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post #101 of 718
What is all this talk that everyone is making about Hunnam's accent??
post #102 of 718
It wobbles, at least in the first 2 episodes.

The creator Kurt Sutter comments on ratings:

http://sutterink.blogspot.com/
post #103 of 718
That many rounds being fired in broad daylight with only like 3 people getting hit was a little hard to swallow. Sort of worth it for Karnes' reaction though.

Dug all the "Patched Over" ceremony stuff along with Coates reaction to showing up post-Patch Over Party.

"That's Before."
post #104 of 718
I liked the drugging the dog with crank bit.

Also, I'm gonna guess Agent Kohn is the one who Maggie Siff's character put the restraining order on.
post #105 of 718
They basically stated as such last week.

Here's how I see Karnes' character playing out. He'll get real close to being able to bust the club and then will be killed by the doctor who'll need the club's help to cover it up, or he'll be killed by Katey Segal (in order to protect her boys) who will make it look like the doctor did it.
post #106 of 718
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Originally Posted by Moltisanti View Post
They basically stated as such last week.
Really? I guess I missed that part. I only caught Karnes at the end with "guns and bad guys" bit.
post #107 of 718
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Really? I guess I missed that part. I only caught Karnes at the end with "guns and bad guys" bit.
Yea, it was Karnes' first scene in the show, where Siff's character answers the phone and Karnes' says something about her ducking his phone calls, then she hangs up on him.
post #108 of 718
Can't really blame Dutch for stalking Siff. I thought she looked good on Mad Men, but it's a new level of hotness on SoA. Liked the bit of whale tail when she got out of the car...

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That many rounds being fired in broad daylight with only like 3 people getting hit was a little hard to swallow. Sort of worth it for Karnes' reaction though.
My first thought was that they were pretty bad shots because of the partying the night before, but the other side was just as bad. The only way they hit anybody was spray & pray with the automatic...

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"That's Before."
Who the hell sits on another person's bike, especially a Harley?! Is anyone really that stupid, especially someone who rides a bike?
post #109 of 718
Yeah, I don't see Karnes arc on this show ending well.

Best episode yet, as far as I'm concerned. Loved Clay's revenge on the prospect. Kim Coates great as always, "Let me put my balls in your mouth then we'll be best friends." Something like that.

The shootout didn't really bother me, it seems like nobody was really trying to kill anybody else anyway.
post #110 of 718
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Originally Posted by WayDen View Post
Can't really blame Dutch for stalking Siff. I thought she looked good on Mad Men, but it's a new level of hotness on SoA. Liked the bit of whale tail when she got out of the car...
All the women on this show are hot, and can act too. If you have no reason to watch this show, watch it for that.
post #111 of 718
Really good episode, aside from the "we just exchanged several hundred rounds of ammo at point blank range and there was exactly one wounded man down at the end." That was just silly.
post #112 of 718
They might as well have played the A-Team theme during that shootout for all the damage they did.
post #113 of 718
Earlier I said the shootout didn't bother me, and really I guess I let it slide, since the rest of the episode was so good. But a couple of things:

Yes, there should have been more damage, considering some of the Samcro guys took the awesome tactical stance of walking down the street, Res Dogs style, firing their guns. I suppose they thought that their sense of cool was good enough cover.

It looked like one of the Mayans went down, but I guess it was just a flesh wound, I don't remember seeing a body on the street, or anybody scrambling to grab a fallen comrade.

Didn't the leader of the Tribe go down? Isn't that who Jacks ran to drag to cover? Because in the next scene, he is without a scratch.

So, yeah, I rescind my words, pretty sloppy shootout, fellas. Hope they don't continue down the action without ramifications route, because until then the show's been pretty good about dealing with the darker side of things, like murder and mayhem.

Or, maybe all the meth and pussy makes you heal faster. Kim Coates seemed to recover from that ass bite pretty quickly.
post #114 of 718
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Didn't the leader of the Tribe go down? Isn't that who Jacks ran to drag to cover? Because in the next scene, he is without a scratch.
No, he got hit in the arm.
post #115 of 718
There was one other SAMCRO guy who went down but I couldn't tell who, must have been one of the newbies.

That was the only gripe I had with last night's (well, aside from no Mitch Pileggi or Tommy Flanagan). Other than that it was great.
post #116 of 718
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No, he got hit in the arm.
I will definitely take your word for it, but I didn't see any bandages and he kept hugging everybody, showing no signs of discomfort. Guess he's just tough.
post #117 of 718
I think the biggest reason the shoot out is such a huge glaring problem is this is F/X. The channel that brings us The Shield, Nip/Tuck, Rescue Me...and they're afraid to let some bikers get shot?
post #118 of 718
The axe to the head a few eps. back was pretty brutal. I don't think the censorship had anything to do with the shootout. I think part of the problem is they built it up so much that by the time it happened it just seemed kind of lame (and I too was reminded of Reservoir Dogs when I saw the three of them just walking forward firing). When you have a shootout in The Wire it's not really surprising when no one gets shot because the people doing the shooting don't exactly have weapons training, and kind of spray fire in all directions, but in this show I think members of the SOA are supposed to be at least somewhat competent in the handling/firing of their weapons and hitting the target.

