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post #51 of 700
9/7/08 at 4:09pm
Thought it was pretty good. I agree that JAckson is to much of a pretty boy to look like a bad-ass biker. The one-niner reference gave me some glee as a fan of The Shield!

And for the record, Jackson may very well be a mole or undercover cop. All signs seem to pointing in that direction.
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post #52 of 700
9/7/08 at 5:15pm
What signs, other than him being kind of a pussy for a bad-ass biker?

He knew that they were constantly moving guns, yet there wasn't any police presence about that.

I don't think he's a mole or undercover cop, unless they're after something huge.
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post #53 of 700
9/7/08 at 5:17pm
No way. I didn't get that impression from the character at all.

Maybe Jay Karnes flips him later in the season though. I can kinda see that happening.
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post #54 of 700
9/7/08 at 5:29pm
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And for the record, Jackson may very well be a mole or undercover cop. All signs seem to pointing in that direction.
No he's not. He's being set up as wanting to take SOA in his fathers origional direction.

Perlman and Segal killed Jacksons father/had him killed.
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post #55 of 700
9/7/08 at 5:52pm
If they're telegraphing anybody to be talking to the cops, and I hope they won't take the easy route, it's Opie the bearded dude who just did a stretch for the gang.

I really don't think that guy wants to go back to jail.
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post #56 of 700
9/7/08 at 8:28pm
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No he's not. He's being set up as wanting to take SOA in his fathers origional direction.

Perlman and Segal killed Jacksons father/had him killed.
Definitely. I definitely see the Hamlet connections being played up a lot throughout the series.
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post #57 of 700
9/7/08 at 11:17pm
Possibly. OR, it could all be a huge red-herring on the part of the writers.
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post #58 of 700
9/7/08 at 11:30pm
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Possibly. OR, it could all be a huge red-herring on the part of the writers.
What could? The Hamlet connections?
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post #59 of 700
9/7/08 at 11:39pm
Okay, where in the pilot is it indicated that he's a mole or undercover cop?

As for the whole Hamlet thing, Sutter's been pretty upfront about that being laid on top.
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post #60 of 700
9/8/08 at 3:00am
Meh, this fall season is starting off as meekly as last year's. Any chance we've already reached the tipping point? Is television about to go back down the shitter again? Anything good is seemingly off the air, or about to be, with few shows seemingly interested in picking up the slack.
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post #61 of 700
9/8/08 at 9:18am
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Originally Posted by MoNkaholic View Post
Meh, this fall season is starting off as meekly as last year's. Any chance we've already reached the tipping point? Is television about to go back down the shitter again? Anything good is seemingly off the air, or about to be, with few shows seemingly interested in picking up the slack.
It'll suck for a year or so until the creators of the last great round of shows start their new projects.

But there's still some good stuff out there, not to mention a lot of shows haven't even premiered this season yet.
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post #62 of 700
9/8/08 at 9:53am
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Originally Posted by MoNkaholic View Post
Meh, this fall season is starting off as meekly as last year's. Any chance we've already reached the tipping point? Is television about to go back down the shitter again? Anything good is seemingly off the air, or about to be, with few shows seemingly interested in picking up the slack.
Um, it's kinda early to say such things, don't you think?
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post #63 of 700
9/10/08 at 10:11am
Caught the repeat last night after The Shield, and this really is a good show. My only complaint is Charlie Hunnam just doesn't fit the roll. There is almost zero attempt to cover his accent, and he is just way too baby faced...that said, I definitely bought him when he beat the hell out of the dealer with the pool stick.
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post #64 of 700
9/10/08 at 10:13am
He was pretty bad ass in Green Street Hooligans. But the looked worked because he looks British and he didn't have to hide the accent.

It's weird with the semi beard and the long hair. And that crappy accent!
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post #65 of 700
9/10/08 at 10:17am
Gomez, The Black Keys --- I like the music I hear. I haven't actually watched the show yet though.
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post #66 of 700
9/10/08 at 10:48am
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He was pretty bad ass in Green Street Hooligans. But the looked worked because he looks British and he didn't have to hide the accent.

