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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13067.html

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According to the St. Paul Joint Information Center, the liquid was shown to be diluted bleach and salt.

About 1 p.m., a rock was thrown through the windshield of a delegate bus carrying Alabama delegates to the Xcel center. It penetrated the windshield, and shattered glass on the bus driver, cutting him and sending glass on several delegates. One of those showered with glass was retired Alabama Supreme Court Justice Terry Butts.

“They were dressed all in black, black pajamas, kind of a black hat and mask on, except for their eyes — a Ninja look,” Butts said.
He said about 30 protesters swarmed the bus. The area was supposed to be secured, he said, “but this was a breech in security, obviously.”

Police intercepted the protesters, and the protesters swarmed the police. At that point, one of the protesters threw a very large rock, according to Butts.

“I happened to be sitting in the front seat right behind the bus driver, and it literally hit eye level between the bus driver and myself,” he said.

Another Alabama delegate, Randy McKinney, was also on the bus. He attributed the attack to “a couple dozen Ninja-wannabes, and I didn't see any taxpayers in the group.”
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Breech is how you don't want your baby coming out. It may have been a breach in security. And John Goodman called it - it's terrible what passes for a ninja these days. Dick Cheney shits better ninjas than this.
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They probably looked like these guys ...



I wonder what these 2 morons are protesting in the first place.
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Some of the ninjas confront members of the Westboro Baptist Church, finally the anarchist groups do something useful.

Check out the video at 1:25, lol!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDDvIOCCMOg
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I'm ordinarily very anti-cop, but it would delight me to no end to see the ones standing around in that video just say "fuck this" and start clubbing the shit out of these jackasses like they were hippies in a drum circle blocking traffic.
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Those people aren't Americans. They spit in the face of everything we hold dear. They should be shipped to Antarctica.

They'd probably hate it there too... Fucking gay ass penguins.
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Originally Posted by Muharulz View Post
Those people aren't Americans. They spit in the face of everything we hold dear. They should be shipped to Antarctica.
Ironic post of the day!

But really, sometimes I just feel like dressing up all in black, bringin' out the ole' baseball bat, and BUSTING THE SHIT OUT OF SOME COP CAR WINDSHIELDS! Everyone's entitled to some fun every once in a while. This is America, man!
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I expect to see scenes from this in social unrest/society deteriorates news motages in upcoming disaster films.

About time too, I'm getting tired of all that old Euro anti-nuke riot footage, Watts burning and the ever useful white helmeted cops marching down the street vid bites.
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When I was active in the protest scene I hated the Black Bloc, but now I kind of love them. Peaceful marching six miles from the convention center is bullshit in the highest. Any event that has free speech zones deserves violence.
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It's not ironic. Their speech hurts a lot of people, especially the people who watch these thugs picket their loved ones' funerals. It's pathetic.


I decided to check out their website to find out their picket schedule.
Look what they have written down for their trip to Baltimore MD.

Federal Courthouse in Baltimore Hopkins Place & We. Pratt St. God continues to kick Baltimore's bottom and we know that you really think that because Micheal Fred Phelps is from your goofy city that God is blessing you. Get real! All he is good for is to keep the name "Phelps" right before your eyes, so you are constantly reminded of the preaching of Westboro Baptist Church. Aside from that, what a miserable existance this little fornicator must have - and especially because you each one have lied to him daily. So, this will be a reminder to you each one that God Hates Baltimore, Thank God for Dead Soldiers, America Is Doomed, The Siege Is Here. All and every Baltimoron is going to be held accountable for the crimes committed against this little group of God's people. Check it out now: Zec 2:8 For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye. AND 2Ch 32:8 With him is an arm of flesh; but with us is the LORD our God to help us, and to fight our battles. And the people rested themselves upon the words of Hezekiah king of Judah. Jer 21:5 And I myself will fight against you with an outstretched hand and with a strong arm, even in anger, and in fury, and in great wrath. So, AGAIN(!), you who are not a party to the vast majority of Baltimoron's sins - GET THE HECK OUTTA THAT PLACE, LIKE YESTERDAY! Here's the Bible for that concept: La 4:15 They cried unto them, Depart ye; it is unclean; depart, depart, touch not: when they fled away and wandered, they said among the heathen, They shall no more sojourn there. 2Co 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, Mt 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Lu 3:7 Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Of course God will not warn the bad guys to flee, but we are warning any/all of those who are of God to FLEE, FLEE! Re 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. AMEN!


