Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles Season 2 - Page 4

The writers may have left that opportunity open with "Did you kill her?" "Guess not." We saw Alison collapse (and we heard a crunch) after Cameron choked her, but she might not be out of the picture yet. I hate unjustified flashbacks.

Have you seen Jody? Have you seen Jody? Have you seen Jody? Anybody know a Jody? Where's Jody at? Jody, anyone? Have you seen Jody? Have you seen Jody? Jody? JODY? Yo home fry, you seen Jody? Have you seen Jody? JODY? Where da fuk is Judy at?

Your resistance leader, ladies and gentleman.

I'm still not liking the show. Last week's was decent, but thats it.

And yeah, the show will die quickly anyways.

This episode was not good. It is filler distracting us from the fact that the writers think the show will be canceled so they aren't even bothering to make sense (what little there was anyway) anymore.

There's no way Sarah would spend all day in a hospital. Derek apparently was taking a spa day. John's detective skills consist of very helpful strangers telling him exactly where to find Jody. And apparently Cameron can just turn her mission on and off at will.

She was playing Sudoku. Gotta be a machine.

You have the facts right as they were presented to us, but they make no sense in light of what we know previously:

-- At some point in the future Cameron saves Johns life
-- At some point in the future Cameron tortures Derek
-- Both seem to have been carried out by the Cameron that we know.

So if Allison Young was a real person and resistance fighter who had top clearance to John (as indicated by the whole bracelet subplot), I'm not sure how she could have saved John's life since she's dead (I refuse to believe she survived). It's possible Cameron could have saved John once she was turned, but when that happened is unclear. As someone mentioned, it seems as if she would be detected by the dogs once she got to John's compound (although in Derek's flashback there were turn Terminators all over the compound, so dogs got desensitized to the "good" robots). But if she was turned immediately, when did she have time to torture Derek? Although I admit it is highly likely that there were numerous Cameron models made, so it might not be that particular one.

In any case, too many question are put forward without having any of the previous one's explained. And the main plot of trying to stop Skynet from ever being built seems to have fallen off everyone's radar.

Well, don't bother thinking about it too much:

http://syfyportal.com/news425418.html

Hasta La vista, Sarah conner chronicles. Didn't think think it would be gone that quickly.

Ehh can't say im suprised. When this thing came back for it's second season I briefly thought about recording it but then said fuck it. Initially I enjoyed it but then I went back and watched the old Terminator movies. After that The Sarah Conner Chronicles just felt like a cheap imitation. Christ the Terminator doesn't even terminate people anymore.

She'll probably merge into the foot as some cheap homage.

Yeah the show really seems to have lost some direction, and its general kissassery seems to lost its appeal to the general public. Hopefully a PG-13 mcG film won't kill off the franchise. (T3 just put it on life support)

At least have them round off the show. It pisses me off that they even consider just shutting it down with no resolution. It's a big "FUCK YOU audience" and a huge waste of our time.

I'd rather have this than Prison Break. Sucky news.

This is Fox. Fan reaction doesn't mean anything.

Anyway, I can't see distraught fans sending truckloads of Turkish delight or barricading the Fox lot shouting 'We love Cameron' to save this show.

I actually see the main fault in Cameron. Shes a skinny hot lil model, the total opposite of Arnold. His massive, mono syllable style fit the role of a machine. Also terminators who don't terminate. Sorry they're really not a threat at times.

Then there is John, who finally started to take some responsibility, but spent all first season whining.

The main fault of this show is that it involves Terminators who don't terminate anyone. At least last season, there were a few cool death scenes involving Chrome Artie. This year we got some weird music montage in the first ep giving us the only killings so far and they did not involve any terminators. Boo! We're living in a time when violence is glorified on TV. Ramp up the carnage people!

What gets me is how the writers of the show can totally screw up what is a very simple formula to make the show work: deadly cyborg from the future keeps the future savior of the human race and his mom on the run.