It's weird with the semi beard and the long hair. And that crappy accent!
He is indeed a total badass in Green Street, by far the best thing in that movie. It definitely worked there because of the setting, and I think the short hair helped him look more badass. He just doesn't pull off the biker look with the pansy goatee at all.
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post #67 of 700
9/10/08 at 10:54am
Agreed that the Tom Cruise beard isn't working for him, but I can't remember the accent bothering me at all during the pilot.
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post #68 of 700
9/10/08 at 1:02pm
Don't you think part of the point is that he doesn't look traditional biker? That's the very nature of the character, as least it would seem that way from the pilot. It's the conflict inside him, he doesn't quite fit into this world, but he's not bad at it either, hence the temper and being adept at beatdowns.
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post #69 of 700
9/10/08 at 1:08pm
He looks exactly like the type of guy you'd underestimate and consider looking a bit like a tramp, and who'd then go and stab you in the balls with a pool cue.
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post #70 of 700
9/10/08 at 4:40pm
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Don't you think part of the point is that he doesn't look traditional biker? That's the very nature of the character, as least it would seem that way from the pilot. It's the conflict inside him, he doesn't quite fit into this world, but he's not bad at it either, hence the temper and being adept at beatdowns.
I think this is exactly right. We see in the pilot his dad never intended to create a bad ass criminal biker group. We also see that the mom thinks the kid is soft, and wants to ensure thd kid is groomed properly to take over. You could easily argue that the only reason he has the place he has is because of who is dad is, and who his mom is with. He's supopose to stand out, he didn't get to where he is by deed alone. He still has the potential to do something else with his life, most of the other's don't, or wouldn't.
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post #71 of 700
9/10/08 at 5:47pm
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He is indeed a total badass in Green Street, by far the best thing in that movie. It definitely worked there because of the setting, and I think the short hair helped him look more badass. He just doesn't pull off the biker look with the pansy goatee at all.
See I while I loved him on Undeclared, I thought his performance in Green Street Hooligans was pretty bad, but I blame the director for that more than him.
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post #72 of 700
9/11/08 at 12:37am
Pretty good tonight. Loving Kim Coates character.
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post #73 of 700
9/11/08 at 12:45am
Gotta love the scene in the convenient store.
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post #74 of 700
9/11/08 at 12:50am
Yeah, that was kind of nuts.

There's your Wincott, Molt. Was he a regular flavor Mafioso?

"My Martha Stewart's wearing thin."

"Jesus. Smells like old socks and pussy in here."

Giving Katey some great lines. She's delivering the goods.
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post #75 of 700
9/11/08 at 2:40am
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There's your Wincott, Molt. Was he a regular flavor Mafioso?
Was hoping for a little more Wincott but I'll take what I can get. Hopefully the gang will do more business with the Italians in the future and he'll get more face time.

I thought for sure the random chick in the convenience store was gonna end up dead. Did not see that ax coming. Quite nutty.
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post #76 of 700
9/11/08 at 9:10am
Great episode, but the accent on Hunnam is killing me. Convenience store was definitely great. Can't get enough axes to the head!
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post #77 of 700
9/11/08 at 11:34am
Drea De Matteo not being dead is a bit of a cheat.
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post #78 of 700
9/11/08 at 11:03pm
We got to admit that the cast is pretty awesome. But yeah, the fucking accent is killing me.
It's decent so far. Enough to warrant a couple of more episodes. I hope it picks up though.

Also, anyone else thinks the Bikes suck? For a show about a biker gang, they should be much more bad ass.
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post #79 of 700
9/11/08 at 11:09pm
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Also, anyone else thinks the Bikes suck? For a show about a biker gang, they should be much more bad ass.
Agreed, not that I'm a big biker or anything, but the bikes don't really stand out in terms of artwork. But maybe that's the point. They posted an article on the various bikes of the characters on the SOA Blog

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Almost all MC’s insist on one thing – that the bikes be American made. And that can only mean — Harley-Davidson. For our production, we wanted to be unquestionably authentic. We modeled our bikes after those used by real MC’s. We picked Harley-Davidson Dynas, which the Harley-Davidson website describes as “a pure riders motorcycle.” Known for being fast, they are essentially the jet fighters of bikes. Complete destroyers. In order for SOA to be as badass as we depict them, it had to be Dynas.
Along with modifying the bikes to meet club standards, a club member’s bike also needs to reflect his individual style. Our characters’ bikes have been specifically designed to reflect their personalities, interests, and general personas
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post #80 of 700
9/11/08 at 11:37pm
And i wish they'd show that. Focus a little bit on each of the guys and the bikes. I guess we'll see.
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post #81 of 700
9/11/08 at 11:40pm
I don't know why everyone get's on Hunnam not looking the role, he looks like a lot of younger bikers I have meet, expect maybe the lack of scares.
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post #82 of 700
9/12/08 at 12:22am
I think my hearing is going because I don't understand the hate about Hunham's accent. Dug the hell outta the second episode. Coates is one sick bastard.
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post #83 of 700
9/12/08 at 1:11am
Apparently Hunnam is just not good with accents, I kept on reading how his accent in Green Street Hooligans sucked. But I think it's alright on Sons of Anarchy, it could be better but it does bug me too much.
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post #84 of 700
9/12/08 at 1:15am
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... I'm still not quite sold on these guys being total badasses. There were some shots when they're all together in which they look like a bunch of overweight old men.
We just had 100,000+ Harley riders in town, that's sorta the look "rebel bikers" have.
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post #85 of 700
9/13/08 at 3:58pm
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Drea De Matteo not being dead is a bit of a cheat.
Would have made Gemma one bad ass character. Instead they are just gonna have her talk tough to the doc.