On George Carlin's Mark Twain Award.

Kennedy Center - George Carlin's Mark Twain Award 2700 F St NW George Carlin is in HELL! All who watched that movie "Prince Of Tides" knows that George played a smelly, nasty, mincing faggot on that movie! Please feel free to visit our video news segment on this wonderful event of his death and splash dive in hell at www.signmovies.net. Since they insisted on hiding his filthy rotten corpse, we will be at this event to tell you all that if you follow George Carlin's manner of life - you will reside with George Carlin in everlasting fire and torment. That way when you refuse to heed this warning and you in fact land in hell and begin to curse George Carlin and complain that he gave you a poor example George Carlin can tell you "Shut the hell up, you wanted me to lie to you! Furthermore, you knew the truth because Westboro Baptist Church members were at that stupid awards ceremony and TOLD YOU THE TRUTH - so GET OUTTA MY FACE ABOUT IT!"
post #11 of 51
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Originally Posted by devincf View Post
When I was active in the protest scene I hated the Black Bloc, but now I kind of love them. Peaceful marching six miles from the convention center is bullshit in the highest. Any event that has free speech zones deserves violence.
Fucking truth. America IS a free speech zone, or so I learned in school.
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I think spitting on people, and destroying police cars for the heck of it (and with no clear message) is very counter productive.
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
I think spitting on people, and destroying police cars for the heck of it (and with no clear message) is very counter productive.
You can forget a job at Rockstar.
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Originally Posted by devincf View Post
When I was active in the protest scene I hated the Black Bloc, but now I kind of love them. Peaceful marching six miles from the convention center is bullshit in the highest. Any event that has free speech zones deserves violence.
I can´t really comment on the situation at the convention center. Free Speech zone sure sound despicable. But the Black bloc is posing a big problem for the left in general in my eyes. It was evident during the G8 summit last year and numerous demonstrations over here in recent month that these guys are basicly Hooligans disguised under the cloak of political activists. It surely vibes wrong if you are protesting for distinct left positions while looting stores of middle class businessmen and burn cars of non-involved citizens.

It is sad to see a demonstration of more than hundred thousand people getting hijacked by a few dozens of these guys and let them set the narrative of the news rather than the message of the demonstration.
post #15 of 51
Yea, that's pretty fucked up (the Baltimore thing, anyway). But America has always had its protest groups that push the limits of free speech, and always will. I just wish they had someone proofread their statements.

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Thank God for Dead Soldiers
What the hell are they talking about, crack vials?
post #16 of 51
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Yea, that's pretty fucked up (the Baltimore thing, anyway). But America has always had its protest groups that push the limits of free speech, and always will. I just wish they had someone proofread their statements.



What the hell are they talking about, crack vials?
Yeah, it's really fucked up. I guess my problem is that free speech only goes so far. They hold onto that dearly (Shirley Phelps is an accomplished 1st Amendment lawyer), and I think that they end up being hypocrites by grasping onto that ideal but attack people for their freedoms under the 1st Amendment.

Also, protesting a political convention may be one thing, but protesting a funeral for one of our soldiers who died in Iraq or someone killed by a hate crime is deplorable and does not belong in our society.
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Yeah, this is the important story, not the one where cops arrest journalists and intimidate peaceful protesters for no discernible reason... right? Freedom of assembly my ass.
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Originally Posted by Muharulz View Post
Yeah, it's really fucked up. I guess my problem is that free speech only goes so far. They hold onto that dearly (Shirley Phelps is an accomplished 1st Amendment lawyer), and I think that they end up being hypocrites by grasping onto that ideal but attack people for their freedoms under the 1st Amendment.