The scene isn't all that bad, it just kind of sticks out because the rest of the episode is so good.
post #119 of 718
I think it's more sloppy writing than anything else, which does stick out in what I think was the first episode since the pilot to really advance the story in a meaningful way.

What I mean is they seemed to think they needed a big action beat, but realized that lots of dead bodies, on either side, especially with an ATF agent watching, would have totally complicated matters, or at least tied up some story time that I don't think they were prepared to deal with.

Local cops in your pocket or not, you just can't have ten dead bodies on a highway without taking some major time to deal with it, not if you're even remotely going for a realistic setting.

I will overlook it, but it was definitely sloppy.
post #120 of 718
I agree. They could easily have had the actors duck behind shit and then bolt when one or two got wounded. This would have made the shootout seem more tactical and intense, rather than sloppy. Such a small thing.
post #121 of 718
Great Episode really. Lame shootout aside, the politics of the clubs were really interesting.
post #122 of 718
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Great Episode really. Lame shootout aside, the politics of the clubs were really interesting.
Agreed. Hopefully that sort of misstep won't be normal for this show because everything else so far has been solid.

They finally threw in some good shots of the guys riding their bikes and the "before and after" scene helped show they actually give a shit about them. It's starting to feel more like a show about a biker gang, rather than some leather clad white gang in a small town.
post #123 of 718
The interaction between the two girls was really interesting. Especially how the blonde gal just kind of ran with everything the other girl was saying, and questioned it a bit, but didn't seem too bothered. I mean, you just met this biker guy, and now you're seeing they want to make you their property? I don't know, maybe if we knew a little more than her boyfriend had hit her it would have made more sense.

Oh, and echo the love for the cranked up dog.
post #124 of 718
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The interaction between the two girls was really interesting. Especially how the blonde gal just kind of ran with everything the other girl was saying, and questioned it a bit, but didn't seem too bothered. I mean, you just met this biker guy, and now you're seeing they want to make you their property? I don't know, maybe if we knew a little more than her boyfriend had hit her it would have made more sense.

Oh, and echo the love for the cranked up dog.
I'm assuming she was meant to be the girl who was always attracted to the "bad boy" image like her poser boyfriend, but once she met someone who lived that life for real and wasn't full of shit she got scared and went running back to the boyfriend. Some women are like that, and don't even mind being made "property" as long as you're attractive and they think they'll be set for life eventually. These women of course tend to be young, stupid and naive.
post #125 of 718
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I'm assuming she was meant to be the girl who was always attracted to the "bad boy" image like her poser boyfriend, but once she met someone who lived that life for real and wasn't full of shit she got scared and went running back to the boyfriend. Some women are like that, and don't even mind being made "property" as long as you're attractive and they think they'll be set for life eventually. These women of course tend to be young, stupid and naive.

That's exactly what she was. She was willing to play along as long as all she had to do was hang out with badboys and party, but the second the shit hit the fan she realized she didn't want any part of it.

Re: The shootout. It didn't bother me that much. I took it as a fight between two groups that didn't really want one, at least at that time. The walking while shooting was goofy, but the quick end and sloppiness of it I chalk up to the suddeness with which it all went down.
post #126 of 718
Holy shit what a stupid fucking place for a commercial break. Right when he starts kicking that guys ass in the gym. I thought my TV cut out for a second.
post #127 of 718
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Holy shit what a stupid fucking place for a commercial break. Right when he starts kicking that guys ass in the gym. I thought my TV cut out for a second.
The fight wasn't really the point, as it turned out. But holy crap, was that guy dumb to think SAMCRO would forgive and forget. Should've got that tat blacked out, fella.

And poor Chucky and his CMD. After being handed off to the Chinese he's probably jerked for the last time.
post #128 of 718
Yea, in retrospect it wasn't that bad, but it just felt awkward while I was watching, made even worse by the 4 seconds of black before the commercials picked up. Seriously thought my satellite lost the signal right in that spot. I think this show continues to improve, though. I really like Karnes' character, and the way they are kind of slowly developing him over the season.
post #129 of 718
It was a bad cut to commercial, it's sort of the one weakness F/X has when compared to HBO and Showtime and it really stuck out at that point in the show.

But with that quibble aside it was another good hour of television. Dude who got burned was the same guy with the flamethrower who caught fire in WINDTALKERS. Man is quite flammable.

I think I would have chosen the knife option. It would take longer than the flame but in the long run wouldn't it heal up a little better? Either way you're probably not gonna go tanning at the beach but cuts sound more appealing than being all burned up back there.

The show is really doing a good job of mixing the drama with a mean comedic streak.

"Too soon for that joke?"
post #130 of 718
I have no idea what the knife option would entail, but I can't imagine it's worse than requiring skin grafts and being in a burn unit for quite awhile.

I'm interested to see where the Opie storyline goes. His wife got the message, but I sincerenly doubt that's the end of it.

