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post #1 of 101
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I saw this post from dynamotv in the Clone Wars thread and it's inspired this topic:

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I think you're being too tough on Drew McWeeney. It's true that Clone Wars review read like a guy who's hormones are off but I'm willing to believe there might be some other shit in the mix we don't know about. Plus Mori's a big time Star Wars fanboy. I think all of us have one property we're a little gay over. For me it's SW, for Mori it's SW, and for Devin it's Harry Potter. So if he gets a little emotional about the whole embargo thing, then so be it.
...which inspires me to ask - what's your franchise? The one thats closer to you heart than any other?

I was a Star Wars kid like most of my generation, I was an Indy one as well (because how can a boy born in '76 with a dad in love with adventure films not be?) and those films will always be very close to my heart as a consequence.

I'm even a massive fan of the entire Matrix Saga as the depth of all the philosophical and spiritual layering along with the amazing action and visuals that truly were the epitome of 'live-action manga' the Wachowskis blended together, I simply adore.

But from the age of 9, sitting down for the first time to a little book called The Hobbit, there has only been one fantastical world and story that has been closer to my heart than any other.

Yep, Im a Tolkienite and proud. As a younger man when my passion was to become a famous movie maker, up until 1998 my life dream was to adapt The Lord of the Rings to the screen 'and do it properly'; three films, giving the story the gravitas it deserved, treating it like the alternate mythical history it was written as - "The Godfather of fantasy if you do it right' was how I used to refer to it.

Then one of my favourite kiwi b-movie directors got the gig out of nowhere.

I'll be honest, at first I was devestated, simply because I saw my shot at adapting the tale disappear whether this film series ended up bombing or being a classic - and as silly as it seems now, plenty of people were incredibly worried (Zac Snyder doing Watchmen-style) about this unknown, untested Jackson guy tackling the holy grail of epic fantasy adventure tales.

Then I read an interview with Jackson, then heard he had hired two of my favourite Tolkien artists in Alan Lee and John Howe to design the look of the film, then another bit of news and another and another.

I was backpacking around Europe while all this was happening, and I'd started sourcing and pricing tickets to go to New Zealand and offer myself up to Jackson and co. in whatever working capacity they'd have me. Unfortunately (to a degree, because I spent the next 12 months having the time of my life), the trip to NZ wasn't doable, but finally, after following every bit of information leading up to the film, I sat down to it on Boxing Day 2001.

I had always said "If I can't make these films, I only ask they could be made as good or better as I would make them", and sitting down to FOTR for the first time, I simply sat in awe of the near-3 hours as it unspooled before me.

Now, many have waxed lyrical about Jacksons take on the "unfilmable" Lord of the Rings, but as the next two years happened and I got to enjoy each new installment, and then finally the extended saga in full, I can honestly say no film series has hit me deeper and on more levels than that one.

Perfectly capturing the spirit of the originals, while still working completely as films in their own right, the films work for me on so many levels, nostalgic, geeky, emotional, epic, as adaptations, as a inematic tale in its own right, that I very much doubt I'll have as profound an emotional reaction to a film series - a reaction I still have when I sit down to watch the extended saga one every 1.5 to 2 years to this day - ever again.

In fact Nicks reviews of the three films mirrored mine almost to a "T" back in the day



So, your turn - what film franchise gets you sweatier tan any other?
post #2 of 101
The Rain Dog, I have multiple favorite franchises. They Are...
1) The Star Wars Saga (Includes GT's Clone Wars shorts and The CGI Clone Wars.
2) Star Trek (The Original Series, The Animated Series, films 1-6, and Deep Space Nine, Maybe JJ Abrams new film).
3) James Bond (The only Bond films I dislike are...From Russia With Love, and A View To A Kill
4) Godzilla (A fan of the 50's-80's Godzilla as well as Ryuhei Kitamura's Godzilla Final Wars.
5) G.I. Joe A Real American Hero (all 155 issues of Larry Hama's comic, the series G.I. Joe A Real American Hero. I am looking forward to Warren Ellis' G.I. Joe Resolute web series and Stephen Sommers G.I. Joe.
post #3 of 101
Mine's probably STAR WARS. What a headfuck when the villain couldn't be defeated by violent action in ROTJ, like pretty much any other villain in the movies I watched. Hell, you could say that 8-year-old me was already pretty blown away by the mere fact that ANH is a movie in which the bad guy doesn't die.