Also, protesting a political convention may be one thing, but protesting a funeral for one of our soldiers who died in Iraq or someone killed by a hate crime is deplorable and does not belong in our society.
You do realize that the black bloc/communist ninjas in the story that Capitan initially posted and the Westboro/godhatesfags people are not part of the same organization, right?
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Originally Posted by Jan View Post
I can´t really comment on the situation at the convention center. Free Speech zone sure sound despicable. But the Black bloc is posing a big problem for the left in general in my eyes. It was evident during the G8 summit last year and numerous demonstrations over here in recent month that these guys are basicly Hooligans disguised under the cloak of political activists. It surely vibes wrong if you are protesting for distinct left positions while looting stores of middle class businessmen and burn cars of non-involved citizens.

It is sad to see a demonstration of more than hundred thousand people getting hijacked by a few dozens of these guys and let them set the narrative of the news rather than the message of the demonstration.
Demonstrations are from the past. Nobody cares anymore if a hundred thousand people take to the streets and behaves. It runs fifth on the nightly news.

The Black Bloc creates a scenario where the authorities overreact,though. It's the exact same scenario that MLK and the civil rights protesters created, just with different means. The images of helmeted riot police beating American citizens do not go down well in this country, no matter how many Starbucks windows they broke. Deep down everybody realizes that this is how the authorities deal with situations - reactionarily and with violence.
post #20 of 51
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The Black Bloc creates a situation that makes it easy for the media and the country to dismiss any valid points any of the protest groups could have.

Then again you do have a point that by their actions they get more coverage and force those images, I just don't know if that really positive at all.
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You do realize that the black bloc/communist ninjas in the story that Capitan initially posted and the Westboro/godhatesfags people are not part of the same organization, right?
Umm yeah, I know that. I was talking about the Westboro Church people, not the black bloc.
post #22 of 51
Of course it is. The subtext is American police beating American citizens. We HATE that.

Also, the Black Bloc serves as a way to get excited young people into the movement. They're a lot more fun than marching with the old hippies in Bread & Puppets, that's for sure. And also, their provocation of the police means the police assault peaceful protesters, many of whom will in turn become radicalized.

They're not hurting people, and that, I think is the key. The cops are the ones hurting people.
post #23 of 51
I agree insofar as you are right about demonstrations in sheer number not making the news.

Hence I admire the numerous means of protesters to disrupt the conduct of a meeting by means of civil obstruction. Blocking streets, hijack houses etc. make the news, albeit peacefully. And more often than not this is precisely the moment the state overreacts and is demasked. The death of Carlo Giuliani in Genua during the G8 summit is clear evidence for this

But I was referring to the habit of not attacking Starbucks and other symbols of globalization but basicly normal citizens. This is what hurts the narrative and gives the impression of a strong state protecting rightfully a threat for citizens. Therefore this kind of political violence hurts the cause. Adding to that is the fact that quite a few people just use the cloak of a demonstration to just be violent and behave like a hooligan in the midst of the Black Bloc.

ETA: Cap said a few of my points in way better English though.
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They're not hurting people, and that, I think is the key. The cops are the ones hurting people.
http://wcbstv.com/topstories/gop.con....2.807904.html

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Members of the Connecticut delegation said they were attacked by protesters when they got off their bus near the Xcel Center, KMSP-TV reported.

Former U.S. Rep. Rob Simmons, one of the delegates, told the station and The Hartford Courant that a group of protesters tried to rip the credentials off their necks and sprayed them with a substance that burned their eyes and stained their clothes.

Simmons, state Republican party chairman Chris Healy and the other Connecticut delegates were checked by a hazardous materials team afterward.

Stratford delegate Fred Biebel, 83, also was checked by paramedics when he had trouble breathing after a protester snatched his credentials from his neck.

Biebel, a delegate at every GOP convention since 1956, told The Hartford Courant it was not his scariest moment at a convention.