They should have just made a series with Kim Coates as the lead. He could easily step up to the big time. I try and stay till Dutch gets here but it's gonna be a struggle.
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post #86 of 700
9/13/08 at 4:37pm
Gah. Why is the second episode not on Hulu?
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post #87 of 700
9/14/08 at 11:52pm
I'm liking this show. The deputy chief's vendetta against SOA is going to be interesting to see.

If I learned anything from this past episode: Don't cut off someone while driving down a stretch of road!! You'll end up with an axe in the back of your dome.
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post #88 of 700
9/15/08 at 12:04am
To compare and contrast the cast with the real deal, check out this news report about a vigil held today in my old hometown of Daly City, CA for a murdered Hell's Angels leader:

http://cbs5.com/video/?id=39231@kpix.dayport.com

It was at the same mortuary where we had the memorial service for my nana.

Dude who was murdered doesn't look much like Charlie Hunnam, maybe a little like Mark Boone Junior if Junior had short hair.
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post #89 of 700
9/15/08 at 11:10am
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If I learned anything from this past episode: Don't cut off someone while driving down a stretch of road!!
This scene from Lost Highway is a good reminder not to be an asshole while you're driving, too.

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Gah. Why is the second episode not on Hulu?
I'd recommend just torrenting it if possible.
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post #90 of 700
9/15/08 at 11:32am
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This scene from Lost Highway is a good reminder not to be an asshole while you're driving, too.



I'd recommend just torrenting it if possible.
That's awesome! I can't believe I've never watched that movie before.
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post #91 of 700
9/15/08 at 11:34am
Whole movie is up on the site. Yea, it's one of my favorite Lynch films.
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post #92 of 700
9/18/08 at 12:06am
I think that was the first great episode of this series. Totally on board with what's happening now, digging the characters, and here comes Karnes! Looking forward to next weeks episode.
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post #93 of 700
9/18/08 at 12:32am
Nothing beats an old fashioned biker-on-carny beatdown. Except maybe an old fashioned kiddie-rapist castration.
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post #94 of 700
9/18/08 at 3:17am
It was nice seeing Jay Karnes at end.
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post #95 of 700
9/18/08 at 10:25am
My only complaint was the way they shoehorned in the personal connection between Hot Doc and Karnes. But I'm pretty happy so far with the way the writers are handling the show, so I'm sure I'll get over it.

Nice gruesome sound effects during the whole castration bit.

Love the 'Slightly retarded baby. Please Adopt' sign they fucking stapled to that dumbass.
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post #96 of 700
9/19/08 at 9:23pm
Really liked this episode too. And i loved Karnes. Dig the new look.

Hope he sticks around. Coates is great in this. Though i can't stand Seagal much.
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post #97 of 700
9/20/08 at 11:49am
I stumbled onto reading about this series. It looks intresting and with Ron Perlman starring i'm definately intrested. May watch the pilot, see how it goes.
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post #98 of 700
9/21/08 at 1:34pm
So Dutch appears to be stalking the hot Doc. I think its going to really interesting to see Jay Karnes in this role because the character's personality looks to be so different from Dutch-boy.

The castration scene was brutal. I'm starting to wonder how Jackson's conscience is going to effect his relationship with the rest of the SOA especially Clay and his mom.
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post #99 of 700
9/21/08 at 3:55pm
Ok, I'm on board for the full season now. And I guess it's because English isn't my native language but I don't see what's wrong with Hunnam's accent.
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post #100 of 700
9/21/08 at 7:20pm
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Ok, I'm on board for the full season now. And I guess it's because English isn't my native language but I don't see what's wrong with Hunnam's accent.
I have no problem with Hunnam's accent even though it sounds like he went to the Ewan MacGregor in Black Hawk Down's School of American Accents.
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