I was 14 when TPM came out and it took a while for it to sink in that hey, maybe these new ones ain't that good as I thought. I'm glad CRYSTAL SKULL came out at a time where critical thought was already a possibility in my brain, because I'm sure that one would have taken me a good few years to cave in to as well.

Awful thing is, LOTR pretty much destroyed SW in my opinion, but as a very, very sexless teenager, I was hostile towards it. I knew it was better in my heart of hearts, but I wanted the prequels to have the critical success LOTR achieved. So I was just super dismissive about them anytime someone mentioned them in conversation.

I haven't watched a movie of either series in a while (although I did watch all three prequels a month or two ago in a drunken, drug-fueled stupor) because franchises that are "yours" really, really need to spend long times in hibernation between viewings.

Oh wait EVIL DEAD that's still cool right? And although 2 is the best one, I suppose, ARMY is by far my personal favourite. I love how shitty those skeletons look.
post #4 of 101
I would also consider putting The Punisher as one of my favorite franchises but...still waiting on Punisher War Zone, to see how epic, it might be, before adding it to this list. The Punisher has had a great Capcom arcade game (1991) where he teams up with Nick Fury Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D to stop the rampaging Kingpin of crime from taking over New York City. It is a side scrolling beat em up, and there are plenty of weapons ranging from M-60's, to M-16s with grenade launchers, to knives, swords, axes etc. There was also a great nintendo game mimicing Operation Wolf in the mid 80's. The Punisher also has many years of fantastic comics, showing why Frank Castle, Marvel's one man army, is till punishing Criminal Scum 34 years after his debut as a villain in a Spider Man Comic.
post #5 of 101
Quit fucking around Faraci... we all know that you post as Duke Fleed as some kind of fanboy parody. Its not funny anymore.
post #6 of 101
I guess, over the years, I've learned that there is no such thing as a "franchise" that I can really call "mine", at least, not so far as movies go. A movie is "mine" when it pleases me, heart and soul, and a "franchise" is mine only when it produces several movies that please me heart and soul, which is something I never ever expect from a movie "franchise". It's impossible for the widely differing writers, directors, SFX teams, to produce a consistent product.

I remember when I heard about Empire Strikes back, and figured it was just going to be a cheap ripoff-cash-in of Star Wars, and being blown away when it turned out to be as good, or even better. Then, and only then, did I believe a movie franchise that could be mine was possible. But that ended when Return of the Jedi cocked the whole thing up. But I've seen all the special editions and prequels, although the prequels just confirmed what Jedi had told me. Still, Star Wars and Empire make that franchise Mine just because they were so awesome, and suggest such a Universe of other stories (that alas, were never told in the same spirit).

I was willing to watch another Alien movie, hoping that we'd see Aliens come to a futuristic Earth, but what I got was an extensively researched and augmented retread of ALIEN. It may be a fun retread, into which a lot of thought and effort was put, but it was still a retread. But, again, I seem to have seen all the Alien movies over time (thought I was dragged to see AvP). I guess I can't say this is a franchise I can call "Mine" at all, since I only consider Alien to be the only real movie in the bunch (though the new one, Requiem, did capture a bit of that sense of horror).

Same with Terminator. The first one was good, who needed anything more?

I guess the "franchises" that seem to have given me the most consistent pleasure are the low budget made-for-TV ones. Star Trek is inconsistent, but manages to please at it's high points. Voyager I found especially pleasurable, but Enterprise proved the ROTJ phenomenon. You can't expect consistency out of a source that juggles talent around as if the talent was interchangeable and unimportant. TV shows have the longest run of consistency for their 7 year syndication-numbers lifetimes. I guess that now I'd say Star Trek is "mine", but there are so many giant chunks of "whatever" in there, like much of Next Generation's and DS9's runs.

I guess there is one franchise that I consider "mine", becase I like it even when the quality is inconsistent. Stargate. I hated the movie, (but loved the costumes and sets and concept) hated the start of the series, but fell in love with it, and I like the sequel series, Stargate Atlantis, whenever I've seen it. It's comfort sci-fi, like Voyager was. Sometimes you just love something, no matter what, and there's no reasoning with you about it.
post #7 of 101
Evil Dead- Something so wonderful about seeing a blue collar slob standing up and killing people he loves becasue he had too.

Star Wars. Every Christmas USA would show Empire and Jedi and I always loved it
post #8 of 101
For me it was the Highlander series. Now I'll admit that the films were heavily flawed, but there were certain elements of it that struck me as a child.