"It compared a little bit, not at as bad, to 1968," Biebel said, referring to the year in which protesters smashed the delegates' bus windows with rocks.
post #25 of 51
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Originally Posted by devincf View Post
Demonstrations are from the past. Nobody cares anymore if a hundred thousand people take to the streets and behaves. It runs fifth on the nightly news.

The Black Bloc creates a scenario where the authorities overreact,though. It's the exact same scenario that MLK and the civil rights protesters created, just with different means. The images of helmeted riot police beating American citizens do not go down well in this country, no matter how many Starbucks windows they broke. Deep down everybody realizes that this is how the authorities deal with situations - reactionarily and with violence.
The means makes all the difference though, at least in popular perception. Peace marcher/sit-in participant beat-down elicits sympathy. Belligerent vandal beat-down gets applause.

Speaking as a resident of the Twin Cities, there's a large percentage of the local population who could care less about the vaguely-defined "protestors" and their assorted goals or means. Mostly there's just resentment that our downtown is being trashed in order to play fascists versus revolutionaries. Whatever your political leanings or ideals, when it's your neighborhood business getting the windows broken out, you tend to resent the whole scene.
post #26 of 51
Take it up with the GOP.
post #27 of 51
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They're not hurting people, and that, I think is the key. The cops are the ones hurting people.
Oh come on. So its Ok to destroy private and public property to make a point? Thats just bullshit. If someone destroys a police car or gets their jollies over breaking windows they deserve a steel toed boot to the mouth. Besides, these "protestors" get so much more joy out of breaking shit that isn't theirs rather than making a point.
post #28 of 51
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Demonstrations are from the past. Nobody cares anymore if a hundred thousand people take to the streets and behaves. It runs fifth on the nightly news.

The Black Bloc creates a scenario where the authorities overreact,though. It's the exact same scenario that MLK and the civil rights protesters created, just with different means. The images of helmeted riot police beating American citizens do not go down well in this country, no matter how many Starbucks windows they broke. Deep down everybody realizes that this is how the authorities deal with situations - reactionarily and with violence.
You're grossly underestimating the number of people saying "Fucking idiots got what they deserved." when seeing these dopes getting pepper sprayed and knocked around.

These guys stand for nothing. They're the real life equivalent of...well, you, really. Just trolling and then hoping someone pays attention when the shit hits the fan.
post #29 of 51
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http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news...onvention.html
Kidnapping, sabotage was part of anarchists’ plan to disrupt conventionAffidavit says group’s strategy included Molotov cocktails, urine-filled sprayers

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Almost a year to the day before the Republican National Convention began, members of a self-described anarchist group gathered to talk about ways to disrupt it, including kidnapping delegates, sabotaging air vents at the Xcel Energy Center, blocking bridges and “capturing federal buildings” in Minneapolis and St. Paul.


Unbeknownst to the group, the RNC Welcoming Committee, two police informants and an undercover investigator had infiltrated their ranks, according to an affidavit and search warrant application filed Tuesday. The informants and investigator accessed group e-mails, attended meetings, talked strategies with members and participated in camps and workshops.
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post #30 of 51
I'm all for protesting, but mess with Nina's Coffee and your out-of-town heathen ass - whatever your party - deserves a pummeling.
post #31 of 51
Look, we have this same dumb argument every time there's a protest like this, and every time the left doesn't collapse under the weight of the black bloc.

And yes, destroying property is a valid form of protest. Unless you think the Boston Tea Party conspirators should have had a steel toe boot up their asses.
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http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news...onvention.html
Kidnapping, sabotage was part of anarchists’ plan to disrupt conventionAffidavit says group’s strategy included Molotov cocktails, urine-filled sprayers
Blah blah blah. Same shit the CoIntelPro fuckers claimed about Chicago 68, all of it untrue.
post #33 of 51
I think the whole protesting debate depends on what you think of the cause people are protesting.

I would find the protests of the Civil Rights Movement to be very legitimate and I would have supported them if I was alive during that time.

Communist, socialist, anarchist (the irony of communist-anarchist ninjas is laughable), whatever ninjas? Gay hating retards? Not so much.
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I think the whole protesting debate depends on what you think of the cause people are protesting.

