the sonic batarang. And I only just realized (via a youtube video) that you can use the zipline gadget to knockdown enemies.

It took me probably 30 minutes just to gather all the spores. 30 agonizing minutes. I've been crouch walking, but not quickly. That's probably my fault, paying attention to the guidelines given to me by the game. Croc pops up on average I'd say just less than once per intersection. I'm very well aware of the quick left trigger for batarang use but when you don't know which direction he's coming from (like the examples I gave earlier where he's not in line of sight) that's little help.

Of course, I'd point out that you two are the exceptions to the rule saying that this is "brisk" or "changes up the gameplay nicely". Take a look around the internet, the level is pretty widely reviled. It's not fun and it's the only mis-step that I feel like the game has really made so far.

You can use almost all of the gadgets to take out bad guys. durvasa, there is a Challenge mode in that room (third pump room) with rigged gargoyles. You get used to not using the gargoyles. They are initially hard, but once you realize all the ways you can use the batgrapple, line launcher, remote batarang, explosive gel, etc - you can fuck up armed henchmen pretty easy.

Once the guys are on edge, they usually only send one guy to check on the sonic batarang. Bingo. Later (with the upgrade, you can use it to fry one guy per room). Look at the medals for the predator challenges (pull down walls on a guy, pull guys off a ledge, hit two or three guys with a single remote batarang, do a takedown while hanging from a ledge, etc). It takes a while to get familiar with the gadgets (I didn't do so until the challenge rooms, can't wait for a replay with the knowledge), but boy is it worth it.

Does the sonic batarang completely knock people out in challenge rooms too? All I could manage was to knock them down but they stayed conscious and got back up.

I just got to the Extreme challenges and you're absolutely right about how many ways there are to get around when you cant use the gargoyles. A lot of the side paths I had no idea about until I was forced to try new things.

Anyone know about any videos of those ultra high score combat challenge rooms? I wanna see how the hell you get 60k in the first challenge room.

It's all about variety. Use all those takedown moves, use the batarang, use the ground takedown, use everything you got. You can get 4-5 thousand just as a bonus that way. Don't get hit and you get 500, beat them all with one move and you get a thousand. It's pretty damn hard but not impossible.

Beat the game, was a little shorter than I thought. Batman flying to Gotham seems to make me think of the possibilities of the next one.

I just hope, like mentioned before, they can expand the options on how to take on various characters as opposed to forcing you play the way its meant to. Sucks (minor quible) that we got options on how to take out some thugs, but not the bosses.

Oh well, Batman and Joker challenge room time.

edit: I liked how the Batcave looked, hope Nolan took some advice.

Beat it last night (but only with 81%, so I'm not done). Awful, AWFUL final boss, easily the worst part of the game. Such a great opportunity to do a boss fight that didn't revolve around beating somebody up wasted, but oh well. Great game, overall. Got that 40-hit Freeflow achievement in the Visitor Center.

Now to get 100% and then beat it on Hard.

Got past Bane in one shot. I must have just been sleepy or something when I had all that trouble. The love affair is back on. However...

I've come to really hate the lack of a manual save. I'm not sure how much progress I lost last night when I had to quit unexpectedly. Grrr.

You won't lose much. The autosave is pretty damned liberal.

I beat the game last night and I believe I was at 77% so I have a decent amount to go back and do. I'd gotten all of the Riddler maps for the outside areas and completed everything there so it's time to go back in the buildings and finish up the things I'd missed in each area. It's kind of silly how late they give you that Super Bathook though.

It's not like you really need it for anything aside from two rooms and the final boss fight.

I needed it to satisfy my OCD with Riddler Trophies.

Well you can do that afterwards. That's how these games work, you get abilities according to when you'll need them to progress in the storyline. It's sort of silly that Batman waits until Ivy is nearly destroying the island before deciding to put together his super grapple that was lying around in the Batcave, but oh well. Some concessions must be made to game design.

I'd probably be much further in this game if my 360 wouldn't keep telling me the disc is dirty every few minutes. This is the only game it does this on and it even did it on the demo which is strange. I'm thinking the hard drive may be corrupt which makes me ask if I bought a new hard drive and transferred everything would that work or would the first one being corrupt effect the second. Sorry for the derail but I just want to play this damn game for more than 4 minutes because it's a really good game so far.

Also, does anybody find it odd how long Batman stares at his new toys when he gets them? Even after you press A to move on, Batman's like "Nah, I'm not done yet" and just keeps staring at it lovingly.

You know what, if I built a super grapple gun out of what looked like a few cans of Red Bull and a paperclip, I'd be pretty pleased with myself as well.

I don't think it's your hard drive. I have the game for the PS3 and it freezes on me constantly. Even the demo froze on me every so often. I've been reading around the net that lots of people are having the same problems. The freezing got so bad for me that it would happen as soon as I started playing. Every time. I ended up having to do a system restore on my PS3 so I could even play it again. And even then, it still freezes up occasionally. I think there's something wonky in the game code.

That was kind of the thing, after he saw Joker gas the first time, why didn't he just call the bat-wing and get it to deliver a gas mask?

Because he's Batman.

heh then i feel sorry for you when you get to the scarecrow the 3rd tme