The swordfights. The Scottish landscapes. The Queen soundtrack.

My teenage years were loaded with Highlander stuff.

The first Highlander film I saw was Part 2: The Quickening. It was interesting in a goofy kind of way. I didn't consider it part of the Highlander continuity. But it has loads of interesting bits with Michael Ironside and Sean Connery.

Further there was the TV series, the Highlander: Raven spinoff and the animated series in the late 90's. Now if you hated the movies, I strongly suggest you give the Adrian Paul TV Series is try. The plotting and swordfights here are loads better.
post #9 of 101
For 30 years or so, Planet of the Apes.

Until last year, Romero's Dead films. Still a great trilogy.

As an adult, the Bond flicks.
post #10 of 101
Aliens. AvP films excluded.
post #11 of 101
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Aliens. AvP films excluded.
Including Jeunets installment?
post #12 of 101
While the Lord of the Rings film are inarguably better in every single meaningful way, I have to say Star Wars. Being 8 when the first film came out put me right in its wheelhouse, and then when Empire followed it? Holy crap, it was love. And sure, looking back now Jedi was a disappointment, but to my 14-year old eyes it was a suitably grand finale.
post #13 of 101
Thing is, ROTJ has a great finale. It just isn't one.
post #14 of 101
Considering that I was born in 1970, 'Star Wars' will always be the franchise that I grew up with. For many years, SW played an integral part of my life.

Now...warts and all, I have to go with the 'Highlander' series. It's a very punishing experience to be a Highlander fan, but there it is.
post #15 of 101
Fuck it, I'll go with Pirates, I don't care that alot of it doesn't make sense, especially the third movie but the mix of fantasy, swashbuckling adventure is just so much fun.
post #16 of 101
Except for a STAR WARS childhood, never been invested enough in a Franchise to call it my own. Wish I was.
post #17 of 101
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Now...warts and all, I have to go with the 'Highlander' series. It's a very punishing experience to be a Highlander fan, but there it is.
You're not alone. Highlander: The Source sure strained even die-hard fan's patience.

I only consider the first Pirates flcik worth watching. Parts 2 and 3 are overbloated messes (Especially 3). What's the point of introducing the Brethjerens Court if they are going to wuss out in the finale?
post #18 of 101
Star Wars first. I went totally nuts over it when it was first released.

But the biggie is and will likely always be the Bond series. I have no earthly idea why, but from the first time I saw one on ABC's Sunday Night movie broadcast I have been enraptured by those films. Seeing Goldfinger for the first time as a kid pretty much did me in.
post #19 of 101
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Including Jeunets installment?
Yep.

Don't get me wrong, it's not great - but it's not offensive either. Wrong tone, chalky screenplay - but visually great and some really camped up performances.

If you're going to do it wrong, do it wrong with Ron Perlman on board.

Both AvPs are trainwrecks on every level.
post #20 of 101
I'll put Die Hard on my list too.
post #21 of 101
Indiana Jones trilogy for me (what, there was a fourth?) with Star Wars a close second. Raiders is the ultimate 12 year-old boy movie and that's how old I was when it came out. It pushed all the right buttons and I knew it would be my favorite movie character ever.
post #22 of 101
I'll have to go with Indiana Jones (apparently first in this thread?? what's up with that). Saw Raiders when I was 11 when it was re-run in our local cinema a couple o'months before Temple came out. Up till then, I'd seen only a couple of snippits on tv, and it seemed like this mythical movie you couldn't believe existed somewhere (this seems a weird notion these days of internet exposure). When I saw it, blew my mind. Esp the facemelting finale, that left me shook up for days, the idea of it, and the notion that somebody actually filmed it. I was there on opening day for Temple, and a couple of years later, it made me enjoy Crusade far more than I should have.
Of course I was into Star Wars too, and had a fair amount of the toys- but mainly because Indy didn't have that kind of merchandise (at least not over here in Europe).
This year I made what I feel was the right decision: skipping on Crystal Skull in cinemas as to not risk it tainting the nostalgic love I still have for Indy.
post #23 of 101
Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and The Matrix are my film geek Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
post #24 of 101
HALLOWEEN for me, no matter how many bad sequels or remakes are out there. That's a long standing love, from a young age when I saw the original dozens of times with my sisters.

I can admit HALLOWEEN 5 and 6 are pretty much terrible but I still love them to bits.