Communist, socialist, anarchist (the irony of communist-anarchist ninjas is laughable), whatever ninjas? Gay hating retards? Not so much.
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe they should have dressed as Batmans. Or even better, Ledger Joker's.

And where are your sympathies on retard hating gays?
post #35 of 51
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And yes, destroying property is a valid form of protest. Unless you think the Boston Tea Party conspirators should have had a steel toe boot up their asses.
The poor guy who built his little Italian restaurant over the last twenty years with all his life savings in Rostock and has to see it burn to the ground because some retards could not attack the local bank might disagree with that.
post #36 of 51
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I guess you could make an argument against destroying police cars if you think you live in a dictatorship or oppressive government (I don't agree), but just smashing local businesses for no reason at all doesn't make much any sense.

We used to be shot at, and we never imagined smashing windows of local stores, it didn't make any sense.
post #37 of 51
Wah wah wah. People are dying in Iraq but a Starbucks window got broken. Which one is bringing out your online outrage?
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And yes, destroying property is a valid form of protest. Unless you think the Boston Tea Party conspirators should have had a steel toe boot up their asses.
Bad example. The destruction of property in the Boston Tea Party was directly related to a specific grievance - the taxation of imported goods without equitable representation. It wasn't destruction for the sake of destruction or destruction for the sake of spectacle.
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Unless you think the Boston Tea Party conspirators should have had a steel toe boot up their asses.
As a matter of fact, yes, they should have. I'm grateful for what they did, don't get me wrong. But I do think that the owners of that Tea had a right to kick their asses. It goes back to the whole freedom of speech issue. You can say whatever you want but be prepared for the consequences. Same issue with destroying property. You can go ahead and break the windows in a cop car but be prepared for the reaction of the cop who beats you down as a result.
post #40 of 51
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This from a guy who gets upset if people install adblock to prevent getting infected with a virus.

So in this case, I guess devin wouldn't mind chud.com being defaced by anarchists that have no clear or well defined message to get out. Yeah right.
post #41 of 51
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The poor guy who built his little Italian restaurant over the last twenty years with all his life savings in Rostock and has to see it burn to the ground because some retards could not attack the local bank might disagree with that.
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Wah wah wah. People are dying in Iraq but a Starbucks window got broken. Which one is bringing out your online outrage?
Not the same and rather misleading argument.
post #42 of 51
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On NBC news now, Brokaw was talking about that incident and said "anarchist cell".

That's a new one ...
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Not the same and rather misleading argument.
It was a totally nonsesical argument. He excels at that. If he can't raise a good point, he makes one up, relevance be damned.
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Yes, you all just write your congressman and I'm sure he'll get in touch with your unelected president to end his illegal war...
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Yes, you all just write your congressman and I'm sure he'll get in touch with your unelected president to end his illegal war...
Acting like an idiot in the street smashing stuff while 95% of the populace looks at you like you're retarded iis going to accomplish about as much, so that point is ridiculous.

These people aren't revolutionaries, they're morons.
post #46 of 51
And a percentage of those people looking at the anarchists like they're retarded will also have themselves kicked around by the police.

Why doesn't it seem odd that the police are around even the most calm, orderly assemblies?
post #47 of 51
The RNC Welcoming Committee, the one that got raided, its leaders are charged with terrorism under the Patriot Act:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTQXRI_IaEE
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The RNC Welcoming Committee, the one that got raided, its leaders are charged with terrorism under the Patriot Act:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTQXRI_IaEE
Meanwhile the rednecks who wanted to murder Barack Obama with a sniper rifle are nothing to worry our pretty little heads over.
post #49 of 51
This just shows a generation of people who have not seen "Do the Right Thing"
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The RNC Welcoming Committee, the one that got raided, its leaders are charged with terrorism under the Patriot Act:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTQXRI_IaEE
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Meanwhile the rednecks who wanted to murder Barack Obama with a sniper rifle are nothing to worry our pretty little heads over.
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This just shows a generation of people who have not seen "Do the Right Thing"
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