Also, Karnes basically saying "Fuck your restraining order, I've got Federal jurisdiction" was delightfully slimey and creepy.
post #131 of 718
Obviously you wouldn't want anyone hacking off chunks of your flesh but if it had to happen, the back wouldn't be such a bad spot. Again, only if it truly has to happen like in the scenario presented to us this evening.
post #132 of 718
And much like the fire option, you would probably pass about half through from the pain any way.
post #133 of 718
I'd take fire over someone peeling off the entirety of my back with their buck knife. Although, when they headed into the shop I was expecting the belt sander to come out.

Liked Karnes's few scenes, creepily peering in on Jax and his kid.
post #134 of 718
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I'd take fire over someone peeling off the entirety of my back with their buck knife. Although, when they headed into the shop I was expecting the belt sander to come out.

Liked Karnes's few scenes, creepily peering in on Jax and his kid.
I too expected a sander. Jesus, though, that blowtorch tat removal was making me squirm.

Pretty good episode. Karnes' ingratiating himself into the town is nice.

Chronic masturbator got what he deserved.
post #135 of 718
"Jerky, jerky man!"
post #136 of 718
Clay greased her with counterfeit bills. That's great.

Thought that part was turning into a John Pinette routine at one point, "You go now!"
post #137 of 718
I have to disagree. I thought the jump to commercial during the beatdown was fucking brilliant. The way that last punch was framed, the violence and intensity of it and we get "hit" with it by the smash cut to black. Loved it.

This was the episode, much like this week's Fringe, the set me as a believer in the show for the rest of the season. Jax may not be the most compelling of leads, but he's fine and the supporting cast MORE than makes up for any perceived lack. And I laughed so damn hard at, "Too soon for that joke?" than should be allowed. Pearlman nailed the delivery. Karnes is doing a great job of not being Dutch. It's a great combination of different clothes, different hair, different body movements...he sells the creepy, smarmy prickbastardness that he is.
post #138 of 718
According to previews, Tommy Flanagan is back next week.

I wish this thread got more responses. Stop watching Knight Rider and Terminator, people.
post #139 of 718
2 weeks without Flannagan was odd, but I didn't worry too much since his name was still in the opening credits. Plus, we got William Lucking back this week so why would I ever complain?
post #140 of 718
I think it actually fits that guys drop in and out of the story. Normally that would piss me off, but I like to imagine they're off tending to SAMCRO business in other parts of Cali.

I wanted to taste some of that SAMCRO chili.
post #141 of 718
I wanted to have Mark Boone Junior dress me up like Elvis.

And now that I think about it, those kids were strangely enthusiastic at the prospect of dressing up like Elvis.
post #142 of 718
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And now that I think about it, those kids were strangely enthusiastic at the prospect of dressing up like Elvis.
Yea, that struck me as slightly odd too. But, it is California.

And I'm always kind of mad to see shows like Terminator generating more discussion than The Shield or SOA, but I guess that's just the way it is.
post #143 of 718
Well, looks like the audience is growing some:

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So I'm neck deep in writing the last two scripts and the last thing I should be doing is updating my fucking blog... or playing Crysis Warhead or Gears of War or Rainbow 6 Vegas II. But I just got off the phone with FX and I'm happy to report that our ratings went up again this week. "Giving Back" matched the premier number in the 18-49. And our Sunday and Tuesday night repeats of "Patch Over" were both up. Sons of Anarchy continues to attract new viewers and more importantly, it's keeping the ones we have.

Look, in the general scheme of things, 1.5 is not a huge number. Network shows do 10's and higher. But in cable it's a respectable number and the truly phenomenal thing is the fact that not only aren't our numbers dropping off, they're actually improving. In this gluttonous landscape of scripted TV, that shit isn't supposed to happen.
http://sutterink.blogspot.com/

I really hope this trend continues. This has quickly become must watch TV for me.
post #144 of 718
Sweet news. I'm fine with The Shield saying goodbye, but I'm hoping Sons has a future beyond this season to help cushion the blow.
post #145 of 718
I wonder if their keeping track of how many people are watching the show on sites like HULU. I think that's one of the main reasons the show is gaining new fans, because people can catch up and start watching anytime with no hassle. Glad to hear it, though. Really hoping the show gets a 2nd season.
post #146 of 718
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Sweet news. I'm fine with The Shield saying goodbye, but I'm hoping Sons has a future beyond this season to help cushion the blow.
I'm with you on that. I hope that Karnes sets the stage for more Shield vets to transition over to new roles on Sons too.
post #147 of 718
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I'm with you on that. I hope that Karnes sets the stage for more Shield vets to transition over to new roles on Sons too.
Yes, although it would be cool for some Shield characters to cross over, later on.

But I haven't started watching season 7, so I don't know who makes it. Could see Shane in Charming.
post #148 of 718
Please no crossover characters. You've already got crossover actors, I don't want this show turning into FX's Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.
post #149 of 718
If it's done well, and rarely, I could see it working.
post #150 of 718
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I have no problem with Hunnam's accent even though it sounds like he went to the Ewan MacGregor in Black Hawk Down's School of American Accents.
That's a great way to put it - his accent is kinda flat.
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