Was tempted to say FRIDAY THE 13TH but Michael wins out.
post #25 of 101
Back to the Future, then Indiana Jones, then maybe Star Trek.
post #26 of 101
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Originally Posted by felix natalya View Post
For me it was the Highlander series. Now I'll admit that the films were heavily flawed, but there were certain elements of it that struck me as a child.

The swordfights. The Scottish landscapes. The Queen soundtrack.

Further there was the TV series, the Highlander: Raven spinoff and the animated series in the late 90's. Now if you hated the movies, I strongly suggest you give the Adrian Paul TV Series is try. The plotting and swordfights here are loads better.
That was another TV series I kinda liked, late night, after midnight, no guilt about wasting my time. Charactrers likeable, Big Sword, a head gets chopped off at the end of each episode. What's not to love?

The RAVEN series was awful. And I so wanted to love it. All it had to do was have this girl be competent, kick ass, and chop a head off at the end of each episode. WHY did they mess with that formula? WHY did they think they needed a hunky cop sidekick to constantly rescue miss Immortal-But-Clueless?
What a waste.
post #27 of 101
Superman, Superman II and Superman Returns.
post #28 of 101
I'd have to say Batman is the ultimate franchise with some current devotion given to Doctor Who.
post #29 of 101
6) The X-Men (which includes...The X-Men Trilogy, Chris Claremont's 17 year run at Marvel comics, Fox Kids X-Men The Animated Series, and I am eagerly awaiting Wolverine And The X-Men the new animated series and the dtv Hulk Vs Wolverine which also includes...Hulk invading Asgard and fighting Thor and friends in the city over the rainbow bridge.
7) Indiana Jones (it was higher, but there is the awful Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade to live down. Thankfully Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull is so much better than Indy 3 on all levels.
8) Batman (a huge list including...The Dark Knight, Batman Begins, Batman The Animated Series, Batman Gotham Knight, Tim Burton's Batman and Batman Returns, Batman as portrayed in other animated properties Justice League: New Frontier and Justice League Unlimited.
9) Conan The Barbarian (Robert E Howards stories, Marvel and Dark Horse comics, and of course the not 100% faithful to REH...Conan The Barbarian Film by John Milius. Sure CTB is fantastic, but Conan should be intelligent as well as brutal.
10) The Lethal Weapon Quadrillogy.
11) The Terminator Franchise (includes...The first 2 films, Robocop Vs Terminator comics, T2 The Arcade Game (a Light gun shooter.), and hopefully Terminator Salvation as well as a potential trilogy of Science Fiction War.
12) The Punisher
13) Go Nagai's Super Robot Anime ( Including...Ufo Robot Grendizer, Getter Robo, Getter Robo G, Venger Robo Manga, Getter Robo Armageddon (sequel to all previous Getter Robo episodes and Manga, Mazinger Z, Great Mazinger, and Mazinkaiser.) There are simply too many other super robot series created by Nagai to list them all.
post #30 of 101
Emmanuelle and then Star Wars.
post #31 of 101
Batman, Spider-man

Aliens, Mad Max

Nightmare On Elm Street, Halloween

Indy, Bond

Popeye's, Burger King
post #32 of 101
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HALLOWEEN for me, no matter how many bad sequels or remakes are out there. That's a long standing love, from a young age when I saw the original dozens of times with my sisters.

I can admit HALLOWEEN 5 and 6 are pretty much terrible but I still love them to bits.

Was tempted to say FRIDAY THE 13TH but Michael wins out.

I actually WILL say Friday the 13th. I love them all, even the ones i hate. I own them all, even the ones i hate. I am so angry at myself for dying to see the new one since i think the people behind it royally screwed up TCM. But Friday the 13th has just been this series of films since day one, that I just can't get enough of. Not that there aren't much better movies, but i love my retarded child.
post #33 of 101
I doubt I'll ever understand the love for LotR or Star Wars, or even the Matrix trilogy.

Quick question, are we essentially admitting the films in which we turn off our critical side or is this a new breed of the 'Favourite Films' genus?

As a kid/teenager I adored the Nightmare On Elm Street films I must have watch all of them at least half a dozen times between the ages of 12 and 15. They and the Evil Dead films were the ultimate party film for me, I'd get some friends around we'd sneak some booze and just enjoy the gore and brutality. Oddly the film which snapped me out of this was the Scream trilogy which sort of took over that mantle for a while.