How do they screw it up? Mildly annoying cyborgs from the future do nothing to hinder the future savior of the human race from settling down and making friends.

Honestly, how do you totally miss the point? Take a cue from similar "on the run" kinda shows like "The Fugitive" or "The Hulk" - have our heroes moving from town to town every episode to stay off the grid. Each episode they end up helping someone in order to keep the human aspect of the show and to show John what is worth saving. All the while, a massive hunk of flesh and metal is gunning for you.

Sure, that me be a worn-out TV show premise, but it would certainly work better than what they're airing now. I mean, I'm really trying to like the show, but with every episode I keep thinking to myself "Linda Hamilton/the real Sarah Connor would never do that."

This show looks like it belongs in the 90s on the Scifi channel. BSG is light years ahead in every department. And Shirley manson...WTF?

Sudoku you say? Well then, yes. Definitely a machine. Or even more emotionally disturbed than I dared dream.


I guess there's only one thing that can save the show now. Crossover with Smallville:

Spot on. This is exactly what the show should be.

That would be good.

And if I see another scene of Sarah Conner unpacking groceries I'll terminate someone myself.

No doubt. Prison Break is a virtual brain tumor.

What's hilarious is the idea that TERMINATOR is dragging down PRISON BREAK. If TERMINATOR is cancelled, the strike shifting its airing partner from 24 to PRISON BREAK will be the primary reason. It's like being dumped by the most popular guy/gal in school the night before the prom, and having to go with your hillbilly cousin instead.

Wow true words. Thats what I wanted.

Both formulas, 'base-of-operations' and 'on-the-road', are pretty tired. One of them was cheaper to produce. I guess 'John assembles the Resistance' is reserved for the Bale movie?

Okay, how does a group of fugitives have the means to buy everyone in the family a brand new Chrysler product to tool around in?

The Resistance planted stashes of money and weapons, as did Sarah presumably. It's been in play a long time it would seem, considering the bank vault time machine.

By all accounts, the show is on its last legs.

But still, tonight's episode was pretty good. It actually had Terminators in it.

Solid ep. The kid was pretty good, if a totally unconvincing gamer. Looking forward to the upcoming Glau-heavy installment.

Or vice versa. Only the people dumb enough to watch PRISON BREAK could say for sure...

I'm resigned to the fact that show won't likely make it to May, unless FOX gives it a shot on a different night. Most shows I like are cancelled quickly, so I'm used to just enjoying them while they're on.

Last night's episode was actually really good. Who'd have thought that the Wizard of Oz works well with Terminators?

I've been trying to keep up with this show but I missed the last two episodes. Thankfully they're on the DVR... I did manage to catch it last night and I thought it was a pretty solid effort all around. I hope the show gets to keep on keepin' on because it's actually pretty well put together and it turned out much better than I was expecting it to once it started. I don't want to keep getting into it though if Fox is just gonna blow it out of the water though. I hate how Fox handles some of its shows...

Did I miss something, how did Brian Austin Green's character and John end up in a military school?

I agree that this show is missing something. I think the concept [I]could[I]have worked but the its execution is failing miserably.

This show should not have Terminator in the title. Its really about Sarah and John trying to deal with the daily tread of an impending Holocaust that they know is coming and can't prevent.

And I'm seriously wondering if the forthcoming Bale Terminator movies will in anyway invoke TSCC? I mean is this show going to be considered canon or not?

It was just for this episode. The kid the Guest Terminator was after was enrolled there so they went undercover.

Did you watch the show? It was pretty explicitly shown how they ended up at the school.

The episode was okay. I hate that Sarah was neutered by babysitting some kid all episode, but it was nice to see John stand up for himself and show some promise as the future leader he would be.

I totally dig Derek's flashbacks. Every time they show them, I think why couldn't the show be about that. Of course, there's always the upcoming movies. I thought they were setting up Burrell as the guy who had his guts exploded, but it was pretty obvious he would die protecting John.