I'm also a massive, massive, Batman fan (while to be honest I'm more of a Joker fan so the two are interchangable) and as such I enjoy Batman '89 and Returns despite their obvious flaws.

I used to be a fan of Bond, but I sort of got over that and I've just cherry picked the films I can deal with.
post #34 of 101
I guess I'm fickle, because there are many franchises that I used to love that I've faded on:

Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back...ROTJ was the dealbreaker for me

James Bond: Used to love the shit out of all of them until Living Daylights: never caught License to Kill, and though I've got most of the DVDs, I only watch the Connery Bonds on occasion. Oddly, I've become a huge fan of the Ian Fleming novels.

Babylon 5: Saw the first movie, dropped out, then started watching with Season 2 up to the end of season 4. Loved every minute of it. Watched the DVD series 10-12 times. Have not been able to watch it since (the writing, acting and production values really do not stand up to repeated viewings).

Also was a huge Dr Who fan back in the day: Like but do not love the new series.

As you might guess from my "Internet name" the new Battlestar Galactica is the closest I've come to have a franchise I'd say is "mine" . Have the DVDs and the soundtracks. Saw Razor in the theaters (thanks CHUD!).

EDITED TO ADD: The Godzilla films. Loved them as a kid, love them as an adult: can't really defend them as cinma (except for Gojira).
post #35 of 101
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Batman, Spider-man

Aliens, Mad Max

Nightmare On Elm Street, Halloween

Indy, Bond

Popeye's, Burger King
Burger King? God man, why?
post #36 of 101
Lethal Weapon. They're all great. Every Goddamned one.
post #37 of 101
Pierre Woddman, Terminator, Batman and Alien.
post #38 of 101
Terminator
Matrix
Alien
post #39 of 101
Can't say what it says about me, but I'll always show up for a new Godzilla film. I love kaiju even though I can barely rewatch most of the recent stuff in the big G series. I used to read G-fan magazine, but I couldn't stand those guys after awhile (they're a little too serious about it for my tastes). Ultraman (less so) and Gamera (more so) usually merit a viewing with new installments.
post #40 of 101
It's hard for me to latch onto a franchise because all of them inevitably turn out one bad film that mars the whole experience. That said, the Lord of the Rings films were pretty thoroughly decent, though the first one is still the best one. I'm too burned out on Lord of the Rings to watch it again, though.
post #41 of 101
The Thin Man series.
post #42 of 101
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Burger King? God man, why?
Whopper w/cheese.

I'm more surprised no one questioned my love of Popeye's.
post #43 of 101
The Pusher trilogy for me.

followed by

Rambo (3 not included)
Back to the Future
Indiana Jones
Rocky
Batman (Begins and TDK)
Star Wars
post #44 of 101
I think it should go without saying that all franchises have their weak entries. You don't have to qualify it by cherry picking.

Like, I'm not crazy about Burger King's fries, but they're still my favorite burger franchise. Damn good chicken sandwiches though.
post #45 of 101
I'd agree with Doctor Who, above, but not as a film franchise. Always been a fan of the series, though.

Otherwise, I've never really got into franchises- I tend to fix on directors instead of series. I do take a certain guilty pleasure in the Phantasm films, but I'd be unlikely to try defending them after the first.

That said, if Hellboy somehow manages to become a franchise, consider me on board.
post #46 of 101
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Originally Posted by Xagarath Ankor View Post

That said, if Hellboy somehow manages to become a franchise, consider me on board.
Hellboy has movies, comics, toys, games, etc. It's a franchise.
post #47 of 101
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Originally Posted by Aquafresh View Post
Whopper w/cheese.

I'm more surprised no one questioned my love of Popeye's.
Popeye's is above question. Church's not so much.
post #48 of 101
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Originally Posted by Justin Clark View Post
Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and The Matrix are my film geek Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Yeah. This goes for me as well.
post #49 of 101
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The RAVEN series was awful. And I so wanted to love it. All it had to do was have this girl be competent, kick ass, and chop a head off at the end of each episode. WHY did they mess with that formula? WHY did they think they needed a hunky cop sidekick to constantly rescue miss Immortal-But-Clueless?
What a waste.
I've to admit though that RAVEN did get a little bit better in the 2nd half of the series (When they moved to Paris). They even brought back Jim Brynes as Joe Dawson. A nice shout out to the existing Highlander continuity.
post #50 of 101
Deathwish.
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