These terminators are a more advanced model than Arnold in the movies right? They are T-888's and Arnold was a T-800. Then why are they so much dumber? At least in the movies, the Sarah Connor's that were killed happened to be around the same age as the target Sarah. But in the show, the terminator kills an adult Burell (in his 40's) and goes after a kid Burell (age 10?). I mean, I'm happy the terminator actually wants to kill something this ep, but given that it recognized the target Burell at the school, it shouldn't have even gone after the other Burell's once it saw that they weren't the target. And then to top it off, it goes after the target Burell sans weapons. How exactly was it planning to kill Burrell? Sit on him until he cries "uncle"?

Also, I don't get why Manson's character needs Agent Ellis to acquire information. She's a goddamn robot. Plug into something and get the info. Or better yet, kill someone to get the info. What does she do all day in that stupid office?

Definitely not practice her acting skills. Yeesh.

Did She really have to wait until he miserably ended? And only then kill him.

I liked this ep. but I agree that somebody should get a refund for those evil 888 CPU.

The real reason Skynet nuked humanity it was pissed at Intel for selling it shitting CPUs.

Nice episode. Wish there were more like these. But the show is getting canceled anyways.

If the real Burrell exploded saving John Connor, it seems reasonable that Skynet wouldn't even know his age.

He knows what each Burrell looks like, not which one is the "right" one.

I thought he was armed, until he got shot in the head and hit by the claymore blast.

But I have to agree on Manson. I really dig her music, but she's not impressive here, and her storyline is taking too long to fit into the big picture.

I'm still trying to figure out what Manson's character entails? My guess is that she's trying to gather intel on Skynet to prevent it from built or control it herself.

Good point.

I really wouldn't wan't a Fugitive-like show where they save some family in each episode.

What I wanted was a show about John and Sarah assembling the future resistance. As the leaders they know they'll become, they should be traveling around finding the the most important resistance people based on Cameron's knowledge, and a big network of future resistance fighters should slowly be built up.

The terminators should do the same thing as they have a partial list to go by too, and often the two groups would meet on this same mission, but with different goals.

Actually it was kind of what they tried tonight. But it should all be about that. Then we'll get an increasing number of resistance fighters in the storyline and they could devote some time on their stories too.

The police/Feds would pick up signals that something is brewing and perhaps think it's a rising terror organisation, so they would be on the warpath too.

Instead we have a show where the people who know they are going to be the leaders eventually, are on the defensive all the time, when they should be aggressive and planning ahead.

I still like the show though.

I still like the show Glau sexiness aside. But basically the Terminator aren't able to kill a 8 years old Kyle Reese...And I agree with all your arguments, this should be all about gaining some advantage upon Skynet.

Well, the TURK storyline was about that - destroying the software that would become SKYNET. That trail has gone cold for them, but is bound to heat up whenever they collide w/ the Shirley Mansoninator (ratings permitting).

I'd like to see more focused direction too, but keep in mind that we're still only just past what would be the 1/2 way point of season 1, had the strike not intervened.

BTW, at the same time FOX was trying to cut PRISON BREAK from 22 episodes to 16, they were picking up 2 -additional- TERMINATOR episodes (I'd assume that makes 15).

I think the writing is on the wall. Limp both shows to a point where they can disappear w/o having to publically cancel them until summer.

Have they put Terminator on Fridays at 9 yet? That's when the writing will be on the wall.

FOX has picked up TERMINATOR for a full season of 22 episodes.

(yay)

I'm really happy they did. Now I hope they get their acts together and round it off properly, maybe in a way so they can "restart" if a season 3 is approved, with a new storyline.

Oooooooohhhhh. I don't know why the 'revelation' stunned me like it did (it makes perfect sense consider John's behavior), but that was a nice little shock.

What happened? Don't just leave me hanging like that.